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.25/.5 hand - Right or wrong move?

  • 25-06-2007 11:55pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭


    Hi,
    Looking for advice on this hand. Villian is 32/20/2. The reason i shoved was cause i thought he could have had a high pair with a spade.
    What do people think?
    Advice appreciated


    Seat 1: rosie77 ($27.11 in chips) DEALER
    Seat 3: HERO ($89.52 in chips)
    Seat 5: Panodil ($51.16 in chips)
    Seat 6: ruiker ($45.25 in chips)
    Seat 8: Vedica ($67.40 in chips)
    Seat 10: Skro57 ($27.04 in chips)
    HERO: Post SB $0.25
    Panodil: Post BB $0.50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HERO [HA DA]
    Dealt to Vedica [SK SQ]
    ruiker: Fold
    Vedica: Raise $2.00
    Skro57: Fold
    rosie77: Fold
    HERO: Raise $5.00
    Panodil: Fold
    Vedica: Call $3.25
    *** FLOP *** [S2 S7 S5]
    HERO: Bet $8.00
    Vedica: Raise $22.00
    HERO: Raise $76.27
    Vedica: Allin $40.15
    *** TURN *** [SJ]
    *** RIVER *** [HK]
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $154.42 Rake $3.00
    HERO: wins $22.12
    Vedica: wins $132.30


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lorax


    His pf raise and raise on the flop screams at least a high flush draw, or flush. Im folding here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭RedJoker


    Don't show your opponent's hand or the results when you post a hand, it may bias the analysis. If your question is about a particular street then leave out the streets afterwards, e.g. if you want to know how your play was up to the turn then you can leave out the river, again because it can taint the analysis you get.

    Preflop - I'd prefer to just call or fold here, playing an inflated pot OOP is not a good idea. If you want to 3 bet then 5 will keep the pot smaller but may reduce your fold equity. Making it bigger, about 6.50, has a better chance of taking the pot which is what you want here.

    Flop - 8 is fine. Fold to the re-raise, you're behind to everything in his range except maybe As9x, As8x, As6x, As4x and As3x. Even if he has an overpair with a spade like you suggested you are an underdog to win the hand, get rid of it. You may have some fold equity if he puts you on a higher pair than him with a spade but if you are reraising A10o I doubt you're playing very tight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    RedJoker wrote:
    Preflop - I'd prefer to just call or fold here, playing an inflated pot OOP is not a good idea. If you want to 3 bet then 5 will keep the pot smaller but may reduce your fold equity. Making it bigger, about 6.50, has a better chance of taking the pot which is what you want here.



    Fold aces?! :confused:

    Re-raising is a must, i am guessing you mis-read the HH.

    P.S how does a pf raise scream of a flush draw Lorax?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭RedJoker


    Fold aces?! :confused:

    Re-raising is a must, i am guessing you mis-read the HH.

    LOL sorry, misread the hh. Ignore my comments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭RedJoker


    Ok, another stab at this.

    Preflop - Reraise is fine, still may be a touch small.

    Flop - C-bet is fine. Push is grand too imo, this is a very draw heavy board and this guy seems fairly loose aggressive so he could be overplaying a number of overpairs, draws or combo draws. It would take a much more passive player doing something obv like min-raising to get me to fold here.

    How many hands are these stats over btw?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭BobSloane


    You should fold when re-raised on the flop and here is why in very approximate terms.
    His aggression factor is 2. He wants to play for all his stack here. You are either marginally ahead (he could have a hand like an overpair with a spade or a pair and nut flush draw giving him 11 outs-pair and 2nd nut flush draw would give him 14, or probable best case scenario he has the lone As giving him 9 outs) - or - you are drawing almost dead(he has a set) - or - you are drawing 99%dead, which it turns out you are.

    When he raises you on the flop you have to call $14 - plus he has another $40 behind. This is 108bbs and you don't want to put that much money in when your hand is so vulnerable.

    Also showing your opponents hand in the HH as RedJoker said makes it a little harder to stand in your shoes.

    btw I find 30/20 players to be very dangerous in general


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭breadmonkey


    I don't know how many hands you have on that Vedica guy but I have him as more like 23/18/2 over about 350 or so and he's one of the only players at this level that I try to avoid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭metafora


    hi, thanks for replies. i only had 50 or so hands on this guy so your stats are probably more accurate.

    Looking back on it, fold does seem the best option giving his probable range /outs. I was likely going to be an underdog especially as he isnt that agg. post flop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    folding is horrible, as is your 3 bet size


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭metafora


    valor, are you saying that the reraise all in after flop is ok?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    yes


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