9/11 and prophesy.

JimiTime

Just a question. Would you regard 9/11 as the biggest event/attrocity in recent history? I'm not talking about the worst, just the one that has the most global recognition. If so, has anyone come across anything reconsiling the event with biblical prophesy? Just curious to see whats out there. I've seen some stuff on the web, and its pretty poorly put together, but I'm wondering if anyone has come across any interesting points relating to it?

PDN

JimiTime wrote:

Just a question. Would you regard 9/11 as the biggest event/attrocity in recent history? I'm not talking about the worst, just the one that has the most global recognition. If so, has anyone come across anything reconsiling the event with biblical prophesy? Just curious to see whats out there. I've seen some stuff on the web, and its pretty poorly put together, but I'm wondering if anyone has come across any interesting points relating to it?

I guess it depends what you mean by 'recent'. I would think the holocaust has received much more worldwide recognition.

I don't see prophetic significance in 9/11 because it has been massively distorted by the way our media slavishly follows an American perspective on news. I personally find it obscene that 9/11 received, and still receives, so much publicity compared to much greater atrocities such as in Rwanda. I don't think God shares the perception that everything revolves around America, so 9/11 is no more prophetically significant than the dozens of worse atrocities that have occurred over the last 100 years.

Spyral

I don't think God shares the perception that everything revolves around America

Amen

also %-age wise the omagh bombings were worse apparantly.. ah well America never got bombed or invaided by an opressing power so they havent a clue what its like. I guratee in the next world war if they get invaided they will get pwned.

Run_to_da_hills

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robindch

With enough googling, you should be able to find plenty of sites which purport to explain the WTC attacks in terms of the OT. But you may need exercise some caution -- the authors of the OT were as unaware of the USA as they were unaware of the WTC and you should perhaps consider whether or not the people who are writing these websites might just be creating an interpretation to suit themselves and their fears.

And 2,900 people dead in one day is relatively small by the standards of warfare. Picking one previous conflict at random, St Petersburg was losing more than that every day at the height of the siege in WWII.

siochain

JimiTime wrote:

Just a question. Would you regard 9/11 as the biggest event/attrocity in recent history?

Wars in Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Iraq etc,

AIDs in Africa.

There are many atrocities currently going on right now….

siochain

JimiTime wrote:

Just a question. Would you regard 9/11 as the biggest event/attrocity in recent history?

JimiTime wrote:

Wars in Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Iraq etc,

AIDs in Africa.

There are many atrocities currently going on right now….

JimiTime

I think some didn't understand the question. I am not asking if its the 'worst' attrocity. i do realise the fact that Rwanda, Aids in Africa, famine in Ethiopia, genocide in yugoslavia etc etc etc, were 'worse' as far as fatalaties etc. However, as one poster pointed out, the fact that 'America' was attacked gave it a bigger impact in the world media. Its certainly the biggest most recognisable event I recall. As I said, not the worst, but rocgnisable the world over.

PDN wrote:

I don't see prophetic significance in 9/11 because it has been massively distorted by the way our media slavishly follows an American perspective on news. I personally find it obscene that 9/11 received, and still receives, so much publicity compared to much greater atrocities such as in Rwanda. I don't think God shares the perception that everything revolves around America, so 9/11 is no more prophetically significant than the dozens of worse atrocities that have occurred over the last 100 years.

Fair enough about the 9/11 incident, I totally agree with you, but I think America is the world power of today. So I think as a nation it is significant. Alot of prophecy is related to the world powers, so I think that may give America a signifigance in prophesy.

robindch

JimiTime wrote:

A lot of prophecy is related to the world powers, so I think that may give America a signifigance in prophesy.

You may have missed my post just above, but in it, I mentioned that the authors of the OT probably weren't aware that the land currently occupied by the USA existed, and certainly weren't aware that the political state of the USA was going to exist way off in the future. This may explain why the OT doesn't make any predictions about the USA, or the attacks on the WTC.

Fanny Cradock

siochain wrote:

Wars in Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Iraq etc,

AIDs in Africa.

There are many atrocities currently going on right now….

Not to be pedantic, but there currently is no war in Zimbabwe.

I would think that events in the Middle east - the perpetual violence - would fit quite nicely into Biblical prophecy.

Scofflaw

Fanny Cradock wrote:

Not to be pedantic, but there currently is no war in Zimbabwe.

I would think that events in the Middle east - the perpetual violence - would fit quite nicely into Biblical prophecy.

Hmm, yes, but you can sum it up as "there will be violence in the Middle East". There's a prophesy you could get right every day! Not only that, but you can go quite a long way with it. I think I'm pretty safe prophesying violence in the Middle East in 5 years, too.

You heard it here first!

prophetically,
Scofflaw

Fanny Cradock

Actually, the Bible got there before you

Scofflaw

Fanny Cradock wrote:

Actually, the Bible got there before you

Oh alright then - violence, with guns!

so there,
Scofflaw

Medin

JimiTime wrote:

Just a question. Would you regard 9/11 as the biggest event/attrocity in recent history? I'm not talking about the worst, just the one that has the most global recognition. If so, has anyone come across anything reconsiling the event with biblical prophesy? Just curious to see whats out there. I've seen some stuff on the web, and its pretty poorly put together, but I'm wondering if anyone has come across any interesting points relating to it?

What do you mean? Only 2 massive buildings collapsed?! Far worse things are happening on this planet.

the_syco

Medin wrote:

What do you mean? Only 2 massive buildings collapsed?! Far worse things are happening on this planet.

Dropping a few nukes on Japan could be seen as worse, me thinks.

Shellie13

siochain wrote:

JimiTime wrote:

Just a question. Would you regard 9/11 as the biggest event/attrocity in recent history?

Wars in Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Iraq etc,

AIDs in Africa.

There are many atrocities currently going on right now….

burma- look at the publication "a lience to rape"- met the lady who worked on it-horrific stuff- yet most of the western world are TOTALLY unaware!

JimiTime

Medin wrote:

What do you mean? Only 2 massive buildings collapsed?! Far worse things are happening on this planet.

the syco wrote:

Dropping a few nukes on Japan could be seen as worse, me thinks.

shellie13 wrote:

burma- look at the publication "a lience to rape"- met the lady who worked on it-horrific stuff- yet most of the western world are TOTALLY unaware!

Ok. Could you read the OP. Do I not make it clear enough that I am not talking about the 'worst' event but the most recognisable one. Obviously there are hundreds of 'worse' events, but 9/11 was like, Bang, happened in minutes and took over the airwaves for months. It was an event that changed the world. It gave us 'the war on terror'. It struck a blow to the curent world power. It may eventually lead to a big brother state. Yes its disgusting the impact it had compared to other 'worse' attrocities (not that I want to minimise how bad 9/11 was), but thats the way the world operates. Although I think the famine in Africa, the earthquake in Pakistan and the genocide in Rwanda are worse attrocities, 9/11 made a bigger impact on me when it happened. I travelled round Asia and Australia in the october after 9/11, and the locals in the places I visited talked about it like the west did. There was no mention of worse attrocities, it made the biggest Impact on the world IMO. The fact that it was America made the diference. People just couldn't believe a) Someone hit America in such a way, and b) America couldn't prevent it. It showed America as vulnerable. For all their might, they didn't prevent it. Do you understand the point now??

fatmammycat

I would have thought the tsunami was a bigger event.

NP14

What do you mean? Only 2 massive buildings collapsed?!

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Actually 3 buildings collapsed, 4 if you include the Pentagon.

These are good movies on the subject.

9/11 Mysteries
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8129564295534231536&q=911+mysteries&total=762&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Oil Smoke & Mirrors
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8677389869548020370

Tim Robbins

JimiTime wrote:

Just a question. Would you regard 9/11 as the biggest event/attrocity in recent history? I'm not talking about the worst, just the one that has the most global recognition. If so, has anyone come across anything reconsiling the event with biblical prophesy? Just curious to see whats out there. I've seen some stuff on the web, and its pretty poorly put together, but I'm wondering if anyone has come across any interesting points relating to it?

I would say the advent of the internet.

bonkey

JimiTime wrote:

Just a question. Would you regard 9/11 as the biggest event/attrocity in recent history? I'm not talking about the worst, just the one that has the most global recognition.

I don't know about global. Western recognition...possibly, although the US Presidential elections of 2004 could arguably be considered a close second

If so, has anyone come across anything reconsiling the event with biblical prophesy? Just curious to see whats out there.

Can I ask why? Do you think biblical prophecy is centred around whatever grabs the attention most?

NP14

This guy, David Ray Griffin is the most sensible on 9/11, he is also a well respected theologian.

Some of these are well worth watching
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=david+ray+griffin&num=10&so=0&hl=en&start=0

JimiTime

bonkey wrote:

I don't know about global. Western recognition...possibly,

Thats the thing though, in my experience it wasn't just western.

although the US Presidential elections of 2004 could arguably be considered a close second

Can I ask why? Do you think biblical prophecy is centred around whatever grabs the attention most?

No, not at all. I enjoy reading prophesy and trying to work stuff out, or fit things in to the symbols in revelation and see where they lead. Unless I had a vision I'd never proclaim my certainty at my interpretation, as that is both dangerous and disrespectful IMO. Its just interesting thats all.

l33t-krew

Scofflaw wrote:

Oh alright then - violence, with guns!

so there,
Scofflaw

statistically more people die of gunshot wounds in washington dc than in the middle eastern conflict


Its those suicide bombers and road side bombs etc that are killing people.
:mad:

philologos

Hm. I wish it were so. There have been sick cases of rape and murder by the US forces as well.

Medin

JimiTime wrote:

Ok. Could you read the OP. Do I not make it clear enough that I am not talking about the 'worst' event but the most recognisable one. Obviously there are hundreds of 'worse' events, but 9/11 was like, Bang, happened in minutes and took over the airwaves for months. It was an event that changed the world. It gave us 'the war on terror'. It struck a blow to the curent world power. It may eventually lead to a big brother state. Yes its disgusting the impact it had compared to other 'worse' attrocities (not that I want to minimise how bad 9/11 was), but thats the way the world operates. Although I think the famine in Africa, the earthquake in Pakistan and the genocide in Rwanda are worse attrocities, 9/11 made a bigger impact on me when it happened. I travelled round Asia and Australia in the october after 9/11, and the locals in the places I visited talked about it like the west did. There was no mention of worse attrocities, it made the biggest Impact on the world IMO. The fact that it was America made the diference. People just couldn't believe a) Someone hit America in such a way, and b) America couldn't prevent it. It showed America as vulnerable. For all their might, they didn't prevent it. Do you understand the point now??

2 points taken:

1. America hit them own selves?
2. If you have CNN, ABC, NBC, and similar, even your cat getting ran over by a car can look worse than the WWII?