RTE in another tv headache

Daysha

For the 2nd week in a row, 3 top Championship games are scheduled for Sunday, the 2 football matches already scheduled, and now the 2nd replay between Limerick and Tipp. However, as far as I'm aware, RTE are not making any plans to televise the hurling match on RTE 1 or 2, which is just rediculous. This Munster Championship so far has been one of the best and the 2 previous Limerick/Tipp matches were classics. As it is already, hurling doesnt get half as much air time as football because of the teams involved, so RTE must show this match.

And I'm sorry to bring up this age old debate, but it must be noted that the Dublin/Meath replay just last Sunday was shown on RTE. The exact same clash a week later, and by the sounds of it nothing of the sort will be happening this time. Granted more people would watch a Dublin match but Munster Championships are one of the main highlights of the GAA calander. The fact that thier 2 previous matches were so good makes this all the more important to highlight.

Killme00

I agree..RTE simply must show this match!!

As for the Football versus Hurling bias, im not so sure. RTE has a commitment to show top leevl hurling and football matches and last week shows that they will endevour to do just that.

Its nearly time for an RTE3

Wishbone Ash

AFAIK RTE were prepared to show it if the game was scheduled for Saturday evening but boths camps preferred to put the players first and give them an extra day's rest.

dodgyme

TBH I think the hurling game is the one most non partisan people want to see. Should be a good game.

Flukey

They also have to allow for the people who don't want to see any sport on Sunday afternoon.

The Rooster

I'm not sure how they'll do it, but I'd bet the Limerick v Tipp game will be shown live this weekend.

dodgyme

Flukey wrote:

They also have to allow for the people who don't want to see any sport on Sunday afternoon.

They didnt last weekend so????

kevmy

They gotta show Limerick v Tipp. Perhaps the game will be on in the evening, is the throw in time set in stone?

Anyway I'd prefer to watch that than the Galway v Leitrim game and I'm a Connacht man

gucci

it would really suck if they didnt show the hurling, after the two nail biters we have alredy witnessed it is like a soap opera at this stage, except with better acting/action. screw people who dont want to watch sport on a sunday afternoon, they have the rest of the week!!!! come on rte dont let us down on this one

Kojak

kevmy wrote:

Anyway I'd prefer to watch that than the Galway v Leitrim game and I'm a Connacht man

I'm the same - I'm from Galway, yet I'd prefer to see the Tipp-Limerick match. It will be a hell of a lot more interesting than Galway and leitrim, IMO.

RTE wont show the hurling match, as they will already have be shown the big "money maker" in Dublin v Offaly. RTE knew that they would have been shoting themselves in the foot if they hadn't shown the Dublin Meath match, as it would have been a missed opportunity for high ratings.

I will be absolutly astounded if RTE show the hurling on RTE 1

Daysha

They might stream it online, but they're already streaming the 2 football matches on rte.ie already so I wouldn't know if they'd be able to handle it

Haven't a Clue

Think it's a bit crazy showing a Dublin match for the 3rd time in 4 weeks now. Like, grand, there would be considerable nationwide interest in Dublin/Meath, but there's no way in hell there's gonna be the same interest in Dublin/Offaly.

blackbelt

I wouldn't question televising the Dublin match,not because I'm from Dublin but because 70,000 at Croker seems more attractive plus its the capital which means a huge following.

Maybe you should ask why they are televising Galway-Leitrim which is bogwater football.I

stepbar

And is live televised football now reserved for the top teams? :rolleyes: Anyhow whats stopping the Munster council scheduling the match for 6pm enabling RTE to run off the matches on the one channel?

Nalced_irl

With replays of big games this year RTE must be crying at this stage. The teams certainly arent making it easy for them. I havent seen the start times of the games but im sure there is a way around it. Dublin v Offaly will obviously bring a large TV audience but you would imagine that Limerick V Tipp would bring a much higher audience than Galway V Leitrim also? I mean, given the chance, i dont think there is any question which game any GAA fan would prefer to watch.

Erin Go Brath

It is bad form if RTE don't make some effort to show the Limerick-Tipp game. It's guaranteed to be a fascinating game. Definitely the pick of Sundays games. They should still show the Galway-Leitrim game, but the Limerick-Tipp game should be on rte1 in that case, or at the very least they should stream it on their website.

jmayo

Flukey wrote:

They also have to allow for the people who don't want to see any sport on Sunday afternoon.

Can't they watch TV3 at least once, they may have soap repeat or some America dribble on.

Why should they have a dispensation for Dublin?
It looks like screw Tipp & Limerick or look at it another way, screw hurling fans.

I hear Babs has the team walking greyhounds this week, he is hoping they will learn how to hold onto a lead

Ok it is an old one but I couldn't resist.

blackbelt wrote:

I wouldn't question televising the Dublin match,not because I'm from Dublin but because 70,000 at Croker seems more attractive plus its the capital which means a huge following.

Maybe you should ask why they are televising Galway-Leitrim which is bogwater football.I

And Dubs wonder why the rest of the country can't stand them.
Remember the winners of the bogwater provincal title showed ye up last year.
So are we just suppose to watch dublin for the rest of the year?
Just because Dublin has population of over 1 million does not mean that most of them are GAA fans and some of the ones that are, are probably from some area that plays bogwater football.

Daysha

Well sounds like most of us were wrong in predicting the viewing figures for last weekend.

According to yesterdays Irish Times, the Waterford Cork match was by far the most watched of the 3 Sunday afternoon games, not the Dublin Meath replay. The average viewing figures for the hurling match was 342,000, compared to 282,000 for the football replay. Tyrone Dongel averaged in at 298,000.

If there was anything to persuade the GAA to show the hurling match at the weekend, that was it.

Daysha

Also in relation to Killme00's comment, I never meant to say that RTE show a bias between hurling and football. I was just saying that because of the nature of the 2 Championships theres bound to be more football on tv simply because theres more matches.

The Rooster

and peak viewing figures were as follows:

Waterford-Cork 513,000
Dublin-Meath 647,000
Tyrone-Donegal 406,000.

blackbelt

Come on JMayo,Leitrim vs Galway on paper is just a formality really.No offence intended to Leitrim.Bogwater football is referred to Leitrim more than anything else.Talk about a match that looks more lob-sided than the Dublin-Offaly match.

"And Dubs wonder why the rest of the country can't stand them.
Remember the winners of the bogwater provincal title showed ye up last year.
So are we just suppose to watch dublin for the rest of the year?" (JMayo)

Well no,you don't have to switch on if you don't want to.Please find the quote below that backs up my belief why Dublin-Offaly should be televised.If Haven't A Clue opinion is valid,I don't see why mine isn't.More interest in Galway-Mayo compared to Galway-Leitrim.Galway-Leitrim would be bottom of the pecking order.

"Think it's a bit crazy showing a Dublin match for the 3rd time in 4 weeks now. Like, grand, there would be considerable nationwide interest in Dublin/Meath, but there's no way in hell there's gonna be the same interest in Dublin/Offaly." (Haven't a clue)

I rest my case.

Kojak

I see that RTE have decided to show the Tipp-Limerick match on RTE 1 this Sunday.

Good to see some common sense prevaling.

Erin Go Brath

Great stuff! Thanks for the heads up kojak. They'll also be streaming the 3 live games on their website.

I'll be watching the hurling on tv, and the football on the laptop like last week. Can't be missing any of the live action now.

gucci

great news except i have a poxy senior league match on sunday @3 ......grrrrrrrrr!!

jmayo

blackbelt wrote:

Come on JMayo,Leitrim vs Galway on paper is just a formality really.No offence intended to Leitrim.Bogwater football is referred to Leitrim more than anything else.Talk about a match that looks more lob-sided than the Dublin-Offaly match.

"And Dubs wonder why the rest of the country can't stand them.
Remember the winners of the bogwater provincal title showed ye up last year.
So are we just suppose to watch dublin for the rest of the year?" (JMayo)

Well no,you don't have to switch on if you don't want to.Please find the quote below that backs up my belief why Dublin-Offaly should be televised.If Haven't A Clue opinion is valid,I don't see why mine isn't.More interest in Galway-Mayo compared to Galway-Leitrim.Galway-Leitrim would be bottom of the pecking order.

I just didn't like the bogwater reference.
I know that a lot of Connaught football can be bad to watch, espeically if you haven't an interest.
But I can't see Offaly challenging Dublin just like you see Leitrim as perceived no-hopers against Galway.
I hope I am wrong, but I actually reckon both matches will see the bigger more fancied team come out easy winners in the end.

I watched Cork Waterford last day because I reckoned it would be better match to watch and boy was it. Besides I think hurling is more skilful anyway.
Also got a chance to watch Tipp Limerick on Saturday night and thought it was great match, from the point of view of excitement and what would happen in the end.

I just think it would be unfair to hurling and the counties involved if they decide they will not show it, whereas they make exceptions when Dublin are involved.
But this is RTE, soccer fans have to stomach certain teams always being covered during the winter.

Erin Go Brath wrote:

Great stuff! Thanks for the heads up kojak. They'll also be streaming the 3 live games on their website.

I'll be watching the hurling on tv, and the football on the laptop like last week. Can't be missing any of the live action now.

Thats ok for the ones that have broadband. Don't fancy wtaching it on 24k dial up.

KevIRL

Nalced_irl wrote:

With replays of big games this year RTE must be crying at this stage. The teams certainly arent making it easy for them. I havent seen the start times of the games but im sure there is a way around it. Dublin v Offaly will obviously bring a large TV audience but you would imagine that Limerick V Tipp would bring a much higher audience than Galway V Leitrim also? I mean, given the chance, i dont think there is any question which game any GAA fan would prefer to watch.

I for one am a big fan of the replays this year. Jusr check my draws inthechampionship thread for details

kevmy

jmayo wrote:

I just didn't like the bogwater reference.
I know that a lot of Connaught football can be bad to watch, espeically if you haven't an interest.
But I can't see Offaly challenging Dublin just like you see Leitrim as perceived no-hopers against Galway.
I hope I am wrong, but I actually reckon both matches will see the bigger more fancied team come out easy winners in the end.

I agree with you there in that the bogwater football reference was uncalled for. I'd expect more from a man with Mayo tendencies :rolleyes:
And I agree that Dublin v Offaly is just as lopsided.
But realistically RTE from a marketshare point of view have to show Dublin games. The solution has prevailed as it did last week

Mushy

deise59 wrote:

For the 2nd week in a row, 3 top Championship games are scheduled for Sunday, the 2 football matches already scheduled, and now the 2nd replay between Limerick and Tipp. However, as far as I'm aware, RTE are not making any plans to televise the hurling match on RTE 1 or 2, which is just rediculous. This Munster Championship so far has been one of the best and the 2 previous Limerick/Tipp matches were classics. As it is already, hurling doesnt get half as much air time as football because of the teams involved, so RTE must show this match.

And I'm sorry to bring up this age old debate, but it must be noted that the Dublin/Meath replay just last Sunday was shown on RTE. The exact same clash a week later, and by the sounds of it nothing of the sort will be happening this time. Granted more people would watch a Dublin match but Munster Championships are one of the main highlights of the GAA calander. The fact that thier 2 previous matches were so good makes this all the more important to highlight.

Thankfully I'll be at the match this time.

As for the bit in bold, well, more people watched the hurling last weekend. I found it painful to watch football after watching the two Munster Championship matches at the weekend. Hopefully this weekend will be a classic again though, with Tipp prevailing...eventually.

I also kind of think its a disgrace that RTÉ wont show this match...talk about bias from our national broadcaster! Although then again, it might save the masses from Canning or some other awful commentator.

copacetic

Mushy wrote:

Thankfully I'll be at the match this time.

As for the bit in bold, well, more people watched the hurling last weekend. I found it painful to watch football after watching the two Munster Championship matches at the weekend. Hopefully this weekend will be a classic again though, with Tipp prevailing...eventually.

I also kind of think its a disgrace that RTÉ wont show this match...talk about bias from our national broadcaster! Although then again, it might save the masses from Canning or some other awful commentator.

most likely more people watched the hurling because the GAA insisted it started 15 mins before the football to ensure it kept a lot of viewers.

Also maybe you could interrupt the rant to actually read the thread or check online, or listen to the news?

stepbar

blackbelt wrote:

Come on JMayo,Leitrim vs Galway on paper is just a formality really.No offence intended to Leitrim.Bogwater football is referred to Leitrim more than anything else.

Well no,you don't have to switch on if you don't want to.Please find the quote below that backs up my belief why Dublin-Offaly should be televised.If Haven't A Clue opinion is valid,I don't see why mine isn't.More interest in Galway-Mayo compared to Galway-Leitrim.Galway-Leitrim would be bottom of the pecking order.

In fairness, Mayo were saying the same last year. And they only scraped by Leitrim. Galway were very lucky to come away with a victory in the corresponding fixture 2 years ago. Anyhow the fact that the Leitrim Galway match is fixed for 2pm is a reflection of the importance the match has. Fair enough, but there is no way in hell it should be demoted because Tipp and Limerick happens to be on the same day. Finally, Sunday is a big day for Leitrim GAA, we are opening our new 3 million eur stand. Its a big day for those involved.

Nalced_irl

KevIRL wrote:

I for one am a big fan of the replays this year. Jusr check my draws inthechampionship thread for details

Im a huge fan of them. We have seen some amazing games both in football and hurling because of it.

Kojak

copacetic wrote:

most likely more people watched the hurling because the GAA insisted it started 15 mins before the football to ensure it kept a lot of viewers.

Maybe not everyone wanted to watch the Dubs??

RTE would have to show the Dubs as the it would mean that they would loose out on huge ratings if they didn't. But not everyone would have wanted to sit down and watch it, especially as the hurling IMO was more exciting.

copacetic

Kojak wrote:

Maybe not everyone wanted to watch the Dubs??

RTE would have to show the Dubs as the it would mean that they would loose out on huge ratings if they didn't. But not everyone would have wanted to sit down and watch it, especially as the hurling IMO was more exciting.

well certainly not everyone would have, but likely more people would have imo.The ratings were likely skewed by the different start times. which the GAA insisted on as they felt otherwise the football would grab the much bigger share. They would likely have been pretty even anyway, but the timings would have affected the numbers imo.

Daysha

The only reason for the Dublin Meath peak viewing no's is simply because viewers switched to that match after the Waterford match.

I for one was dumbfounded at those ratings. Yes hurling is more exciting of the two but anything with Dublin gains massive interest and with a population of a quarter of the country I easily expected more viewers for the football (as did a number of journalists during the week). Wouldnt be surprised if we saw around the same figures again this Sunday.

The Rooster

A lot of people can't get it into their heads that there are a helluva lot of native Dubs who wouldnt cross the road to watch Dublin play, and would never dream of watching GAA on telly. Then there is a large number of people living in Dublin who are culchies and have no interest in the Dubs, other maybe hope they lose! Dublin's GAA supporter base is no bigger than Cork's, probably smaller.

jmayo

The Rooster wrote:

A lot of people can't get it into their heads that there are a helluva lot of native Dubs who wouldnt cross the road to watch Dublin play, and would never dream of watching GAA on telly. Then there is a large number of people living in Dublin who are culchies and have no interest in the Dubs, other maybe hope they lose! Dublin's GAA supporter base is no bigger than Cork's, probably smaller.

Well said and also Dublin during their summer runs attract a lot of so called fans. I guess every country does but how many of the hill would sit down and watch another team play on the telly never mind go to see Dublin playing a league match in Parnell park ?
I had to explain to one fan the other day who Micháel O’Muircheartaigh was :rolleyes:

Mushy

Copacetic wrote:

Also maybe you could interrupt the rant to actually read the thread or check online, or listen to the news?

1) My apologies...never knew the scheduling had changed only hours before.

2) What would I have learned about the match being shown on tv by reading the whole thread? The last post before mine was before the announcement was made(according to rte.ie anyway)

I didnt expect them to change any match already scheduled, cos each team deserves time on tv anyway, and I knew they most certainly wouldnt change a Dublin match for it. It would just seem kinda, dont know the right tword here, maybe hypocritical, for them to change scheduling on rte 1 for a Dublin, but not do the same for a different county. Obviously all resolved now though. apologies again.

kevmy

stepbar wrote:

In fairness, Mayo were saying the same last year. And they only scraped by Leitrim. Galway were very lucky to come away with a victory in the corresponding fixture 2 years ago. Anyhow the fact that the Leitrim Galway match is fixed for 2pm is a reflection of the importance the match has. Fair enough, but there is no way in hell it should be demoted because Tipp and Limerick happens to be on the same day. Finally, Sunday is a big day for Leitrim GAA, we are opening our new 3 million eur stand. Its a big day for those involved.

Yep Leitrim have made big strides in the last few years. Hope ye do well on Sunday. By the way is Declan Maxwell playing full-forward at the weekend? I'd like to see a match up between him and Hanley

kevmy

Mushy wrote:

2) What would I have learned about the match being shown on tv by reading the whole thread? The last post before mine was before the announcement was made(according to rte.ie anyway)

Kojak's post had it 6 hours before you posted. No offence but ya would have found out by reading the thread

copacetic

Mushy wrote:

1) My apologies...never knew the scheduling had changed only hours before.
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at least 6 hours beofore

Mushy wrote:

2) What would I have learned about the match being shown on tv by reading the whole thread? The last post before mine was before the announcement was made(according to rte.ie anyway)

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Again, kojak posted the information 6 hours before your post but you hadn't bothered to read it I guess?

I didnt expect them to change any match already scheduled, cos each team deserves time on tv anyway, and I knew they most certainly wouldnt change a Dublin match for it. It would just seem kinda, dont know the right tword here, maybe hypocritical, for them to change scheduling on rte 1 for a Dublin, but not do the same for a different county. Obviously all resolved now though. apologies again.

Well i'd agree it would have been but they had changed it a fair while before you posted so I thought you were being unfair, not really a big deal though

blackbelt

Sorry for the bogwater reference,I didnt mean any offence by it but on paper,both matches look lob-sided.I do not see any reason why any fans should begrudge another county having their match televised.

I was a bit perplexed by the comment that having Dublin-Offaly televised was ridiculous.Again I am coming to defend my county.You cant pick on the same county again and again.

Anyway,good to see the matter being resolved,not that it makes much difference to me.I will not get a sniff of any GAA action at all this weekend.

Mushy

Sorry again lads, I read to the end of page 1 thnking that was it.Wasnt near any computer/radio/rté related stuff that day(until I came home), so was still under the impression they were ignoring it.

stepbar

kevmy wrote:

Yep Leitrim have made big strides in the last few years. Hope ye do well on Sunday. By the way is Declan Maxwell playing full-forward at the weekend? I'd like to see a match up between him and Hanley

Maxwell is named at right half forward but I expect that to change with Maxwell more than likely moving into full forward and James Glancy moving out. Its time the first "real" shock of the season happened. Liatroim abu!