Student Fees @ TCD for Pharmacy

Lucas10101

I need to do Pharmacy but won't get the points (550+) thus am looking for a way around it. I thought of getting a degree in say Pharmacology or Medicinal Chemistry then going back to do Pharmacy at TCD. I comprehend that I must pay fees but are wondering what the fees might be for a Graduate Student to enter TCD to study Pharmacy.

I seen on the TCD Treasury Website that the undergratuate fee is 6132Euro per annum, thus just shy of 25,000 for the four years, but are these fees the same for Graduates or are there different fees incurred?

King.Penguin

Lucas10101 wrote:

I need to do Pharmacy but won't get the points (550+) thus am looking for a way around it. I thought of getting a degree in say Pharmacology or Medicinal Chemistry then going back to do Pharmacy at TCD. I comprehend that I must pay fees but are wondering what the fees might be for a Graduate Student to enter TCD to study Pharmacy.

I seen on the TCD Treasury Website that the undergratuate fee is 6132Euro per annum, thus just shy of 25,000 for the four years, but are these fees the same for Graduates or are there different fees incurred?

unless you get a grant for a mature student the fees will be the same. if you're really interested in doing pharmacy and being a pharmacist don't waste your time doing a Med Chem or Pharmac. degree. Either repeat the leaving cert and get more points or go to the UK.

xebec

Lucas10101 wrote:

I need to do Pharmacy

Why do you need to do Pharmacy?!

As King.Penguin said above, your best alternatives for a degree in pharmacy are to go abroad. Most people go to the UK, but some also go to Budapest AFAIK. The biggest problem with this is the cost factor - it won't be cheap!

paperclip

I'm doing pharmacy and already had some of a degree completed. This means I have to pay for part of my degree. It isn't cheap and if you want to do pharmacy and don't have the points, the best way to go about it is to repeat. Seriously. There are quite a few people in my class who already have full degrees and are returning. You'll be with a bunch of 18 year olds and will probably feel like you're starting over. Five years is a long way to go when you've already done a 4 year degree. Either do a postgrad in america/uk or repeat.

Lucas10101

Would there be any possibility that I could pay the TCD Fees each year to get in at my age at the moment. I could muster the finance each year but is this allowed and what way can it be gone about if possible.

So could I pay say next year?

xebec

You need to meet the entrance standards - Leaving Cert result.

Brods

From reading the Chem pop quiz in the LC forum you seem very clued-in, and while you may not get the points this year you seem capable of them. You could consider doing the A-levels if it's a matter of not haveing 6 subjects to get points from.

(First year pharmacy is crap by the way )

oneeyedsnake

Lucas10101 wrote:

Would there be any possibility that I could pay the TCD Fees each year to get in at my age at the moment. I could muster the finance each year but is this allowed and what way can it be gone about if possible.

So could I pay say next year?

If you could muster the finance each year then why don't you go to the UK?Also the course is easier in the UK,compared to Trinity's hours anyways.

paperclip

Crap? In what way? Just wondering, since I've just finished it!

fearcruach

Yeah I've just finished first year Pharmacy and I'd agree it's not great. You do a lot of pointless subjects in first year which takes the shine off it. The people are great however so It's great fun. I'd seriously advise just to be the shoe down and study as best you can and aim for the points.

Dave3x

fearcruach wrote:

I'd seriously advise just to be the shoe down and study as best you can and aim for the points.

I imagine at this stage that even the most fervent study session will have little impact on Leaving results. What with them being over for many, if not all (not bothered checking LC timetable to see if Latin or whatever other reject subjects are left).

Dave3x

Dave3x wrote:

I imagine at this stage that even the most fervent study session will have little impact on Leaving results. What with them being over for many, if not all (not bothered checking LC timetable to see if Latin or whatever other reject subjects are left).

Applied Maths?

Dave3x

Dave3x wrote:

reject subjects

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Myth

Myth wrote:

Applied Maths?

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(Lisa needs braces?)

Nietzschean

Dave3x wrote:

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lolz, jealous you never got the easiest A1 going?

King.Penguin

How mature of everyone.

Pet

Nietzschean wrote:

lolz, jealous you never got the easiest A1 going?

LC Biology or Music are the easiest A1s going, fyi.

King.Penguin

Well music is an easy a1 presumably if you already happen to have 10 years of playing the piano behind you. French (more so than German, can't comment on others) also appears to a subject you could very easily get an A1 if you were any way fluent. Applied Maths on the other hand really only requires you be good at maths/mechanics and that way of thinking. It has a much smaller syllabus then other subjects.

So I think if you took 5 random college educated people and asked them which subject they'd like to take in 5 months and get an A1 in, I'd presume the majority, certainly those from the engineering/science would take applied maths.

paperclip

Home Ec. So easy to get an A1 in.

But, wow, look how the thread has deviated.

Nietzschean

King.Penguin wrote:

So I think if you took 5 random college educated people and asked them which subject they'd like to take in 5 months and get an A1 in, I'd presume the majority, certainly those from the engineering/science would take applied maths.

with the subjects you took in sci would you have done enough/any mechanics to alter your view on that? i thought only the phy heads did mechanics in sci?

King.Penguin

the only ,maths i did in college was some algebra and calculus so i think the answer to your question is no. I think the fact it has the smaller syllabus and is essentially a right and wrong subject are the deciding factors. Biology, while considered conceptually easy is much broader.

Nietzschean

i'm not saying you were wrong, i was just curious if biologist types did much mechanics. And essentially i'd completely agree heck ye get a silly% in applied maths for just getting the diagrams right...

ApeXaviour

King.Penguin wrote:

So I think if you took 5 random college educated people and asked them which subject they'd like to take in 5 months and get an A1 in, I'd presume the majority, certainly those from the engineering/science would take applied maths.

I agree completely. Never did applied maths in school myself, yet I'd pick it before physics in your hypothetical situation, and I've a degree in physics. 5 months for just one LC subject is a bit excessive though no?

Actually just looking at this years applied maths paper. Not being cocky, but I reckon there's a good chance I could get an A1 in that with one day's preperation, if not right now.

King.Penguin

aren't you clever

ApeXaviour

You said yourself it's handy, it's the closest to what I've been doing for 4-5 years. I wouldn't be able to do the LC physics paper though without a good while to study for it, I know because I was pretty disappointed I couldn't answer half the stuff on this thread:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055107875

Nietzschean

ApeXaviour wrote:

I wouldn't be able to do the LC physics paper though without a good while to study for it, I know because I was pretty disappointed I couldn't answer half the stuff on this thread:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055107875

ah i could answer a decent number of them, doubt i'd get an A1 without a night's study for the exam though...

ApeXaviour

I could do all the derivation ones. Things like "define ampere's law" or "what's a U-value", "give two uses of gamma rays" got me though. Who the hell uses gamma rays?

Nietzschean

sterilisation, X-Rays both spring to mind i suppose

U value is the relative measure of the insulative properties of building materials iirc

ampere's law is something to do with magnetic fields due to passing current iirc... something like that anyhooo

ApeXaviour

If you wrote the above, you'd get sweet f.a. marks though.

Nietzschean

ApeXaviour wrote:

If you wrote the above, you'd get sweet f.a. marks though.

true, though i'm pretty sure i could write enough to get myself a C if not a B... like i said, take a night or so to get an A

Awayindahils

paperclip wrote:

Home Ec. So easy to get an A1 in.

But, wow, look how the thread has deviated.

Not anymore. the course changed 3 years ago and now is considered to be quite a bitch.

Economics is apperently a doddle to get a minimum of a B1 in and if you do a little work fairly handy for an A1.

And i know this has diverged a bit, but for students who need to pick up a subject the insititute of education push them towards picking up either Economics or Ag Science. That may be something to go on.

paperclip

Class of '03 here. Looks like I got in before the home ec floodgates....

Nietzschean

aye, though like home ec i think was my lowest result in my lc, useless course....

Crash

Easiest exam ever due to its basis in pure rote learning of a few things and a bit of plug and play maths is

ACCOUNTING.

nyom. so easy.

paperclip

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Easiest exam ever due to its basis in pure rote learning of a few things and a bit of plug and play maths is

ACCOUNTING.

nyom. so easy.

Was also the subject that made me want to cry when I considered doing it. So I didn't. It's just too mind numbing!

No offence to any accountants here...you know we need you guys!

angeldelight

For the OP.... don't forget to put RCSI and Cork on your CAO too, there can sometimes be a 5/10 point difference which might be enough!

If you're doing another degree before Pharmacy I'd say pharmacology would be a good bet as it would probably be more likely to get you in, along with your interview but do be warned that there's a lot of people with pharmacology degrees in my class and they don't find them that useful with the pharmacology we actually do, just taking a different angle.

I'm going into final year Pharmacy, and I know I keep ending up hijacking TCD threads for this but if you were a graduate and coming back, I'd recommend RCSI because in my class there's 20+ graduate students so you wouldn't be in such a minority. Also have you looked at the course syllabus? I had a look when I was in 6th year and chose RCSI over TCD for pharmacy as I didn't like the look of the 1st year course in TCD... our course was much more applied from the beginning, rather than lots of general info.

Wherever you do it it's a lot of hard work so good luck with it if you end up doing it!

InFront

Yes I'm in RCSI as well and I think there are educational advantages to be had in studying in a college devoted solely to medical education, as opposed to one ultimately controlled or financed or administered by a central/ university authority. If you want to do pharmacy you probably have RCSI down somehwere already though.
Good luck with those results.