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Biology (H)- The Aftermath...

  • 12-06-2007 4:05pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭


    I thought that was grand tbh, i got all section A done, 3 experiments, and 5 in section C..and still out an hour early! I was expecting the eye/ear tho, no sign!
    Question 12 was tricky with the nitrogen cycle imho, left that out...happy overall tho..:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭izzyflusky


    Same as u, the only thing is i only did one experiment. Was soo happy when i got the test cuz i was freakin out last nite n this mornin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 482 ✭✭Steve01


    Overall I'm very happy, 99% sure I got the A. I did the photosynthesis and enzyme experiments on Section B, both questions were lovely. Section C was probably easier than its every been! I was finished all necessary questions by half 3 (half an hour each for sections A and B - my arse) so I did an extra one.
    Section A was alright though I didn't like some of the questions, particularly the one on genetic crosses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭izzyflusky


    Yeah the crosses were easy but i wasnt sure bout those lines on top. i hope they were for XX n Xy, otherwise i got it wrong. A bit confusing tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭alancork


    in the short question on zylem, Q6, what are the two different types of zylem?couldnt remeber...hoping 4 a B or an A anyway...woo..:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭Nehpets


    Wasn't planning on counting it in my 6 because earlier I was prepared to fail it. Thought it was easy relative to what I was thinking :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭izzyflusky


    I was so pissed off when i couldnt answer that part cuz i was lookin at that diagram just before i left my house but didn't think we'd get anytin like that anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭Selphie


    Hope I got the B I needed, then again its kinda hard to tell with Bio, though I answered everything I could. Great experiments, photosynthesis and enzymes, Section A was fine except for the genetic crosses, couldn't work that out. Did all of section C and stayed in til the end. Happy enough, cause I thought it'd be much worse. My drawings are laughable though...total crap! Forgot a couple of things, but overall I think it went pretty well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Lovely! Did 2 experiments, left out photosynthesis, then did respiration, blood, breathing system, viruses, immunity, reproduction and hormones. Fantastic. Could have done ecology and genetics, but don't like DNA profiling or the nitrogen cycle.

    Wrote so much that I finished 5 minutes before time. Got a D in the mocks, but this was far easier. Couldn't remember a beneficial use of viruses, but everything else was grand really. I'd be dissapointed with less than a b2. B1..or maybe even an A2.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭adam_ccfc


    alancork wrote:
    in the short question on zylem, Q6, what are the two different types of zylem?couldnt remeber...hoping 4 a B or an A anyway...woo..:D
    They were Xylem Vessel and Xylem Tracheid.

    I did every question on it, the entire paper. Absolutely delighted with it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭carlowboy


    Hopefully got an A1 there. Easiest paper they put up yet and the question on the lung was nearly a copy of the one in the Sample paper. Makes you wonder if they'll mark it hard though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭Bluefox21


    yeah it was ok prob only got a b and I was looking for an A an economic benefit of viruses anyone get something for that I said chemical weapons :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    Grand paper. I love the way you can just daydream for half an hour and still havve time to finish the paper with another hour to spare.
    Such a relief to have it over with though. Now what to do during my 8 days of freedom?

    And no I'm not studying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭izzyflusky


    I actually thought of writing that, but at the end decided not to hahaha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Oatesy


    viruses can be used to transfer healthy genes into the lungs of cycstic fobrosis sufferers . :D Better have got my marks for that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭Assez Bien


    Was an easy enough paper but i wasn't happy with that genetic cross question, like as a short question its a bit tricky for some! They're probably gonna rape us regarding the way its marked though, your answers will prob have to be spot on considering the way the state isn't happy with the amount of people opting for biology instead of physics or chemistry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭adam_ccfc


    One beneficial example is GBV-C virus, which reduces death rates in HIV sufferers.

    (I recommend Biology: Essential Exam Revision by Sarah Dilleen to anyone doing Bio LC next years :) )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭izzyflusky


    Did anyone here go to the crash course in trinity in january or february? cant remember when it was really, with joe reville or sumtin like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭carlowboy


    Oatesy wrote:
    viruses can be used to transfer healthy genes into the lungs of cycstic fobrosis sufferers . :D Better have got my marks for that


    Aye, I wrote about the retroviruses used in drugs for HIV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭Eddie Ere


    I know this is an honours thread, but not bothering starting a new thread just for pass Biology.

    Pass was pretty simple, short questions a doddle, experiments had the ''throw a quadrat over an area'' one :D

    Sec C was mixed with Respo instead of Photo, very small part on Genetics and VERY little plants.. yay!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 sezconz


    dunno wat to think about it, was able to answer everything but still dunno!did anyone get the answer about the DNA in rats and using your knowledge in mitosis and DNA etc etc etc....didnt no where to start?!??!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 -blondie-


    Everyones making me feel worse about it! I found it kinda hard, I had been aming for a B1/A2 but now Im not sure I even got the B

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭adam_ccfc


    sezconz wrote:
    dunno wat to think about it, was able to answer everything but still dunno!did anyone get the answer about the DNA in rats and using your knowledge in mitosis and DNA etc etc etc....didnt no where to start?!??!
    They are all somatic (body) cells, so they are diploid, and contain chromosomes in homologous pairs, unlike sex cells, which are haploid, and would only contain half the DNA. Just throw in that mitosis results in daughter cells with the same number of chromosomes as the parent cell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 pilchard


    -blondie- wrote:
    Everyones making me feel worse about it! I found it kinda hard, I had been aming for a B1/A2 but now Im not sure I even got the B

    :(

    I'm feeling pretty much the same.. i probably did ok, but the exam was not what i expected..(i dunno what i expected though)..

    for some reason i just really didnt like it:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭BlackMamba


    thought it was grand. Thank god, i was having a painc attack all this morning!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Splinkk


    Was over the moon. I worked my arse off all day yesterday after maths paper 2 for it and it really paid off.
    Got a C2 in the mock, and would have been happy with any improvement on that, but now I think I could have gotten the A! =)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 482 ✭✭Steve01


    That diagram for the mitosis question was appalling. Like if it was the same picture in the book I would have known without a doubt what phase it was in.
    Out of interest what was the correct answer?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 chas_88


    Steve01 wrote:
    That diagram for the mitosis question was appalling. Like if it was the same picture in the book I would have known without a doubt what phase it was in.
    Out of interest what was the correct answer?

    Metaphase.
    I don't think it needed a better diagram really, you could get everything that was asked from the one given.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Marshy


    Steve01 wrote:
    That diagram for the mitosis question was appalling. Like if it was the same picture in the book I would have known without a doubt what phase it was in.
    Out of interest what was the correct answer?
    Metaphase, 2n=4, thats what I got.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭adam_ccfc


    Yeah it was obvious as sin, in fairness, if you actually knew the stages!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 482 ✭✭Steve01


    adam_ccfc wrote:
    Yeah it was obvious as sin, in fairness, if you actually knew the stages!

    Like hell it was. It looked nothing like it does in the textbook and it was difficult to tell whether the chromosomes were arranged along the centre or whether they were moving apart. But since it looked like the spindle fibres weren't pulling apart (again, hard to tell) I went for metaphase and got the marks. So ha! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭Bluefox21


    nooooo thought it was anaphase..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    My Short Questions were poor.

    Q1 poor
    Q2 what the hell was with the pyramid?
    Q3 Said 2n = 8!!
    Q4 Good
    Q5 Think i got it
    Q6 AHHHHHH I said Xylem crossed it out and said Phloem, i did say tracheids and vessels though.......

    Not good not good at all

    Did the Enzyme experiment all went well
    Did the Photosyntheses experiment all went well

    I thought the Long questions were very long! Just got my 4 questions finished! 30 mins spend on each.

    Done the Question on Respiration and Enzyme = Good apart from last part of b) got abit confused.

    Did Question on Lungs etc....... Went well although diagram not the best!

    Viruses and Immunity went alright not 100% though

    Male Reproduction and Hormones went well.

    So overall looking at a B3 hopefully probably a C1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Metaphase yeah, but surely the diploid number was 8?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Marshy


    What answers did people get for the xylem short question? Where is the vascular tissue in a dicot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Marshy


    Metaphase yeah, but surely the diploid number was 8?
    There were only 4 chromosomes though, unless I'm going blind ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭genericgoon


    No each chromosome at that stage is made from two chromataids which when separated will form a new chromosome in each daugther cells nucleus. Dont forget the 2 cells need the same no. of chromosomes post-mitosis. Not too bad a paper. Id say a B to a A depending how things go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭genericgoon


    Marshy wrote:
    What answers did people get for the xylem short question? Where is the vascular tissue in a dicot?

    I assume in the vascular bundles which are spread in circular shape around stem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭adam_ccfc


    Metaphase yeah, but surely the diploid number was 8?
    No, the chromatids are going to be pulled apart into two groups of four, which will be in the nuclei of the new cells.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭adam_ccfc


    I assume in the vascular bundles which are spread in circular shape around stem.
    Yeah, inside of the vascular bundles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭genericgoon


    I added the location of them for insurance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    How much is each short question worth? 10 marks? Messed up a slight bit on the xylem one (xylem tracheid is NOWHERE in my book), then a bit on the genetics one and possibly on the mitosis one, but I'm pretty sure that the haploid number was 4, and diploid number was 8. Lost about 6 marks I'd say, then lost 6 marks for not getting the benefit of a virus...still in line for the A2..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭genericgoon


    Diploid number was 4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Quiet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭genericgoon


    Xd


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭adam_ccfc


    You needn't have, the question said "in the stem".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭carlowboy


    How much is each short question worth? 10 marks? Messed up a slight bit on the xylem one (xylem tracheid is NOWHERE in my book), then a bit on the genetics one and possibly on the mitosis one, but I'm pretty sure that the haploid number was 4, and diploid number was 8. Lost about 6 marks I'd say, then lost 6 marks for not getting the benefit of a virus...still in line for the A2..


    Short questions are 20 marks. You can keep telling yourself 2n=8, its not going to make it right. The mother (my bio teacher) said its 2n=4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭genericgoon


    Anyways a missed section of a short question isnt exactly the end of the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 147 ✭✭mateo


    I thought the Short Answers were awful!! :(

    I probably got about 60%, don't care that much though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Ah I'm not fussed or panicking, I still nailed experiments and long questions, which is enough for a B1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭genericgoon


    Indeed its not too tough to scrape together about half marks in the A part even if you missed a few,


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