Bottling Bands

Driver 8

Just read an article on last year's Reading where My Chemical Romance and Panic at the Disco got bottled rather severely

Is it ever justified? And am I wrong in saying that metal fans are generally the first to abuse support bands (I've heard horrors stories of what happened to Linkin Park and Lost Prophets at Metallica gigs)

Personally, I think that physically endangering a band is taking things way too far. Just walk away, or boo if they're really that bad. A good heckle's always fun too;) opinions?

Okie

Lost Prophets got some abuse that day! Bottles, toilet roll and tennis balls(!?!) were some of the things fired in their general direction. They weren't great but I don't think they deserved all that!!! Kinda felt bad......after a while!

Have a look at how poor ol' Fiddy fared out at the Reading festival a while back!

Throw 'em if you got 'em!

Sinfonia

Daphne and Celeste
I think that one was justified

Karl Hungus

I think it's pretty god damn juvenile. I've certainly loathed some support bands, and some bands at festivals before, but I've never been tempted to bottle anyone. I'd just go to the bar while they're on.

Sadly, hurling things at concerts just seems to be the 'Done' thing. I find it just as often happens to poor sods in the audience. Just on Sunday, the guy right infront of me at Dream Theater got a nasty bash from a full water bottle.

Hurling a bottle is a very scumbaggy thing to do.

lordgoat

Can't ever imagine a bad annoying me so much into throwing something at them to inflict an injury. As above, i'd not go and see them or wait til they've done their ****ty little poem or song.

While Daphne and Celeste are ****ing awful i think pissing in a bag and throwing it at them is ****ing disgusting.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

uh

did that actually happen?
lol

Doctor J

Driver 8 wrote:

Is it ever justified?

No. If you believe there is ever just cause to fire a missile at someone just because you dislike the music they play, or for any other reason for that matter, then you are a ****ing worthless piece of **** who should be locked away from civilised society until your ****ty existence comes to an end.

Driver 8

I know it's not specific to metal, but still, the instances of bottling at reading, and download in england, and metallica gigs, why are metal fans so violent in their reaction to bands they dislike?

projectmayhem

Karl Hungus wrote:

I think it's pretty god damn juvenile. I've certainly loathed some support bands, and some bands at festivals before, but I've never been tempted to bottle anyone. I'd just go to the bar while they're on.

Sadly, hurling things at concerts just seems to be the 'Done' thing. I find it just as often happens to poor sods in the audience. Just on Sunday, the guy right infront of me at Dream Theater got a nasty bash from a full water bottle.

Hurling a bottle is a very scumbaggy thing to do.

i agree, but i don't think i've ever laughed so hard when lostprophets got belted out of it whilst supporting metallica

Karl Hungus

Driver 8 wrote:

I know it's not specific to metal, but still, the instances of bottling at reading, and download in england, and metallica gigs, why are metal fans so violent in their reaction to bands they dislike?

Well I'd say most metal fans aren't, and it only takes a small group of scumbags to bottle an act, but I'd probably say the reasoning is a sense of elitism compounded by copious drinking.

goodfela

lordgoat wrote:

Can't ever imagine a bad annoying me so much into throwing something at them to inflict an injury. As above, i'd not go and see them or wait til they've done their ****ty little poem or song.

While Daphne and Celeste are ****ing awful i think pissing in a bag and throwing it at them is ****ing disgusting.

Bottles are bad enough but that is ****ing disgusting - never justified to lob things at a band...cowardly little ****ers in the middle of a crowd doing it...

BaZmO*

I went to see The Mainline in Tripod last year with a few mates, one of which was good friends with the band. While the band were about 2 songs into their set some guy in front of us hurled a full bottle of beer at the stage. Luckily enough it missed everyone, because if it hadn't of it would've certainly inflicted some serious damage.

It was quite a surreal moment, I couldn't believe that someone would do such a thing. I took us a few minutes to actually realise that it did actually happen, and when we did the mate that knew the band had a right go at the wánker that threw the bottle. As it happens he was just a drunk tosser trying to be all Rock and Roll or something.

Personally I would never throw something at a band I didn't like, I'd just leave or put up with them until the main act were on.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

Driver 8 wrote:

Just read an article on last year's Reading where My Chemical Romance and Panic at the Disco got bottled rather severely

Is it ever justified? And am I wrong in saying that metal fans are generally the first to abuse support bands (I've heard horrors stories of what happened to Linkin Park and Lost Prophets at Metallica gigs)

Personally, I think that physically endangering a band is taking things way too far. Just walk away, or boo if they're really that bad. A good heckle's always fun too;) opinions?

first of all, i dont agree with a band being bottled. Bands like my chemical romance and panic at the kiddies disco have sort of a cult following, and you either love them or hate them. If they played at the download festival they wouldn't get bottled off stage in a million years, the reading crowd is a lot different

but linkin park and lost prophets, opening for METALLICA!!! that was never going to work!! the three bands are sooooo different!!
One of my best friends was at that metallica gig, he actualy hit the singer from linkin park with a bottle!!

BaZmO*

Journey Shapely Speedboat wrote:

One of my best friends was at that metallica gig, he actualy hit the singer from linkin park with a bottle!!

So your best mate is a scumbag then?

Karl Hungus

Journey Shapely Speedboat wrote:

Bands like my chemical romance and panic at the kiddies disco have sort of a cult following, and you either love them or hate them. If they played at the download festival they wouldn't get bottled off stage in a million years, the reading crowd is a lot different

?

MCR did play at the Download festival, and they did get bottled. A lot.

Nightwish

As much as I despise bands like MCR and Lostprophets, bottling a band is a really sh!tty thing to do. If you don't like them - ignore them, thats what I did at Metallica a few years ago. I will never understand though, why promoters think its a good idea to put a band like MCR at Download, or a band like Lostprophets or LP supporting Metallica.

Kudos to Amy Lee at Download for her rant, after people threw bottles at her piano.

Karl Hungus

Nightwish wrote:

Kudos to Amy Lee at Download for her rant, after people threw bottles at her piano.

What did she say?

Peyton Manning

Karl Hungus wrote:

What did she say?

Im gonna guess 'stop throwing bottles at my piano'?

Driver 8

To be fair to Amy Lee, what does she have to worry about? That piano will probably absorb any damage, and if any of the other musicians get hit, she'll just sack them and hire new ones.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

Karl Hungus wrote:

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MCR did play at the Download festival, and they did get bottled. A lot.

i knew they headlined, i didn't know they got bottled. i assumed they wouldnt because they were headlining. if there was no band playing after them, people who dont like them had no reason to stay around, other than to bottle them, which is pretty stupid. I hate mcr, but i wont be botteling them off stage ot ******, il be at another band.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

BaZmO* wrote:

So your best mate is a scumbag then?

no

BaZmO*

Journey Shapely Speedboat wrote:

no

Well by your own admission he is.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

BaZmO* wrote:

Well by your own admission he is.

explain

magpie

I agree that the proper way to show disdain for a band would be for the entire audience to decamp en masse.

However, for 'tough guys' like fiddy cent, who has been shot 10,000,000 times, surely a bottling is nothing?

machiavellianme

One of the Feile's (possibly 97), everyone was tossing their empty coca cola/beer cups (paper) into the air (not at the stage) during the Manic Street Sweepers set. Literally thoussands at a time. If a few inadvertently struck the band, it wasnt a big deal because it was just paper cups. When did throwing bottles become cool? Its just not on. Someone could be seriously hurt.

From the opposite side of things, I needed stitches after being struck on the back of the head with a drumstick after the darkness's set some years back. I was walking away from the stage and the drummer was throwing (and I mean throwing) out some sticks and plectrums into the crowd but as I had my back to it, I was hit full whack. To make it worse, I didnt get the drumstick (as evidence) cos some idiot made off with it. He then thought it would be funny to hit one of his mates across the head with it. Some people!

BaZmO*

Journey Shapely Speedboat wrote:

explain

Journey Shapely Speedboat wrote:

One of my best friends was at that metallica gig, he actualy hit the singer from linkin park with a bottle!!

Ergo, you're mate is a scumbag.

machiavellianme wrote:

One of the Feile's (possibly 97), everyone was tossing their empty coca cola/beer cups (paper) into the air (not at the stage) during the Manic Street Sweepers set. Literally thoussands at a time. If a few inadvertently struck the band, it wasnt a big deal because it was just paper cups.

I was at one, I think it was 97. It was the last ever Feile, the Prodigy Headlined it.

Those paper cups flying through the air looked amazing and yeah, nobody got hurt. It was funny looking at everybody scrambling to the stands as soon as that torrential downpour started and then the Manics started playing Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

BaZmO* wrote:

Ergo, you're mate is a scumbag.

where did I admit he is a scumbag, as you said earlier?

BaZmO*

Journey Shapely Speedboat wrote:

where did I admit he is a scumbag, as you said earlier?

Christ! :rolleyes: How much more do I need to spell it out to you?

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

BaZmO* wrote:

Christ! :rolleyes: How much more do I need to spell it out to you?

so you are saying he is a scumbag, based on the fact he threw a bottle at a band? you don't know the guy, you have never met him, but he is still a scumbag?

BaZmO*

Journey Shapely Speedboat wrote:

so you are saying he is a scumbag, based on the fact he threw a bottle at a band? you don't know the guy, you have never met him, but he is still a scumbag?

Clap, Clap, Clap! Well done. A+

Thomas_S_Hunterson

Journey Shapely Speedboat wrote:

so you are saying he is a scumbag, based on the fact he threw a bottle at a band? you don't know the guy, you have never met him, but he is still a scumbag?

Yeea, in fairness people who behave as crudely and as disgustingly as that are scumbags, no matter where they are from.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4

BaZmO* wrote:

Clap, Clap, Clap! Well done. A+

im sure you are an angel arnt you? you have never done anything that your friends didnt agree with. this guy is far from a scumbag, how can you be so singleminded that you judge a person so easily. there are millions of things worse than throwing a bottle at a band. i have seen people push over porto loos at festivals, with people in them!! those people are scumbags.
anyway, lets get back onto the main topic!!

gucci

magpie wrote:

However, for 'tough guys' like fiddy cent, who has been shot 10,000,000 times, surely a bottling is nothing?

wacca wacca wacca excellent point

stovelid

Driver 8 wrote:

Just read an article on last year's Reading where My Chemical Romance and Panic at the Disco got bottled rather severely

As sorely tempted as I'd be to bottle either band , it's well out of order. Grounds for walking off stage until security get the muppets responsible. Just go and get a drink if you don't like the bands.

Journey Shapely Speedboat wrote:

im sure you are an angel arnt you? you have never done anything that your friends didnt agree with. this guy is far from a scumbag, how can you be so singleminded that you judge a person so easily. there are millions of things worse than throwing a bottle at a band. i have seen people push over porto loos at festivals, with people in them!! those people are scumbags.
anyway, lets get back onto the main topic!!

The topic is throwing bottles.

If your mate threw a bottle at somebody on the street, he'd be a scumbag. When he does it at a gig, safe in the knowledge that he can't get his head kicked in; its the same.

If I was standing beside somebody who hit somebody on stage with a bottle, I'd probably smack them myself tbh.

magpie wrote:

However, for 'tough guys' like fiddy cent, who has been shot 10,000,000 times, surely a bottling is nothing?

classic!

Dark Artist

Throwing bottles is completely retarded and I don't know how people in their right minds can do it to other human beings.

Tchocky

Yan (British Sea Power) got a full pint all over his guitar, about two minutes into a gig. He was not pleased by this most un-forward-thinking behaviour

Nightwish

Karl Hungus wrote:

What did she say?

She had this to say.

Driver 8

God bless her. I wonder what way she broke the news to all the band members she's fired that they didn't "belong here".....

Hypnotoad

Driver 8 wrote:

I know it's not specific to metal, but still, the instances of bottling at reading, and download in england, and metallica gigs, why are metal fans so violent in their reaction to bands they dislike?

In life outside of gigs a lot of them are little ''rockers'' who hang out at the bank and I imagine they get their fair share of beatings so when in a crowd of others they feel big by attacking someone else?

Pigman II

#Elites wrote:

every band shoud do what Akon did, pick them up and throw em away:D

I though Akon just dryhumps whatever trash lands up on stage in front of him?

Personally tho I think I'd take the Mike Patton approach and just sift thru what was thrown at me in hope of finding a tasty treat.

heiid

Driver 8 wrote:

Just read an article on last year's Reading where My Chemical Romance and Panic at the Disco got bottled rather severely

Is it ever justified? And am I wrong in saying that metal fans are generally the first to abuse support bands (I've heard horrors stories of what happened to Linkin Park and Lost Prophets at Metallica gigs)

Personally, I think that physically endangering a band is taking things way too far. Just walk away, or boo if they're really that bad. A good heckle's always fun too;) opinions?

***********************************************

They deserve every bottle that hit them. Why were they even there?? boybands/emos eg mcr, lstprof, paparoach, linknpark, bfmv should not have slots at so called 'metal' concerts or festivals. They physically endanger themselves by playing pop ****e in front of thousands of drunken metalers.
There was a good ol bottlin' in 2003 when linknpark supported metallica and in 2004 when lost prophits did. cheers to the guy who got a bottle of somthing all over the linkinpark decks
was funny when Slipknot came on after and cory taylor sarcasticly says "Lets give it up for lost prophits!" lol

rahim

Journey Shapely Speedboat wrote:

im sure you are an angel arnt you? you have never done anything that your friends didnt agree with. this guy is far from a scumbag, how can you be so singleminded that you judge a person so easily. there are millions of things worse than throwing a bottle at a band. i have seen people push over porto loos at festivals, with people in them!! those people are scumbags.
anyway, lets get back onto the main topic!!

That’s funny how you've labelled people you don't know, who tip over porta loos, as 'scumbags' but use the argument that someone doesn't know your friend as a defence against him being a scumbag. Both actions endangered someone’s health. It takes a certain person to get up on a stage and play music they have written to people they don't know (granted they are paid well to do it but it doesn't give anyone the right to abuse them). To attempt to injure them because you do not like their music or feel they don't "belong" there is incredibly stupid and arrogant. Would your friend bottle someone busking on a street he was on because he thought they were useless? I'm not calling your friend a scumbag, but, I strongly disagree with throwing anything at someone on stage and I would have no time for people who do.

Nea

Bring back L7.

At one of the Reading festivals when L7 were playing the crowd started throwing lumps of muck on stage to which Donita Sparks responded in protest by ripping out her tampon and throwing it to the crowd

"They threw mud," she later explained. "We threw blood."

Neville Flynn

here's david yow of the jesus lizard getting bottled http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu9lUbf5GQ0 48 second in, within a minute hes back up and singin on !!! crazy bastard

also when fiddy was being bottled despite a constant procession of bottles he made sure to stay the pre-requisite 30 minutes or whatever it was needed to make sure he got paid !!