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TPTK facing heavy action on a paired board

  • 11-06-2007 4:13pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭


    Green Joke Poker 0.25/0.50, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

    Button ($13.63)
    SB ($50.45)
    BB ($90.45)
    UTG ($31.80)
    UTG+1 Hero($51.65)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Aspade.gif Qclub.gif
    UTG calls 0.50, Hero raises to 2.50, 1 fold, SB calls 2.25, 1 fold, UTG calls 2.

    Flop (8.00) Qheart.gif 5spade.gif 5club.gif
    SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 5, SB calls 5, 1 fold.

    Turn (18.00) 4spade.gif
    SB checks, Hero bets 12, SB moves all-in for 42.95, Hero??


Comments

  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    I usually check behind on this turn a lot I think. Unless you have a reason for thinking you are good, you are probably beat a lot here and even getting around 2.5/1 it is a marginal decision. There is no draw on the flop, so the only hand he has that you beat is 66-JJ, or a worse K (unlikely). I want to fold but I probably call because I suck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Tricky one, if I was betting the turn I would be doing so willing to call the push, he'll have a weaker Q or a lower PP here enough to make it profitable I'd think, he'll also have a 5 some of the time, but I'm a calling station.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    I'd fold pretty quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    I'm not folding here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    I'd fold pretty quickly.

    Not as quickly as I call.

    but I'd always check behind on turn.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭HiCloy


    I'd check behind the turn a lot unless he's a total station, but as played I'd call. I think he has KQ, flush draw or even a straight draw too often to fold here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭TacT


    fold and very lightningly fast. The way I see it is the check/call from him in the sb on the flop would appear to be him trying to figure out if you have the Q or a better pair. When he knows that for sure on the turn when you lead out again -- he shoves with his 5 to get protection from the fd looming on the turn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭BobSloane


    TacT wrote:
    fold and very lightningly fast. The way I see it is the check/call from him in the sb on the flop would appear to be him trying to figure out if you have the Q or a better pair. When he knows that for sure on the turn when you lead out again -- he shoves with his 5 to get protection from the fd looming on the turn.

    Thats one theory. Or he can often have a hand like QJs QKs here too and be using his flush outs to represent the 5. Getting 2-1 its pretty close I think. But its probably a call


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭lolkelly


    Whats always crucial here is if you have any info on the villian??? Im guessing not since you didnt include it in the post.

    Against an unknown though at these stakes, I make the call!
    Im not sure how people can say this is a quick/easy fold. We are ahead alot more times than were behind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭TacT


    lolkelly wrote:
    Whats always crucial here is if you have any info on the villian??? Im guessing not since you didnt include it in the post.

    Against an unknown though at these stakes, I make the call!
    Im not sure how people can say this is a quick/easy fold. We are ahead alot more times than were behind.

    I've found out the hard way many, many times before at the micro limits that you are more often behind here than ahead.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    After much palpitation I call here....
    even though I think fold might be better , I gotta see


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Call that sucker down!


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