Proteins, Carbs and Fats

Boston

So I've started on the road to good health. I picked out a copy of precise nutrition and started on the diet Guide, it made depressing reading, mainly because it so vividly high lighted my extremely poor eating habits, and that even some of the more healthy meals(In my mind) where bad for me and of little value. Anyway, there's constant references to Proteins, Carbs and Fats as was micro/macro nutrients, what are all these things and what do they do for you. It gives so examples of each type but I like to know more.

Also should I buy Gourmet Nutrition by Beradi? I really want to get my diet taken care of. I see it as the major cause of my poor health.

daveirl

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Boston

Ah yes thank you.

I was also reading that you should avoid "Fruit juices". Those that include things like cranberrie juice and apple juice, or would it be things like sunny D.

daveirl

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MicraBoy

Also should I buy Gourmet Nutrition by Beradi? I really want to get my diet taken care of. I see it as the major cause of my poor health.

Did you not get a copy of Gourmet Nutrition with the precision nutrition stuff?

I think you'll be fairly disappointed if you think anything in that book is going to be gourmet.

That said if you are a complete numpty in the kitchen it does contain some good simple solid meals that will help with the diet. I bet you'll find over time you only make the same few over and over. Hopefully though by that time you will also have expanded your knowledge and can adapt be a bit more creative/inventive.

One very annoying think about that book is that it is all in American measures. I still have no idea how much a "cup" is.

Boston

Nope wasn't with the copy I got. Its a available separately. I got the 5 minute meals one and the super shakes one.

daveirl

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MicraBoy

You can go into any Tesco/Dunnes/etc and get a set of measuring cups.

LOL have done. I was being a little facetious. I think its use is not consistent between the recipes, i.e. in some cases it seems way too much and some times way too little depending on the ingredient. I confess to being a recipe pedant

daveirl

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Boston

I'm unsure what numpty means. I just want to do this thing right. At the moment theres nothing in my diet I'm attached to. I don't eat crap like Burger king, and very seldom go to a chipper, can't stand the taste of chocolate. That said bread ,steak, and potatoes are what I eat. Keeping that in mind do you think this Gourmet nutrition book is a good idea to have.

MicraBoy

By numpty I mean useless in the kitchen. Well may be not useless, let's call it inexperienced.

For example Gourmet Nutrition contains a fair amount of background material as well as recipes. It also contains basic info like how to flip an omelette, or chop garlic and roast chicken breasts. Fair basic stuff which if you have done any cooking should be handy enough. It even goes so far as too categorize meals into "Anytime" and "Post workout" which should be obvious enough from the rest the PN info.

If you say the recent thread where Boru listed his meals for the day. Most of those are examples recipes from GN. If you aspire to that kind of meal then its a good bet. However if you feel confident and creative enough in the kitchen then most of the info you require is in the stickies here.

I have another book I quite like which has several recipes on the PN/GN vibe. Its called "The GL diet, Diet Freedom" by Nigel Denby (ISBN: 1844541126). I know it sounds like a fad diet book, but I really feel it follows roughly the lines stated in the stickies and PN/GN but not quite as extreme.

Boston

ok I've come accross things such as milk protein products (low carb grow) and greens products (greens+) as well as egg whites cartions and extra lean beef in the stuff I'm reading. Can you just walk into a super market and buys these things, what would the irish/european equavalent of them be? Wrt the extra lean beef, is a butcher likely to know what I'm talking about? Also whats all this omega 3/6 profile business.

I feel like a complete noob.

thansk for any help.

MicraBoy

This is where GN started to wreck my head.

-Greens+, never found an equivalent here in Ireland
-Egg whites, never found in Ireland but you can order online from England if you want, or just separate the Egg yolk/white manually yourself (kinda annoying, and there is a knack to it). You can get omega rich eggs in most places called MeggaEggs or something.
-Low Carb Grow, there are loads of protein supplements available online and in supplement shops here.
-Extra Lean Beef, Tesco do a "Healthy Living" type of mince that is typically less than 5% fat. I think this is the best you will do. Note the normal variety is typically 10%.

Berardi is obsessed with Omega3/6 and recommends taking supplements, but you can get it from fish, eggs, flax (can get milled flax in health food stores).

My advice. Don't get bogged down in the stuff you can't get or supplements, just get into cooking healthy food, and knowing how to be prepared so you don't end up taking convenience short cuts.

Boston

Migth as well continue on this thread since is started here. what's the general opinion of these foods

muesli - Seems to have allot of the elements that Beradi mentioned. So I plan to switch to this, over the usually corn flakes. Do you just add milk and away you go, or is that a bad idea?

Brown Rice - Planing to use this as my potato/ stock food replacement.

Those health bars - I've a feeling these aren't a good idea. Mother picked up some for me from aldi or lidl, there where three types, sugar flakes, chocolate sugar flakes and apricots and oranges. The first two give me doubts about the third (which is the one bought). I broke my sugar addiction a long time ago and i don't want to develop again, is there anything out there like these "health" bars that are definitely healthy?

Soda bread - I know white break is out, what about soda break? I noticed though it has nearly a five to one ratio for carbs to proteins.

I've taken the advice about the fruit juices and gone for these mix frozen fruit things, again from lidl. Cranberries, blackberries, strawberries and the like. Blend them together with water from now on.

Natural yoghurt with strawberries - Tried plan yoghurt it's just too bitter. Beradi adds some kind of protein supplement to the yoghurt to make it taste better/more balanced, to they exist?

ali.c

hey boston,

This is my take on it,

Boston wrote:

Migth as well continue on this thread since is started here. what's the general opinion of these foods

muesli - Seems to have allot of the elements that Beradi mentioned. So I plan to switch to this, over the usually corn flakes. Do you just add milk and away you go, or is that a bad idea?

No added sugar museli is fine, i'd add milk because it also contains protein. Gives you your carb and protein start to the day.
Personally i prefer porridge though

Boston wrote:

Brown Rice - Planing to use this as my potato/ stock food replacement.

i hate it it takes ages to cook so i find it a pain, basmati rice has a low enough gi rating and is alot nicer. Though i just have veg and meat most days now!

Boston wrote:

Those health bars - I've a feeling these aren't a good idea. Mother picked up some for me from aldi or lidl, there where three types, sugar flakes, chocolate sugar flakes and apricots and oranges. The first two give me doubts about the third (which is the one bought). I broke my sugar addiction a long time ago and i don't want to develop again, is there anything out there like these "health" bars that are definitely healthy?

Read the igredients and see what you think, the only health bars i found any good are the ones i make myself tbh!

Boston wrote:

Soda bread - I know white break is out, what about soda break? I noticed though it has nearly a five to one ratio for carbs to proteins.

Depends on the ingredients tbh, mccambridges wholewheat bread is quite healthy maybe compare the ingredients and see what you come up with?

Boston wrote:

I've taken the advice about the fruit juices and gone for these mix frozen fruit things, again from lidl. Cranberries, blackberries, strawberries and the like. Blend them together with water from now on.

Check the ingredients i know some of the frozen berries in lidl are in syrup, if they are not your happy out! yup you could blend them together with water or you could add natural yogurt and get a meal out of it!

Boston wrote:

Natural yoghurt with strawberries - Tried plan yoghurt it's just too bitter. Beradi adds some kind of protein supplement to the yoghurt to make it taste better/more balanced, to they exist?

You could add whey protein, or fruit if its a taste thing! I love bananna and natural yogurt!

daveirl

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