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i'm being squeezed.... what to do

  • 09-06-2007 5:45am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭


    playing 1/2 no limit in se. 330 stack, villian covers by 20 or 30 euro.
    ive been playing relatively tight for 2.5 hours. villian has been at table the whole time. he's pretty solid tight aggressive player. i've shown down very few hands, no bluffs. i have been raising in position but nothing too crazy. i've just been outdrawn for a 600euro pot and i'm a little steamy. that information will come into play later :)

    i have JsQs in the cut-off

    utg limps, utg+1 limps, villian limps next position

    folded to me i make it 15

    sb (clueless moron) calls 15, bb folds, utg folds, utg+1 folds

    villian makes it 55

    i know that he can't have a real hand here. i haven't been raising cutoff/button enough for him to not raise AA/KK/QQ/JJ/1010/AK and from a decent amount of hours played with him i'm confident these hands can be taken out of his range. my guess is 99>, Axs, sooted broadway. villian would not gamble for his tank with these hands. sb to act behind folds out of turn, not that he was much a worry anyway.

    given my read what should i do?
    1. reraise to 160/180(essentially a push)
    2. push in
    3. fold
    4. call and play a flop

    i don't think folding is a good move here, it's weak and i do have major fe if i raise in this sort of a situation.

    calling is pretty awful. the worst of the 4 options? or not an option at all?

    after some comments i'll post what i actually did to give everyone a good chuckle.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Shadowless


    Have you considered he might call light because he know's you're steaming?

    If your confident of your read tank it in.
    I'd normally fold in this spot without much fuss tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭[nicK]


    BuChan wrote:
    given my read what should i do?
    1. reraise to 160/180(essentially a push)
    2. push in
    3. fold
    4. call and play a flop

    thanks for the options, it makes giving advice so much easier..

    this is an obvious fold..
    if you were deeper you could see a flop but with those stacks and raises you're just about priced out of a call and should wait for a better spot.. raising is suicidal on most parts but if your confident in your read you definately have decent equity against his range if called.. however i still fold and wait for a better spot...
    pf fold equity? does that even exist in irish cash games??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    given your read on his range, 3 bet or shove whichver you think looks stronger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    You have to be willing to go with your reads to really excel live so if you have the guts then fire away! Got to be a fold without a solid read though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭BuChan


    Shadowless wrote:
    Have you considered he might call light because he know's you're steaming?

    If your confident of your read tank it in.
    I'd normally fold in this spot without much fuss tbh.

    i don't think that anyone at the table knows i'm steaming, i haven't done anything to give it away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    I would fold, if I really had this ridiculous read I would go all in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    If your being squeezed as your title says then you need to tank it.

    tell us that you minraised? and everyone folded?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    Its actually the SB thats been squeezed and not you!

    Its pretty hard to imagine you playin tight for 2.5 hours. What are you calling tight? Serious question.

    If villain in the hand is solid tight aggresive as you say, I think he would raise with the range of hands you suggest, so i'd be happy with your reading of the situation. A raise from yourself in the CO or OTB doesnt particularly send out alarm bells so he probably is 3betting you with a hand that he cant call a push with.

    I'd pot it and hope to take down a 75 pot which is a result and it he does call, i'd be expecting a race


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭BuChan


    Flushdraw wrote:
    Its actually the SB thats been squeezed and not you!

    Its pretty hard to imagine you playin tight for 2.5 hours. What are you calling tight? Serious question.

    If villain in the hand is solid tight aggresive as you say, I think he would raise with the range of hands you suggest, so i'd be happy with your reading of the situation. A raise from yourself in the CO or OTB doesnt particularly send out alarm bells so he probably is 3betting you with a hand that he cant call a push with.

    I'd pot it and hope to take down a 75 pot which is a result and it he does call, i'd be expecting a race

    it's the flat caller behind who's being squeezed eh... i see.. i thought it was me, thanks. i have been playing pretty snug in cash games recently, i'm not abusing position... i don't think so anyway.

    i made the worst possible choice and called, as soon as i put my money in the pot steam shot out of my ears and i went into turbo spew mode. i was hoping the call would slow him down and maybe i could take it away on the flop.

    the flop was Kd9d3h he bet 75, since i'd one nothing right so far it was time to compound the error and tank it in on a gut shot, instacalled by Ad10d.

    it was a little stronger of a hand than i gave him credit for but still definitely not a hand he would have called a rereraise with.

    what i wanted to learn from this post is whether people think anyone would make this middle position squeeze move with a premium hand? a few people seem to agree with me that it's unlikely. an auto rereraise against an aggressive player that you know is capable of making moves could be a winning play in general? do people pull this limp reraise in middle or late position at higher stakes?


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