100nl hand Strong hand OOP

semibluff

New to the table and no particular reads

ive got 125$ in the sb

Villain A utg raises to 6$

Villain B flat calls in the cut off

i re-raise to 14.50 from the sb with AA

both call

(pot 43$)

Flop 465 rainbow

I bet 20 dollars (perhaps should have been 30/35 but i guessed the initial raise was too large and represented 1010 or JJ and wanted him to re-raise)

Ep calls, cut off min raises to 40 (WTF) . . . What do i do now? stinks of trips?!?

I ended up calling thinking ill re-assess on the turn but i prob need an Ace

We have three players to the turn after EP calls the min raise too

turn is a 3 giving us a board of 3456

I check . Now the Ep pushes all in, with the Cut off calling - both cover me

Back to me - what do i do?? This hand threw me alot and would like opinions on all streets and courses of action

sikes

whats ur hand?

3bet more preflop, bet out more on the flop.

Ste05

What do you have?? Maybe I missed it.

EDIT: Although I'd think you should probably fold pretty much everything you could have now. I wouldn't have played it like this though so far.

valor

raise more preflop, id shove over the flop cmr, fold now

semibluff

sorry , id AA

how much should i raise to?pre flop? flop?

if i signal out he has a pkt pair he is afraid of (his raise to six is not norm, it would norm be 4, maybe five in general at this level - i guessed he had pockets he didnt want to see a flop with - which is why i didnt bet out too much, hoping for a re-raise (over complicating it for this level??))

Ste05

I'd be making it at least $20 PF and more than likely $24 or so, $14.50 is basically a min-raise OOP against 2 players, terrible no matter what you have, it's also a lovely spot for a squeeze play so you're range should be wider than AK+ anyway

El Stuntman

bet sizing is way off

opr

I make it close to 30 preflop. As played i try to get it all in on the flop but TBH cause the raise has priced them in preflop i expect to be behind a fair bit.

Opr

semibluff

ok fair enough i should have raised more preflop certainly

but dont we want some type of customer with AA. To raise to 30 as opr suggested, surely thats too much?

imalegend

semibluff wrote:

ok fair enough i should have raised more preflop certainly

but dont we want some type of customer with AA. To raise to 30 as opr suggested, surely thats too much?

Raise more pre flop makes the hand alot easier to play as your "customers" will pay you off with hands like 99 1010 JJ in this spot!

opr

semibluff wrote:

To raise to 30 as opr suggested, surely thats too much?

30 at this point is a pot size bet. I make it a bit less maybe 24 or 26.

Opr

valor

30 is too much, Id make it 22 or so

Ste05

Ye, 30 is to much, we do want customers but we don't want to guarantee 2 customers with completely undefined hands (as in with the smaller bet). It also makes the hand shallower which we want, so it is easier to get it AI on the flop or turn.

opr

You guys are good and can play OOP i can't

Opr

valor

playing aces in a 3 bet pot OOP isnt hard

opr

I would put a few coins in that sarcasm meter Mr V

Opr