Maths p1 (honours) I found it sooo hard!

aislingorourke

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Omg!! I found it sooooooooooo hard..! Everyone in my school did!! :eek: :eek: :eek: It was sooo bad!! so much harder than previous years!

timmywex

i tought it was grand tbh, the only thing i didnt get was the part c on q4, will prob get a bluner mark though cause i just made a little mistake that ruined it all, id say i got 280/290 out of 300

waheyyy

ya it was way harder alright!!! i did part c on question 4 lik 5 times before i finally got it.... i was DELGIHTED!! d only one i think i definetly didnt get was 2 (b)ii about the sum of money being invested at 2%........ did ne1 get dat

aislingorourke

timmywex wrote:

i tought it was grand tbh, the only thing i didnt get was the part c on q4, will prob get a bluner mark though cause i just made a little mistake that ruined it all, id say i got 280/290 out of 300

:eek: 290/300??? You must have doon great!! I did every question but i deffentally didnt do dat good!!
I got on well in honours irish tho!! it was easy!:rolleyes:

highlydebased

It was hard alrite

Nope, didnt get the bit about the interest.

Could anyone do question six? I was like WTF lol

waheyyy

ya i was in a state of panic til i came to 5 and 6!!! nd i calmed down after those cos dey wer ok i thot!!!!

which part of 6, c??

highlydebased

All of six lol. I thought it was crazy. I might have got 2 or 3 out of 50 for that question!!

I was raging when I came out as I had worked so hard for maths. I had a terrible teacher subbing for my original (brilliant) maths teacher. I've been getting grinds since January! I got into a mess then when nothing would work probably. Graphing the straight line in question five didn't want to work for me. I couldn't fix it as I was in such a state!

aislingorourke

Neon-Circles wrote:

It was hard alrite

Nope, didnt get the bit about the interest.

Could anyone do question six? I was like WTF lol

Question 6(c) the one about (k, -k,and 1) i think?? WTF!!:eek: :eek:

waheyyy

u had to put k in the equation as x and d k-1 or watevr in as y!!!

i knew it was going to be harder this year tbh!!! it was 2 easy the last 3!!!

Davidius

I thought it was alright. I don't think I got an A for some small blunders here and there. I didn't know how much time was left so I was in a bit of a rush. Ended up with an extra half hour to look over it. I couldn't do the compound interest question (I experimented with numbers but figured I wasting good time on it) or the one about x km/h. Only copped how to do it now. Not to mention that for one of those questions I made a stupid mistake. I didn't read the whole question and forgot to include the -1 at the end of the equation.

It wasn't really any harder this year. Just a bit different. Paper II coming up and I'm hoping to use it to bump myself up to an A. I'm just less prone to blunder in Paper II.

As for question 6. I was actually suprised. It was relatively easy compared to the rest of the paper for me.

highlydebased

Davidius wrote:

. I couldn't do the compound interest question (I experimented with numbers but figured I wasting good time on it) or the one about x km/h. Only copped how to do it now.

Same lol


Paper two better be a tad easier....or my hopes of passing will be gone...

waheyyy

Davidius wrote:

It wasn't really any harder this year. Just a bit different. Paper II coming up and I'm hoping to use it to bump myself up to an A. I'm just less prone to blunder in Paper II.

it was harder.

FranchisePlayer

I know it was ridiculos some of the stuff was like a riddle like that town A to B question was just a load of ****:mad: :mad: :mad:

Trogdor

I did okay. I'd say, i got a high B or low A, it was way harder though, Q6 was a disaster, although i tried them all out so i probably got a fair few marks. I knew how to do c(ii) with (k,-k and 1) but i needed the answers from part (i) to do it which i couldn't do, was told afterwards it was similtaius equations or something :rolleyes: . With the compound interest one, I found the answer by guessing on the calculator, it was 5,000 but i still couldn't find any way to link the answer to what was given on the page. I wrote down some stuff but it wasn't right, will probably get nothing because of that f**kin hand symbol.

timmywex

how to do the compund interest:

disregard what i posted first, didnt have the question paper to hand, the original invested was actually 5000

aislingorourke

timmywex wrote:

how to do the compund interest:

year 3:
102% 306.04
1% 3.0003921
100% 300.04

year 2:
102% 300.04
1% 2.941568
100% 294.16

year 1
102% 294.16
1% 2.88392156
100% 288.39


think thats it,

I cant remember what i got!! I hope paper 2 is easier!!:o

Conor108

Seems that everyone either loved or hated question 6. I hated it myself, everyone I spoke to found that paper difficult. Looking over the last few years, I was expecting something a lot easier! Just glad we have all weekend to revise paper 2 and bring my grade up...

Davidius

timmywex: 306.04 is the build up of the interest of the investment, isn't it? Meaning it would have to be smaller than the end figure, especially at 2% per annum.

As a side note, as far as I know if the paper is hard then they tend to mark it easier so it balances out with previous years.

zstar43

o.m.g maths was sooooooooo hard!! i couldn't get the first few questions or the last one's!! oh god yeh nobody seems to have got that compound interest question like it looked easy to do but then when you try to do it well.. wish they had put income tax!! i like that!! and o.m.g. did anybody find question 6 impossible?!?! loadsa of people here are saying it was soo easy i sear i got like 11/50!!!!!!!!!!! overall paper 1 was much much harder then other years and i hated the way the questions were worded even the hard modelling was impossible and normally there easy i have 2 a4 pages of attempts on that one!!! irish was easy though thank god!!!

Conor108

So the compound interest was 288? Yay I got that! One of the few things I got right:D I hope paper 2 is easier! The thing about paper 1 being hard though is that it will make you study more for paper 2:cool:

slasher_65

It was really really really hard. After the paper, we did a survey for answeres, and everybody got a different answer for the Ven Diagram, other then four people.
Somebody managed to get a decimal place negitive answer.

timmywex

Davidius wrote:

timmywex: 306.04 is the build up of the interest of the investment, isn't it? Meaning it would have to be smaller than the end figure, especially at 2% per annum.

sorry, didnt have the paper to hand and was trying to remmember the question, just looke dit up, 306.04 is the interest, my bad!! the original invested was therefore 5000, think i got that, i can never remember my answers after an exam!!

Conor108

Hang on!

306.4 was the amount after 3 years of compound interest at 2% per annum. And you had to find the original amount invested. So 306.4 divided by 102 multiplied by 100 would give you the sum after 2 years! Where are you getting 5000? dont tell me i did that wrong:eek:

timmywex

Conor108 wrote:

Hang on!

306.4 was the amount after 3 years of compound interest at 2% per annum. And you had to find the original amount invested. So 306.4 divided by 102 multiplied by 100 would give you the sum after 2 years! Where are you getting 5000? dont tell me i did that wrong:eek:

306.04 was the interest gained after 3 years, it didnt include the original sum, it was just the interest, (i think, i'll just go check...)


i quote from the paper, the exact question:

(ii) �� What sum of money invested at 2% per annum compound interest
would produce interest of €306·04 after three years?

Davidius

Conor108 wrote:

Hang on!

306.4 was the amount after 3 years of compound interest at 2% per annum. And you had to find the original amount invested. So 306.4 divided by 102 multiplied by 100 would give you the sum after 2 years! Where are you getting 5000? dont tell me i did that wrong:eek:

5000 is the correct answer seeing as:

5000*0.02=100+5000=5100
5100*0.02=102+5100=5202
5202*0.02=104.04

100+102+104.04=306.04

I'd love to know how to get it too. =/

Conor108

Oh......crap:(

timmywex

cant remember how i did this now, if i remember, will post it

highlydebased

Did anyone get the distance one? about town A being half way between C and B ...or whatever. It was like a riddle :mad:

Conor108

Yes it was but I got x=52 however its probably wrong

timmywex

bit of a riddle, use distance speed time triangle...i think!! didnt get the right answer, will still get most marks though

Conor108

What did people get for X in the venn diagram? I got 4 but seeing as that worked out to make -1 people own mp3 players, I doubt its right

matdabomb

Compound was easy. Take the 2% add 100 to become 102% then divide by 100 to give you 1.02 then power it to the number of years involved. That was 3 so it was 1.02(Small three in corner).

Do the sum and you get 1.061208 . You multiply this number by 100 to get a percentage and get 106.1208 is original + 306.04 . Original = 100% so divide the 306.04 by 6.1208 and you get 50 which is 1% so multiply by 100 and there you go 5000

highlydebased

I got X as 16.6, I think lol

FranchisePlayer

Neon-Circles wrote:

Did anyone get the distance one? about town A being half way between C and B ...or whatever. It was like a riddle :mad:

Yeah man that is what I said in my previous post it just was so unfair even my dad who is a microbioligist and he got an A in his leaving cert maths said that was a lot more difficult to the ones he had helped me revise in the exam papers we had:D

stevegalway

Neon-Circles wrote:

Did anyone get the distance one? about town A being half way between C and B ...or whatever. It was like a riddle :mad:

ya i got!! it was 60km/hr...its defo right cause i met my grinds teacher in the shop afew hours ago and she asked wat i got for dat question and she said i got it rite so woooooooohhhooooooooooooo. 20 marks in the bag!! every1 thought the paper was hard so the examiners will have to adjust the marking scheme, so dont worry if you didnt do that well.if you attempted them good enuf, u shud get some extra marks!!

waheyyy

i got 60km/hr as well at the very last second of the exam yes

paperglue

omg i found it sooooooooo hard 2 i so failed nobody could do it in my skul:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Joseph

It has been the hardest paper 1 in a long time and they shall mark it easily after the discussions.

I got the last (c) part wrong (blanked) and the (c) part with the towns - never seen anything like that coming up before. Other than that I got most right.

PsychoGirl(+44)

one word-impossible!
i studied so much! an hour a night since Christmas...still found it really hard. half our year came out crying ahaha
paper 2 should be easier, not too much variation the can ask and just learn the theorems and stuff and your grand!

cork*girl

Neon-Circles wrote:

Did anyone get the distance one? about town A being half way between C and B ...or whatever. It was like a riddle :mad:

we got that in ordinary level too :mad: i cudnt do it

paperglue

i hope paper 2 will b easy!!!!!anyone no wat theroms might cum up????????
everyone is learnin no.9 the one with the equilangular sides.... but wat if dey ask pythagrous again its sooooooo long!!!!:mad: :mad:
i hope geography is o.k too!!!!

Joseph

2,4,9

matdabomb

I bet 9 WONT come up. Number 10 will come up beyond belief it wont because of how poorly it was answered last year.

Joseph

Good thing for me then - I know 10 really well and not really 9.

Davidius

If only I understood what theorems people are talking about. I've never gone by any sort of numerical arrangement.

I suppose it doesn't really matter though. I know my theorems well enough but I hope that proof of Pythagoras theorem comes up.

Conor108

matdabomb wrote:

I bet 9 WONT come up. Number 10 will come up beyond belief it wont because of how poorly it was answered last year.

Meh you were half right

matdabomb

Conor108 wrote:

Meh you were half right

LOL close enough. I cant believe the actual theorems we had to prove. I mean common that is 1st year stuff

Conor108

I know i looked at the theorems and was so happy but then when I got to them, I completely blanked and only remember in the last 30 mins! whew, close