Simple Question(Yes, I'm that bad)

gosplan

I've just started a stt.

All players still there, more or less all on starting stack(1,500).

No reads or previous info on anyone and I'm pretty sure no-one has anything on me.

I'm second last to act and get AKs.

Small and big blind are 10/20

First to act limps in. Then a few folds and then the player two down from me makes it 80 to play.

And then I?????

bops

are you in the small blind or the cut-off?

Mr.Plough

usually i repop it to say 200 (would usually raise more but you want to be able to cbet without crippling your stack if he hits). should be just you and him on the flop if he calls.

he'll most likely check after your 3bet and allow you to follow through and take it down with a cbet of around 300 if you miss. if he doesnt go away then i give up and still have a stack of ~1000

assuming your in position.

you know what to do if you hit.


any good?

gosplan

bops wrote:

are you in the small blind or the cut-off?

apollylogies,

I'm two off the button(obviously not second last to act then)

5starpool

I sometimes call, usually raise.

Mr.Plough

gosplan wrote:

apollylogies,

I'm two off the button(obviously not second last to act then)

assuming your in the bb then.

id play it the same though

bops

the hijack i think it's called for some reason!?

anyway do what what mr plough says (maybe make it 220ish) - if he checks the flop bet 330ish if you hit or miss

AK sucks in general gl

valor

250, calling is fine

gosplan

Mr.Plough wrote:

assuming your in the bb then.

id play it the same though

off the button in the other way

not good with all the poker lingo/defs

bops

Mr.Plough wrote:

assuming your in the bb then.

id play it the same though

i doubt it - he wudda just said he's in the bb!!

bops

SB
BB
UTG
UTG+1
MP
MP
MP
Hijack
Cutoff
Button

How's that?

Mr.Plough

i duno i cant read it properly

Mr.Plough

hijack lol. nice

Flushdraw

If its ipoker, jam it all in. AQ or AJ will call you. As long as KJ doesnt call because that hand never loses on ipoker!

If you dont feel this risky, call or repop to 220 is good. A lot of different ways to play AKs early on in a STT and none are necessarily wrong

gosplan

Does the number of times you'd call here increase as the skill level of the table decreases?

i.e. I've a good chance of getting a lot of chips from an idiot with queens or AQ or something on an ace or king high flop?

Or do you just start shoving and hope to double through?

or is there no real difference?

kebabfest

I think sometimes a flat call is good is for the following reasons:
A) If an A hits you'll probably get paid off in a decent sized pot as nobody will put you on AK
In future rounds people will be more wary of your calls.
e.g. "òh sh1t the last time he called he had AK !"
However in general raising with AK is a better as it is a drawing hand and not a made hand.
I dont like the shove (unless you think you're cr@p ) as you could get called by some muppet with a pair of 4s and get busted out.
Also in terms of what has been put in the pot and what you're risking it isnt worth the risk.

bops

gosplan wrote:

Does the number of times you'd call here increase as the skill level of the table decreases?

i.e. I've a good chance of getting a lot of chips from an idiot with queens or AQ or something on an ace or king high flop?

Or do you just start shoving and hope to double through?

or is there no real difference?

any clown can shove with AK, but they can't play it.
shoving against idiots imo is generally bad - you are taking all you edge (if any) away

on the plus side: you get called my AT, 44, KJs by idiots
on the minus side: you often loose the lot when called by the above.

...so against idiots i'd nearly rather the flat call and play the flop with them, it's safer and can be much more profitable in my experience

NeVeR

Dont shove it all in here. As you could lose a race very easily.

I'd re-raise to about 250-300 and normally with good cards a player would call. If it's a bluff they should fold. This way you know where you are if they call. Wait for the flop and see where you are,,

David Michael

gosplan wrote:

I've just started a stt.

All players still there, more or less all on starting stack(1,500).

No reads or previous info on anyone and I'm pretty sure no-one has anything on me.

I'm second last to act and get AKs.

Small and big blind are 10/20

First to act limps in. Then a few folds and then the player two down from me makes it 80 to play.

And then I?????

Re rise to 200-225. Get a feel for what he has.

I read somewhere else..some one called AK the Anna Kournikov. Looks good but wins feck all.

Flushdraw

NeVeR wrote:

Dont shove it all in here. As you could lose a race very easily.

I'd re-raise to about 250-300 and normally with good cards a player would call. If it's a bluff they should fold. This way you know where you are if they call. Wait for the flop and see where you are,,

You could also win a race very easily or be called with a hand you dominate as is often the case in low buyin STT. If you raise to 300 and they call, generally you dont know where you are with AK.

MP calls so pot is 650 providing everyone else folds. If he leads for 350-400 you can go allin or fold. If he checks, you can bet 350-400. You could take it down or he could go allin and you have to fold.

If you hit your A or K you might not get any more action off of the villain holding a lower PP. I'm just saying that theres no single way to play this hand. Depends on what type of player you are, what the tables like, whether you want to make top 3 or just going for the win etc.

To the OP, just experiment with a few different ways to play and see which you feel comfortable with. Generally its a reraise to about 2.5-3 times his raise with AK in a STT when you have position