Final Table bluff hand @ GJP festival

Jayminator

As requested by BCB to post this here goes..

Final table GJP main event 8 left. Blinds 4k 8k

Me in seat 3 on BB. Badger raises in seat 8 ( folded into him ) 3xBB. I flat call raise. 2 players. (Me not prepared to reveal my hold cards so Noel stay stum ya hear)... Oh ok ok i ve 10c Jc (i think but then again maybe not).

Flop 10 J K. I check my 2 pair thinking Brenden with hia AK deffo has some of this and will bet the dangerous board. Badger checks mmm me thinks not AK as board too dangerous to slow play AK.

Turn card A and brings 2 hearts. I check and Badger bets out. This 2 me reveals his AJ or posibly A10. Badger bets 25K I flat call. Pot now 102K.

River card 9, Board now 10 J K A 9. Here I push all in and have Brendan covered by about 100K...........

Can Brendan call for his tourny on that board with his AJ. I think this is as close as I can remember Noel so if I am missing anything feel free to post

TacT

fine, so long as he doesn't have a Q, how certain are you with your read? Is your opponent capable of calling with a lone ace here -- also possibly aware of the fact this is a good spot to bluff and pick up some chips?

ditpoker

if you had the Q would you push the river, makes it look like a bluff, far more likely to be looked up with 2 pair than if you put in a smaller bet i think

AKQJ10

Would he check the flop with AQ?

Norwich Fan Rob

why dont we think he has AQ?

cardshark202

fold turn plz

bops

crazy bluff - he could easliy have a Q here...but!

then again it's a hard bet to call without a Q and the odds are that he hasn't got one - and i think he'd even fold a set here - so fair play to you - at least your balls are in the right place - nice bet hopefully (gulp)

how much is your river push? pot is 100k?

BigCityBanker

as somebody who was watching this hand I thought it was very interesting. I discussed it with Brendan McKenna afterwards also. For me the key to the hand is the turn play.

When Jay checks the turn Brendan bets at the pot - what is his reasoning here for betting at the pot? Ok the backdoor heart draw has popped up but I dont think he is protecting a made straight from backdoor hearts - at least I wouldnt. FWIW i feel his bet is effectively a bluff. I feel that Brendan never bets the Q here as he is losing too much value. With the Q I reckon Brendan checks behind hoping to induce a bluff from Jay on the river. For me Jay reads Brendans turn play very well and has the balls to line up the river bluff - I think this hand gave Jay both the confidence and momentum to go on and secure his high finish.

Many might not aggree but I think Brendan gave his hand away on the turn.

bops

I do agree with you Noel, although I would often bet the turn here with a Q - but then again im "special" and thereofre have a warped view of the world -

i bet here (in pos generally) not to protect my hand against the BD FD mind you - just to confuse you opponent!! also you have forgotten that Jay could have 2 pair here and you're givving him a free card to catch 1 of his 4 outs - i know its a long shot, but with a board like that 2 pair is very possible holding

BuChan

this is a very strange hand. i don't think that someone would always check this turn if they had a Q, i think a lot of people would bet it.

i'm pretty sure that you were bluffing with the best hand here, i think the villian just took a stab at the pot when a scare card came on the turn. he could have anything, he more than likely would have bet the flop with A10 or AJ no? i think the villian is bluffing/semibluffing the turn here or has a small/medium pair.

if i was the villian and i had AAA/KKK/JJJ/101010/AK/AJ/A10 i'd call this river fairly confident you didn't have a Q. then again, i'm not at the final table of these big tournaments am i

BigCityBanker

villian folded AJ after a considerable dwell.

BuChan

wow, he folded AJ faceup? i'm probably wrong but i think that's a bad fold. i wonder why he didn't bet the flop with AJ.......

Norwich Fan Rob

i play AQ exactly the way Brendan played his hand, sometimes.

Tar.Aldarion

BuChan wrote:

wow, he folded AJ faceup? i'm probably wrong but i think that's a bad fold. i wonder why he didn't bet the flop with AJ.......

A single queen beats him, not too bad like.

BuChan

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

A single queen beats him, not too bad like.

i don't think that a Q plays the hand this way.

Tar.Aldarion

He might have put him on Qsomething and thought(depending on his stack) it was not worth being wrong and calling.

BigCityBanker

BuChan wrote:

i don't think that a Q plays the hand this way.

I dont think Brendan plays a Q the way he did - and I think thats the key to the hand.

BobSloane

Great bluff. Took a lot of heart. Would probably not have worked in limit holdem!
Funny how different the hand may have developed if he had continuation bet the flop. He would have surely called a moderate check-raise in position..?

valor

Betting the turn here with AJ is pretty stupid

BuChan

valor wrote:

Betting the turn here with AJ is pretty stupid

i agree, i really think he should have bet the flop. after checking the flop he should definitely check the turn. i don't know how you put him on AJ A10 so easily jay.

BigCityBanker

BobSloane wrote:

Funny how different the hand may have developed if he had continuation bet the flop.

or if he hadnt bet the turn.

valor wrote:

Betting the turn here with AJ is pretty stupid

my sentiments exactly and thats why i think he lost the hand. If Brendan checks behind on the turn there is no way Jay bluffs the river.

5starpool

I am far from a fan of this hand, strange play all round it seems to me.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

BigCityBanker wrote:

I dont think Brendan plays a Q the way he did - and I think thats the key to the hand.

Having played with Brendan regurlarly i know he does not play a Q like this he is a cunning cnut:)

ianmc38

Saying someone would check with a queen to induce a bluff is stupid. I'd almost always bet the turn with a queen.

bottom feeder

BigCityBanker wrote:

I dont think Brendan plays a Q the way he did - and I think thats the key to the hand.

Noel if i had AQ in Brendan's position here, i would deffo check the flop [with the nuts], hope jay hits something and bets on the turn - as it happens Jay didn't bet, if checked into me again on the turn im always betting / not letting him hit any miracle flushes.....

IMO Brendan could easily have AQ here....

mdwexford

i agree, i definitely bet the turn with a Q.

why do you think betting the turn with AJ here is bad Valor??

earthworms

I agree with Valor i hate betting the turn with A J. There's a one card str8 out there. What you gettin called by? Keep the pot smallish and see if you wanna call a bet on the river. I'd always check this turn