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Art History Predictions

  • 04-06-2007 1:45pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11


    Hi! i'm new here!!!!
    i'd really appreciate if u cud post wat u think is going 2 come up in the art history paper!
    thanks a mill!!!:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    Art historys pretty Easy to predict. The thing you can 99.99999% be sure of is that the bronze age will come up. Its been alternating between the bronze age and newgrange since the start of the art history exams which was somtime in the 1920's, last year was new grange so unless they do a massive overhaul to there thinking youd be safe learning the bronze age only.

    Basicly know the bronze age inside out, an irish artist a european artist and the photograph question is all your opinion so be opinated.

    Im personally learning bacon, da vinci and im doing the question on an art exhitbit i went to which to my knowlege comes up pretty much EVERY year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭sunflowerz


    Bronze age, surrealism and impressionism, gallery


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 Groovy


    thanks 4 dat! huge help!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Splinkk


    Bronze age or Stone Crosses for Irish history
    Romanesque/Gothic for European
    Then the design is handy, but Gallery is always there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    Stone crosses? ive never even heard of that question coming up. What is it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭kisaragi


    Patricide wrote:
    Stone crosses? ive never even heard of that question coming up. What is it?

    Stone crosses is part of early christian Ireland, Fahan Mura slab etc up to all the high crosses (haven't revised it in months so that's a vague overview...)

    Personally I'm praying that Louis Le Brocquy (90th birthday and first living artist to be in the national gallery) and Robert Ballagh (can't remember why but almost certain to come up) come up for Irish history, I HATE everything else.

    Early Rennaissance would be nice for European.

    Gallery visit is always on General appreciation.

    Actually you're GARAUNTEED to get a question on Georgian/Neo-classical architecture in the Irish section and on Romanesque/Gothic cathedrals in the European. These are the only garaunteed things so if you must study just one topic, study these inside out.

    I have another question, if you write about an artist, say Robert Ballagh, for the Irish section, is it bad to then write about a visit you made to his exhibition? Since the focus goes from paintings -) gallery layout etc, I think it's ok, but I'm not sure... Any ideas?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭analyse this


    What, in God's name, are you doing up so early?!!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭analyse this


    I have another question, if you write about an artist, say Robert Ballagh, for the Irish section, is it bad to then write about a visit you made to his exhibition? Since the focus goes from paintings -) gallery layout etc, I think it's ok, but I'm not sure... Any ideas?

    As long as you don't stray from the question and start talking about the layout of the exhibition I don’t see a problem. In fact, I would think the examiner would welcome your personal experience with his work. You could discuss the direct emotions it had on you etc. instead of the usual regurgitation of rubbish that he/she is subjected to.

    We have only touched the exhibition question so I'm still kind of weary about it. Did you do film appreciation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭eoiner


    does anyone have an idea as for deffinate what european artists will come up, or in the section where it asks you to choose a sort of theme, does anyone know what they could be, i need help with the european


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 280 ✭✭SamHamilton


    Romanesque and Gothic always comes up and saying that you predict Romanesque and Gothic will come up means nothing!:D

    What aspects do you think will come up in the Romanesque and Gothic section? I hope to God it's Romanesque-heavy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭eoiner


    thanks but what artists do you tink are coming up, e.g michelangelo
    donatello, bernini, massacio........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 originalcupcake


    im thinking:

    sec1 la tene / bronze age

    sec2: romanesque sculpture

    sec 3: hopefully museum/gallery visit/ design q


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    usually theres an option for anything really, we just studied bacon da vinci a gallery trip and the bronze age, we found that that was enough for every paper in the last 10 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭eoiner


    as i have said, does anyone know the names of any artists, like michelanglo...
    or the possible themes that could come up in the option question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭kisaragi


    As long as you don't stray from the question and start talking about the layout of the exhibition I don’t see a problem. In fact, I would think the examiner would welcome your personal experience with his work. You could discuss the direct emotions it had on you etc. instead of the usual regurgitation of rubbish that he/she is subjected to.

    We have only touched the exhibition question so I'm still kind of weary about it. Did you do film appreciation?

    Haha no I mean if you write about the artist and his work for the irish section. And then, for your general appreciation section you do the gallery visit.. to his gallery :D I did it in the mocks and the teacher didn't mark me down and it doesn't say anywhere you shouldn't.. but I'm still wary.

    And yeah we did film appreciation, but I'm not going to bother with it because they could ask a specific film and then you're screwed... The other easy question is usually the design one, but we never did that, I just looked at them and assumed they're easy haha. But I wrote a 50/50 question for my mocks on a gallery visit so I'm going to stick with that if I can :)

    And eonir, as far as I know it's pretty much impossible to predict specific artists for the European section. There's not that many... off the top of my head you could learn - Mantegna, Giotto, Massaccio, Da Vinci, Michaelangelo, Bernini, Rubens, Renoir and say Monet. And there you have about 500 years of artists covered :)

    I'll do Giotto and Brunelleschi, Bernini and maybe Da Vinci and then look over Romanesque and Gothic since I already have those well established in my head. It's up to you and and how much of a risk you want to take.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭LilyPool


    My art teacher never gave us any sample answers so i was just wondering if anyone knew where i could get some or if anyone wanted to share theirs.
    I'm really stuck for art history and while i was flicking through the exam papers one question asked:"Describe and discuss the characteristics of Gothic sculpture and its relationship to the architecture of the period.
    Could someone please explain what is meant by "its relationship to the [I]architecture of the period."[/I] Please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 Fjoem


    Neo classical/ palladian architecture
    Picasso
    Gallery exhibition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭LilyPool


    im thinking:

    sec1 la tene / bronze age

    sec2: romanesque sculpture

    sec 3: hopefully museum/gallery visit/ design q
    Why do you think these will come up? I'm hoping that they will but I just wanted to know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭eoiner


    what about the sort of themes question e.g

    1. a painting depicting a meal
    2. depicting sea
    3. portrait


    doea anyone see any pattern in these ones, help im screwed for european section


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    well you can always fit soomthing into things like them.

    Meal = last supper
    depicting sea- announciation(has a harbour in the backround)
    portrait - mona lisa.

    Just be creative man.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭eoiner


    Patricide wrote:
    well you can always fit soomthing into things like them.

    Meal = last supper
    depicting sea- announciation(has a harbour in the backround)
    portrait - mona lisa.

    Just be creative man.

    yeh, but i didnt do very many of those artists, all i have done are...

    michealngelo
    bernini
    j.m.william.turner
    masacio
    de bondone

    and i have about 6 hours left to know one of them really well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭kisaragi


    eoiner wrote:
    yeh, but i didnt do very many of those artists, all i have done are...

    michealngelo
    bernini
    j.m.william.turner
    masacio
    de bondone

    and i have about 6 hours left to know one of them really well

    You can't 100% predict it... wouldn't be much of an exam otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭eoiner


    yeh but can you slim down the chances with only a few hours left


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 SuZyQ!


    I am soo freacked over the art I failed it in de mocks because I misread a question and did one question wrong :( I really wish newgrange woz cumin up but I no bronze age will prob cum up i am doing the exhibition question but then for european does any1 tink the quttrocento will cum up :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 debz929292


    gallery question? what the hell is that? iv never seen the exam papers because they dont sell them in the shops.. and i dont remember it on the mocks? my teacher is a bit dosey:rolleyes: anyone care to explain?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭kisaragi


    debz929292 wrote:
    gallery question? what the hell is that? iv never seen the exam papers because they dont sell them in the shops.. and i dont remember it on the mocks? my teacher is a bit dosey:rolleyes: anyone care to explain?:confused:

    Basically you just talk about a gallery visit. The type of lighting they used, how info was displayed, talk about a work you enjoyed etc.

    You can get all the exam papers at http://www.examintations.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 196 ✭✭kurisu


    in the art history and apreciation can we draw a work where talking about? my teacher keeps suggesting that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Be@st


    Bronze Age I'd put my money on, hope Baroque Art makes a big show on the paper, I know it inside out. Gallery Visit is very likely to come up, as last year a Gallery Leaflet question showed.
    I'm learning these off in this order...
    -> Bronze Age(throughly) + Crosses(briefly)
    -> Baroque Art(throughly) + Romanticism(throughly) + Renaissance(throughly)
    -> Gallery Visit(easy, general knowledge):D

    Oh yeah, and yes, draw as much as you can to illustrate what you're talking about. A lot of the overall marks go for illustration, not many realise that though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭analyse this


    Be@st wrote:

    Oh yeah, and yes, draw as much as you can to illustrate what you're talking about. A lot of the overall marks go for illustration, not many realise that though.

    Errr...no they don't. For a 50 mark question an avergae of ten marks is allocated to illustrations.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Be@st


    Wouldn't you be annoyed if you were 10marks off getting an extra few points to get into college, I deem any amount of marks, be in 10 or otherwise, important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 debz929292


    kisaragi wrote:
    Basically you just talk about a gallery visit. The type of lighting they used, how info was displayed, talk about a work you enjoyed etc.

    You can get all the exam papers at http://www.examintations.ie
    thanks for that!:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭analyse this


    Yes, but I was highlighting the fact that the marks allocated for illustrations is only 20% (and a lot of the time its closer to 10%) of the overall marks. To say they represent a lot of the overall marks is misleading and a common misconception. I know loads of people who have spent 50% of their exams perfectly recreating the Mona Lisa only to realise they got 5 marks for it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭kisaragi


    It's really important to draw sketches to illustrate your points. I always draw and label diagrams to show what I'm talking about. BUT they don't have to be perfect at all, it's a written exam not a drawing one :) Most important things are the correct placement of figures and correct shape. No need to colour it etc...

    Always do diagrams :) I'm sure that even if they're only worth 10 marks themselves, helping to illustrate something might add marks, you know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Be@st


    You can get a lot of marks considering perhaps the little work in sketching out an illustration. Anyway, for honors level, know Bronze Age & Crosses. Ordinary, not so sure, but I believe Newgrange came up last year for you guys(not too sure, heard through word of mouth.) And yep, any descriptive point you make in relation to piece of work, draw a sketch to support yourself. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭-TK^Creator


    Unsure as to this, which is ridiculous considering it's 5 hours away, but 3 questions? 1 Irish, 1 Euro, and 1 most likely regarding a gallery visit, no?

    Don't hate, and thank you in advance.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭analyse this


    well like ONE of the appreciation questions may be a gallery question. And yes you have ot do three questions...one from each section. I'm so pissed off!! Went in at nine for my art exam only to realise it is on at two!!:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭-TK^Creator


    Praying for Picasso , Romanesque Gothic Cathedrals for euro.
    Bronze Age I assume is Irish question, thank you previous predictions if it comes up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭kisaragi


    Bronze Age is horrible... My essay for it is 7 pages... how the hell can you memorize that and reproduce it in about 4 pages in 40 minutes??? I'm praying Louis le Brocquy and Robert Ballagh... if they don't come up I'm litterally screwed haha... Might be able to do a crosses question... guess I'll read through the bronze age at least.

    Come on Massacio, Bernini or Botticelli for European...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭Agri_trust


    Im hoping for the bronze age I know it inside out. Going to go learn Le tene in a minute just incase.

    If Caravaggio doesnt come up as a question or in the quick pick question im screwed.

    Trying to remember all the things he falls under.

    -Beroque
    -Post Renissance
    -Italian
    -Painting of a meal or feast
    -Revolutionary
    -Biblical painting
    -Chiascuro
    -Tenelism
    -Dreamer

    Can anyone else add to that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 280 ✭✭SamHamilton


    Bronze Age is horrible... My essay for it is 7 pages... how the hell can you memorize that and reproduce it in about 4 pages in 40 minutes???

    Your essay? You shouldn't learn off an essay. Know the important points about the history side of it and know a few objects and about five points about each of them. be able to draw them (and label them) and you have all the information you need there.

    Make sure you answer THE QUESTION and don't use your essay if a lot of it is irrelevant.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 originalcupcake


    LilyPool wrote:
    Why do you think these will come up? I'm hoping that they will but I just wanted to know.

    just from analysing the papers thats just what i think is going to come up...i spose wel see soon enough anyway!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭kisaragi


    Your essay? You shouldn't learn off an essay. Know the important points about the history side of it and know a few objects and about five points about each of them. be able to draw them (and label them) and you have all the information you need there.

    Make sure you answer THE QUESTION and don't use your essay if a lot of it is irrelevant.

    I don't learn off essays word for word, but say I have an essay on Da Vinci in which I've described 2 paintings, well if I know more or less what I said and know how to draw the paintings then I can adapt that to whatever the question is, you know? Plus I find that reading through essays I've already written is much better than going through the book since they're much more concise and I can note all the points that got a "tick" etc...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Splinkk


    Right
    Have bronze age, and romanesque off. And know gothic fairly well.
    Gallery question is pretty much on the spot stuff, just knowing the layout and all that jazz.

    Im afraid this exam will bring my practical down though =(


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