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Conjure a Demon

  • 03-06-2007 12:12AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭


    I'd like to conjure a Demon but have no idea where to start, any pointers would be greatly appreciated !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    First off I'd like to know what you mean by both "conjour" & "Demon"?

    Or more importantly ..... why do you want to do this?


    *Edit: Actually I should add that i don't think you'll find what you are looking for here. Try looking around some occult websites, though don't expect to get much help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    by conjure I mean to call into being, by Demon I mean an evil spirit, someone like pinhead would be good, I know he is a fictional character but if I managed to conjure up a real Demon of his ilk I would be happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Ok I know I'll regret going into this but why would you want to do this (presuming it can be done) and for what purpose?



    Knowing you are not some 15 year old emo I have to presume this is some sort of trolly/spamming thread? Sure could be fun anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    Evil forces and more prone than good ones to dabble in our world, if I conjure a Demon I'd like to see what I can get out of It.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    First off spell it 'daemon' it's far more esoteric sounding.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭ZygOte


    MooseJam wrote:
    I'd like to conjure a Demon but have no idea where to start, any pointers would be greatly appreciated !

    probably time to stop drinking, about an hour ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    No one in their right mind would want to summon a daemon... so either he's not in his right mind, or he's trolling... failing that he's an idiot. There's just some things you don't do, and summoning daemons is one of them, especially when you don't know what you're doing. I shudder to think what would happen if one were summoned to be honest. There's enough bad stuff going on in the world without adding more bad stuff to it!

    And regarding this:
    MooseJam wrote:
    Evil forces and more prone than good ones to dabble in our world, if I conjure a Demon I'd like to see what I can get out of It.

    What you can get out of it? It'll more than likely get something out of you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    No one in their right mind would want to summon a daemon... so either he's not in his right mind, or he's trolling... failing that he's an idiot.

    I don't think personal insults are nessecery (always spell that wrong).
    There's just some things you don't do, and summoning daemons is one of them, especially when you don't know what you're doing. I shudder to think what would happen if one were summoned to be honest. There's enough bad stuff going on in the world without adding more bad stuff to it!
    What you can get out of it? It'll more than likely get something out of you!

    For there to be any real danger to moosejam we'd first have to presume daemons are real? What are they? Has anyone here ever experienced one? Or will it be all "we'll I haven't seen one but a friend I met on the internet did" .... moosejam could well find the information he is looking for on the net but with nothing to say they exist what danger is he in other than if a conjouring ritual suggests he harms himself or someone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Do we still get banned for reporting a thread a Troll? Anyway I dont think the paranormal forum should go the way of the Occult and a mod should prob lock the thread. My 2c

    Is that backseat modding or bareback modding, I never can remember.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    Dont know if daemons exist but to conjure a nasty entity even is a very bad idea. Assuming that you are actually thinking of doing this and Even if you do manage to summon one what makes you think you could control it to do your biding? Why would you want something nasty in your life? If its danger your looking for why not go down a dark alley unarmed at night where you know nasty people (alive and kicking)will be and see just how much control you actually have over anything/one nasty. Or is this a whole revenage issue?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    MooseJam wrote:
    Evil forces and more prone than good ones to dabble in our world, if I conjure a Demon I'd like to see what I can get out of It.
    If your conception of what demons are like is simply that they are "evil", or even necessarily evil at all - then you certainly don't know what you're asking for.

    Either way, this is certainly not the right forum to be asking, nor, for that matter, is the Paganism forum. Absolutely no offense intended to the pagans (not that I imagine any pagan would be offended at the accusation that they don't involve themselves with demons) but it simply isn't part of what they do. There isn't enough of a demand for the kind of magic you are looking for - if, indeed, you know what you are looking for - on this site.

    You might try the following sites: occultforums.com, or, more locally, occultireland.
    The latter isn't particularly lively, and the former presumes certain level of knowledge. I would recommend doing some reading even before asking questions on such sites - and I would recommend this text.

    To others - I don't think there is any reason to believe that this person is a troll, and don't be too quick to dismiss evocation as a fruitful spiritual exercise. Goethe and Marlow are not the best authorities on the subject.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    I don't think it's terribly dangerous, I will be trying this with like minded people so if it does appear to be going badly I will have someone watching my back. If it's successfull it's proof that there is more than just this physical reality and there could be so much to learn about the afterlife and even about life, just think of all the questions It could answer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    MooseJam wrote:
    I don't think it's terribly dangerous, I will be trying this with like minded people so if it does appear to be going badly I will have someone watching my back. If it's successfull it's proof that there is more than just this physical reality and there could be so much to learn about the afterlife and even about life, just think of all the questions It could answer.
    No really. Do some reading first. It's not easy to do, and it most certainly can go horribly wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    MooseJam wrote:
    If it's successfull it's proof that there is more than just this physical reality and there could be so much to learn about the afterlife and even about life, just think of all the questions It could answer.

    Lets presume its a successful venture and you manage to do this, how is it proof for anyone other than those that experience it? Millions of people have experienced poltergeist activity, apparitions, spirits etc but personal experience and subjective evidence is not proof for the masses.

    If it was a question of conjouring up a daemon (like the spelling mf? ;)) and that being proof then if it doesn't work for you is that alll the proof you need that its all nonsense?

    Sapien you are very right (iom) that this probably isn't the place for this discussion but some might think this is a troll because of previous experience on here, be that with the OP or similar threads. Personally I don't think it matters if its a troll or not - its an interesting view of things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    6th wrote:
    Lets presume its a successful venture and you manage to do this, how is it proof for anyone other than those that experience it?

    I'll just looking for proof for me, I'm not trying to convert the world :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    moosejam, I might get a slap for suggesting it but sure why not just go with a ouija board? (Am not suggesting it but rather wondering why not choose a well know device for contacting questionable energies).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    MooseJam wrote:
    I'll just looking for proof for me, I'm not trying to convert the world :)

    If its just proof for you then why pick the calibre of entity that you have?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    6th wrote:
    If its just proof for you then why pick the calibre of entity that you have?

    for the excitement element, the wow factor . A Ouija board is a good idea, I might give that a try and see how I get on, thanks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Sure while you're at it why not look up things like "bloody mary" etc? Seriously, don't listen to me when I'm in this frame of mind!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    Okay, I admit I was harsh in my judgement earlier and I apoligise for this, but I really regard summoning a daemon with little to no prior experience equivelent to trying to ride a superbike when you can just about use a bicycle! That said, I imagine even those with the experience tend to avoid summoning them as well, as by the time you learn all about them and stuff, you realise that they're not really the easiest entities to deal with, and that's just the low-level ones!

    I actually read a personal account of an encounter with a daemon in a book, which I've misplaced at the moment, and even though the daemon in question was of a low level, it was still fairly difficult for him to deal with.

    And personally speaking, the only daemons I want to dabble with in any way shape or form are IRC daemons.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    MooseJam wrote:
    I'd like to conjure a Demon but have no idea where to start, any pointers would be greatly appreciated !


    15 cans of dutch gold. And 2 bottles of cough medicine. You can conjur up anything you want. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    MooseJam wrote:
    I'd like to conjure a Demon but have no idea where to start, any pointers would be greatly appreciated !

    I would say that you start by taking the key of Solomon and doing what ever research it takes for you to understand it and mastering the lesser banishing ritual of the pentacle; then when you are ready just before you start in a location where you will not effect local people of wild life,
    ( the sea bed with the tide out at night is good ) make sure to kiss your arse and sanity good by.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    Thaedydal wrote:
    I would say that you start by taking the key of Solomon and doing what ever research it takes for you to understand it and mastering the lesser banishing ritual of the pentacle; then when you are ready just before you start in a location where you will not effect local people of wild life,
    ( the sea bed with the tide out at night is good ) make sure to kiss your arse and sanity good by.

    That key of Solomon is interesting stuff, I assume lots of people have tried it before, especially with it being on the internet :) , have you heard of anyone having any success with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,044 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭MooseJam


    ok thx :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭solas


    thought I might make a suggestion seeing as the world is briming with enough carcinogenic material as is, why not try conjuring forces for the betterment of humanity (or something the opposite of demonic). I'd like to see some of that for a change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭dib


    MooseJam wrote:
    so if it does appear to be going badly I will have someone watching my back.

    Son. It's not your back you should be worried about. If this is your "bag" then I recommend a thorough study of Enochian "Magick" and ritual. You wouldn't be the first to presume you can exert your inner "Godliness" over whatever force you seek to control. I think you will learn some harsh lessons and I for one honestly hope you do. Arrogance like yours needs to be dispelled as soon as possible.

    The word for the day is "humility". Please, for your own sake and the sake of those that care for you, honestly appraise your position in the grand scheme of things and KNOW that you cannot hope to bend these forces to your "will".

    That is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Can anyone link to anything conclusive where someone has been harmed by a demon?

    If not then I find it hard to swallow that so many people can be so sure its a suicidal proposition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    I would say it would be very hard to impossible to come up with anything conclusive to where it could be proven that a demon was the cause of the damage any more than it can be proven that an angel saved someone. That said Moosjam is looking to get in contact with something that is in his terms "evil" so I am asuming that he means bad ass or menacing to get what ever answers he and his friends are seeking. why ? seriously why would anyone want to seek out something of this nature. It is a very interesting topic and I am sure he is not alone trying out the darker side, and with all the information that can be gotten on such entities and most of it retaining to the distruction they do, I at least find it interesting/good that he is not just sallowing that information up to be all true.

    The question for me still remains "Why put your sanity or people around you you care about at risk seeking something you deem evil? Lack of considering the whole situation and not really understanding the task at hand or down right selfish comes to mind.

    You've been given some good advice Moosejam in other replies, study them and gain a respect for the knowledge you find first for yourself be it good or evil before you go off and just try what you are told on the internet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    solas wrote:
    thought I might make a suggestion seeing as the world is briming with enough carcinogenic material as is, why not try conjuring forces for the betterment of humanity (or something the opposite of demonic). I'd like to see some of that for a change.

    Thats just not Hollywood darling, not Hollywood at all ;)


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