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Horrible river card, OOP and deep (0.5/1)

  • 30-05-2007 10:52am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭


    Blinds 0.5/1

    Villan $167 Button
    SB $69
    BB $84
    UTG folded
    UTG +1 posted a SB and called
    Hero $208 posted a SB and called KcTc

    Pot PF is $5
    Flop is JhQh9c

    UTG bets $1
    Hero raises to $4
    Button reraises to $7
    Hero reraises to $18
    UTG folds and Button calls

    Turn is 6s, pot is $50
    Hero bets $30, Button calls

    River 9h, pot $110

    What is my move now?
    Betting seems bad to me as I am only likely to get called by a better hand, if I check and he bets what should I be willing to call?
    Edited to say better hand instead of worse!!
    Not a lot of info on the villan except he called down a flush draw on me before with 3/4 pot size bets by me. No stats either as I am playing on my work laptop so no PT and sorry about the HH


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭bops


    yuk! what a sick card

    either check/call or bet a blocker/value bet of say $40 and fold to a reraise

    i think check/call is probly better coz you will probably price yourself in to the the AI

    If you push will he fold a flush?

    yuk again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭sikes


    Id bet near pot on the turn, now i definately check.

    Id check/fold against most villains.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    You know that he is prone to calling you down with a FD, with that in mind make it $25 with your RR on the flop, then bet full pot or v v close to it on the turn. You want to punish him for his mistakes and reduced his implied odds if you were to pay him off when he hits.

    If he is prone to calling with draws then I think the FD only makes up part of his range here - he may well have a 10 and be looking for a K or 8 to fill his straight.

    I think I prefer to Bet fold. Perhaps somewhere around $50. This is probably the wrong option so im willing to listen to why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭digiman


    I think I prefer to Bet fold. Perhaps somewhere around $50. This is probably the wrong option so im willing to listen to why.

    I think this is the wrong option. If I bet $50 3 things can happen:
    He folds: Good
    He calls: Usually bad, he may call with a small flush or A high thinking I've filled a house.
    He reraises allin, its about $60 more for me to call into a pot of about $310, would probably be silly to fold here then.

    I think check calling a bet of up to $50 is much better than betting $50


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    check fold - it would be easier if your bet sizes were better tho.

    4 bet [$25] more on the flop and bet more on the turn


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭digiman


    valor wrote:
    check fold - it would be easier if your bet sizes were better tho.

    The biggest weakness in my cash game i think is this, my bet can be really bad when I have a strong had.
    How transparent is my hand do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    its not that your hand is transparent, its that you arent extracting enough value/protecting your hand on this drawy ass board


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭digiman


    Ah yeah, I realise that I am giving him too close to the odds he needs to call here with a flush draw.
    What I mean is say that the Villan is really good, in this case I dont think he is even good, but lets say he is. He has me on KT and knows I hate this river card, and he has missed his draw or has QJ, this would be a good spot for him to bet to me if I check which is why BCBs point of putting a blocker bet out there is good in this case only which I guess could make up a bit of the villans hand here. He is quite likely to call me down here with this hand knowing that if he fills he is likely to stack me.

    So if you were the very good Villan would you have me on KT in this spot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭digiman


    So I checked and he also checked and mucked his QTo, was quite surprised how badly he played this and what he was thinking I could have had but there you go.


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