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research on the Paranormal Lurking Hooded Beings

  • 30-05-2007 12:35am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭


    This where we can put all are researchs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Perhaps you could explain what you're hoping for a little better?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    Zillah wrote:
    Perhaps you could explain what you're hoping for a little better?

    I'm inclined to agree with this. There hasn't been much in the way of proper discussion on this matter at all, and we weren't really aware of any such research going on. And from an academic standpoint, I don't find this to be research as it's quite vague, plus you haven't cited your sources as to where you got this "35%" figure from. Not to put you doin in any way, but I'd regard this as more a personal view, especially with the fact that you speak in the first person, which means there's going to be a degree of bias involved, although I concede that research papers may also be conducted in the first person. That said however, when I was taught to write academically, I was taught to write in the 3rd person and cite my sources with Harvard Referencing.

    Research does need to be unbiased, and also needs to have citeable (and credible!) sources, as unless you're someone of note, i.e.: an authority on the subject matter you're researching then you're not really going to be taken very seriously. When I read your 'research', I did find it lacking in areas, such as grammar usage and spelling. If you're doing research, then your report must read easily, and also in a relatively formal manner. Explaining the technical terms in a report is also a must, although ideally you'd try to avoid as much as the tehnicalities as possible, so anyone could read the report/essay.

    I could more than likely go on and on about academic writing, but I'll end it here, and say that your report reads more like a personal account, rather than an actual essay/report. I know you said that it wasn't very detailed, but frankly I failed to see many details, if any, at all.

    But yeah, that's my take on it... :|


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    I could more than likely go on and on about academic writing, but I'll end it here, and say that your report reads more like a personal account, rather than an actual essay/report. I know you said that it wasn't very detailed, but frankly I failed to see many details, if any, at all.

    I kinda cut through all that and I thought I'd just skip to the heart of what (s)he wants from all this in general.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭iamhunted


    from reading the research i would suggest nitefox is just trying open some dialogue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Hi nitefox.

    We have discussed this or something similar before alright, I think we referred to it as the Sandyman Port Man as in the man who kids see out of the corner of their eyes, they could be added to your research too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    Zillah wrote:
    I kinda cut through all that and I thought I'd just skip to the heart of what (s)he wants from all this in general.

    *nods* I guess I'm just anal about the term 'research' because I've been engaged in a fair bit of it over the past couple of years now (with more to come) and have been told that you must write in this way (3rd person, objectively and not subjectively) and you must reference your work. Admittedly though, I once wrote an essay comparing and contrasting 3 games genres without any references, save for referencing the pictures, just to see if I could actually write anything without using references, and I successfully completed that task and got a 2:1 (63%) for it as well. Now, if I had referenced my work, I'd have scored much higher, this I admit, but it was an exercise in seeing if I could put forward a strong case without drawing from any written references, while I was able to do so, as my first year doesn't affect my degree, so yeah.

    But enough of this... I didn't really understand why the report needed a separate file, as it could have easily been copied and pasted here as well, but again I digress. My main point is I'm afraid that I didn't really fully understand the report all that well, and honestly it brought up more answers than questions. Using percentages is an iffy business too, I find as if you're going to use them, you need to make sure the percentages are verifiable because otherwise someone can call you on them, which is another reason reports most likely to be written a certain way, so your research is made watertight and so people can't poke holes in your argument.

    I do think however think that a proper discussion would have been the way to go first, then the research should have taken place after determing what the report requires, but like I said, I'm really anal about report writing at the moment, so I'm going to be terribly pedantic about the concept of a report.

    Edit: And I have got to stop typing verbal inflictions in my writing... >.>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    If fairness nitefox got in and wrote what he has seen to be the case from reading posts on here. Reading the thousands of posts on here is research especially seeing as the type of phenomenon he has choosen to discuss is one which only presents itself through purely anecdotal and seemingly personal experiences.
    *nods* I guess I'm just anal about the term 'research' because I've been engaged in a fair bit of it over the past couple of years now (with more to come) and have been told that you must write in this way (3rd person, objectively and not subjectively).............


    ............I'm really anal about report writing at the moment, so I'm going to be terribly pedantic about the concept of a report.

    Maybe we will get a better idea of what he means when he is back on but I really don't think there is any benefit to anyone to pull his report apart with regards to how it should be done - especially seeing as you yourself stormkeeper haven't posted a numerous amount or "reports" you say you have from previous Investigations.

    Some people do it and some people talk about doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭nitefox


    Hi iamhunted and 6th how are ye and everybody?. One it was my First one Research so it is not going be a good one but after whille i will get better. 2nd what i want is to just trying open some dialogue on this and other topic's and other peoples research's, and i was looking at posts on here on that topic and where i got 35% was from the posts that people wrote that belief that the Hooded Beings are real some people said that they where just imation or they just make it up so from the people that saw these Hooded Beings belief it and i got that 35% from them ok. Last thing in my research or report or whatever people want to call it, it said at the end I know it is not a detail one but it my first one and I was not investigating it as case so maybe down line sometime I will do a better one hope ye enjoy it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    It must have taken you some time to go through the threads etc nitefox to get the information you are looking at, so fair play, dont think I'd have the patience to do it. I have a question though and it might be a silly one but I dont know if your asking people if they have seen or experienced a hooded spirit and their take on it or if your looking for a more debated approach or what information they may have come up with in their own research or all of the above?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    im horribly confused


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Grimes wrote:
    im horribly confused

    Welcome! I've started an utterly bemused table over in the corner. Beer?
    nitefox wrote:
    One it was my First one Research so it is not going be a good one but after whille i will get better.

    Yup, and a key part of getting better is knowing where you went wrong last time, no? I think you need a little more structure;

    What is the purpose of the report? Is it to 1) Record an account of the discussion that happened, 2) Record an account of the phenomenon itself, 3) Analyse the phenomenon, suggesting causes and noting common features etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭nitefox


    kshiel wrote:
    It must have taken you some time to go through the threads etc nitefox to get the information you are looking at, so fair play, dont think I'd have the patience to do it. I have a question though and it might be a silly one but I dont know if your asking people if they have seen or experienced a hooded spirit and their take on it or if your looking for a more debated approach or what information they may have come up with in their own research or all of the above?
    Zillah wrote:
    Yup, and a key part of getting better is knowing where you went wrong last time, no? I think you need a little more structure; What is the purpose of the report? Is it to 1) Record an account of the discussion that happened, 2) Record an account of the phenomenon itself, 3) Analyse the phenomenon, suggesting causes and noting common features etc.

    Hi Kshiel and Zillah and everybody how are ye?. Record an account of the discussion that happened. anyway this thread is about any body's report or research or just talk about them, anyway any topic i put up is always something worng with it and anybody can put anything and people say noting about it. anyway i have tried do bring something up that we can all talk about people can but up there own reports or research on any topic that's on the paranormal. hopfully now people will go on the topic and not look into the way it is done or if it's report or research is done this way no it is not done this way it is not report or research and it did take me a long time look up all the post's on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    I think this ghost village radio show is about this subject, i will listen to it on the way home tomorrow.

    Shadow People

    http://www.ghostvillage.com/resources/2007/gc_07112007.shtml


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭Buttons_sb


    Grimes wrote:
    im horribly confused
    Yeh so am I, all the posts are to long for me to read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Buttons_sb wrote:
    Yeh so am I, all the posts are to long for me to read.


    One must wonder why you bother with Boards.ie at all...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Zillah wrote:
    One must wonder why you bother with Boards.ie at all...


    Because most threads make sense... smartass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭ladybirdirl


    Nitefox,

    first off, well done on reading all through the threads.

    I don't think Stormkeeper meant any offence - it is usual that when doing any sort of scientific writing you speak in the 3rd person and you stay 'detached' we'll say.

    Having said that, it's a very good attempt and if it's interesting for you then it's appropiate to discuss.

    Good luck with it. It's not an area that personally I would find interesting but this is a public forum. Ideally what would you like to get from this?

    Don't mind the stuff that's been passed around about what does this mean and clarify that etc, other posters being pedantic do little for the forum imo


    Ladybird


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭stormkeeper


    I don't think Stormkeeper meant any offence - it is usual that when doing any sort of scientific writing you speak in the 3rd person and you stay 'detached' we'll say.

    That's exactly what I meant, although I have a tendancy to talk in circles, which is something I've never been able to break out of, though I'm told it's a sign of Dyslexia, but that's somewhat off-topic, but I figured I should prolly clarify the situation some more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    lying there in my hospital bed i decided to listen to some of the ghostvillage radio shows i had downloaded

    anyway just to remind you

    http://www.ghostvillage.com/resources/2007/gc_07112007.shtml

    this guy thinks that there is a pecking order to shadow people, never put much thought into it until he descriped the guy at the top of the pile, he descirbes the hat (somewhere between an cowboy and a bowler hat) with a cape and all black.

    as some of you know I discussed how as a child I along with other children would talk about seeing somthing out of the corner of your eye, this was a shap of a figure that at the time reminded me of the guy from the Sandeman port add he also darted around the place

    http://www.geocities.com/ramprasaduk/images/OportoSandeman1.jpg


    Anyway I thought it was very interesting to hear of similar descriptions with the hat and the cape from the USA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭speaktofrank


    What a well written and informative report. I like your writing style Nitefox, maybe you could turn that first bit into a book?


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