Need 10 X 8 Prints

TelePaul

Hey fellas was wondering where I can get very high quality 10 X 8 prints?

RCNPhotos

Actually it was I who was looking for them and Paul directed me to these boards. Cheers Paul. Anyway, I need to get some good 10x8 prints (digital) soon as possible. Thing is, I usually just drop a CD into the pharmacy to get done in the lab (6x4 and 7x5) which are fine but I got some 10x8's done and the quality wasn't great. I'm wondering about dropping em into gunns perhaps. Any suggestions? Also what sort of price owuld I be looking at per print?

Cheers,

-Ryan

dubtom

I've used the fuji store in Liffeyvalley and got good results, it was a while back,possibly a year or more, i think they were around the €2/2.50 mark.
Back in the day of film (remember that, ahh) Fuji processing was thought off as top notch, infact on fotonet it was raved about.

TelePaul

Actually Ryan you could try the Fuji place in the merrion centre and talk to the girl Emma there.

sineadw

I got some beautiful 10x8's from Gunnes a while back, €4 each I think, but that was B&W from film. Not sure if that makes a difference to price.

What camera are you using?

City-Exile

I got some done by Harvey Norman, (Not the man himself of course. I'd have punched him in the mouth if I saw him) at Airside in Swords.
The quality was as good as I would have expected. Would use them again.

rymus

photobox...

Raytown Rocks

Have to agree with above ^^^^^
I have used www.photobox.ie
Had the pictures within 3 days, very good service, and quality

edit

Thay also have a 30 free prints signing on deal.

gandalf

If you need them in a hurry it might be worthwhile checking out Harvey Norman, someone recently had a delivery delay with some photos they needed quickly from Photobox.

Having said that I would recommend them highly for quality but I would make sure I had a little headway to cover delivery times.

RCNPhotos

Yeah, Photobox could be good. But I do need em soon as possible. I'l see bout that. I'm using a 20D by the way. Cheers for the suggestions

RCNPhotos

Oh, meant to ask, any advise on resizing the pics for 10x8? Since they get all....squewed when I do it. Or is cropping just something I'l have to accept?

Cheers

Covey

Yep, I'm wondering that also.

Any help on this?

Calina

Exactlywhat is your problem with the cropping? It's just I usually crop them to size myself before sending to any printer.

challengemaster

City-Exile wrote: »

I got some done by Harvey Norman, (Not the man himself of course. I'd have punched him in the mouth if I saw him) at Airside in Swords.
The quality was as good as I would have expected. Would use them again.

ahahah, you're a legend for that post.

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Photobox is pure shíte. Their prints are very dark (and my screens are calibrated)

http://ie.foto.com/default.asp is apparently much better.

Covey

Thanks Calina:

Ok example :

I've done everything correctly (for once) in camera. Have a perfect phot, really happy with it, with important detail in all four corners.

It seems I then have crop and undo or even destroy the good composition etc and the photo I wanted, in order to print it.

Am I missing something here?

Thanks

T.

Roen

I 'shrink to fit' my shots on photobox, that way the image is printed exactly in the aspect ratio that I wanted, you do get a white border on the print that you can trim off or cover with the matte though.

Calina

Okay, I'm in the middle of stuff, but anyway.

if you have a Canon DSLR, the camera will be taking photographs in a 3:2 aspect ratio. This is the ratio of the longest side to the short side and matches 6x4 inch prints perfectly.

10x8 is actually a 5:4 aspect ration which means that if you send a 3:2 photograph to Photobox or HN or anyone else, they will crop stuff off to make it fit the print. This is a bad thing.

The ONLY way around it - if you want a 10x8 print, is to crop the photograph to 10x8 before you print it. Else, you can do what Roen suggests and wind up with a photograph that has stuff you've to cut off or, HN will do it for you.

If you know you are going to printing photographs to a given print size and you want them to turn out well, you are going to have to face up to dealing with the aspect ratio when you are processing them for printing.

Me, if I know they are going to be printed to 10x8, I adjust the crop accordingly. It's a nuisance; but there you have it.

Photobox do a 12x8 print which matches the in camera aspect ratio. If the 10x8 wrecks your composition for any reason - and it's very possible - then print at 12x8 instead. Frames, on the other hand, are harder to be got.

Ricky, Photobox have done some super prints with me. I am less enamoured by foto.com to be blunt about it. Their print quality is okay, their website is rubbish and I'm not impressed by their inability to deliver 20x30 despite claiming that if that is the AR of your photograph that is what you will get. It caused me untold problems last year.

Covey

Thanks Calina.

This photography lark gets me down at times and this is one of those.

Cameras, paper makers and framers are all after the same market and don't seem to be bothered to talk:( Then add PS to that ....

So basically you do as your always advised and get it right in camera and then you're faced with printing and framing problems.

Frustration on every bloody level.

T.

Calina

It's the frames get me down to be honest.

whyulittle

An expensive way around it, but with a 1D, you can set it to show you different aspect ratios in play back or through Liveview as you shoot.

stcstc

why not just crop the image yourself in photoshop before uploading them

12*8 is the correct ratio for most digital cameras not 10*8

Calina

That is not strictly true. A lot of the compacts are 4:3 now rather than 3:2 which causes them quite a lot of trouble with 6x4 prints.

PaulieC

photobox do a 12x8 print, which as Calina pointed out, matches the apsect ratio of your Canon SLR (and probably others). You can get 12x8 frames in some stores (e.g. woodies sometimes have them) or you can get one custom made in framing shops like Framemakers in Sandyford or Phoenix Frames in Irishtown.

If the pic is as perfect as you think (the Windmill pic ???) then I'm sure you wouldn't mind forking out the 40 or so quid for a custom frame...

or maybe Seve could do you one - deffo get a nicer print out of it

Covey

Thanks CG.

The example I gave was just that a made up example. I'm far from getting the perfect pic lol.

Think your mixing up with a decent photographer, as I don't have a windmill pic.:P

T.

smelltheglove

I use mypixmania for my photo prints. Most recently I got 1200 4 x6 and 50 10 x 8 and a wedding photo buck and it costonly 170 euro, the book being over 50 anyway and then there was delivery included in that so a great price.

Quality is superb, washable photos, if you havent come across them yet, get one, spill a cup of tea on it and wipe it clean. A must for me with kids around!

For comparison, I bought 400 4x6 prints in the chemist in blanchardstown centre which has the best price is the centre, the guy gave me a discount as they were my wedding photos and it was 60 euro. I think he knocked like 8 euro off it!

stcstc

sorry i wasnt specific enough, what i ment was most DSLR cameras

if you print at 12*8 generally you gonna want a frame bigger than that too, like 16*12, which then allows for a mount

AnCatDubh

challengemaster wrote: »

Photobox ..........Their prints are very dark (and my screens are calibrated)

Yeah i've found this with a small batch i used them for. Not very satisfied.

Covey wrote: »

I've done everything correctly (for once) in camera. Have a perfect phot, really happy with it, with important detail in all four corners.

Details in four corners are a problem if you then decide on a size (after the event). i.e. you have no scope to crop if you are looking for a size ratio that doesn't match your source crop factor. This is something you need to know before you set out on the great journey of producing an image.

Calina wrote: »

if you have a Canon DSLR, the camera will be taking photographs in a 3:2 aspect ratio. This is the ratio of the longest side to the short side and matches 6x4 inch prints perfectly.

Heheheheheh - i thought i was shooting in 6X4 but thanks! i now know it's 3X2

Calina wrote: »

Me, if I know they are going to be printed to 10x8, I adjust the crop accordingly. It's a nuisance; but there you have it.

Fully agree. You must go through it.

Calina wrote: »

Frames, on the other hand, are harder to be got.

Me too - this reallllllllly annoys me - I may have to learn to cut wood (and that would be eh..... disastrous)

Calina wrote: »

It's the frames get me down to be honest.

Absolutely agree.

Generally, if willing to enlarge enough and take the effort of making sure it fits when using the booth software / online service (shrink to fit) then you should be able to print to any size / crop factor. So if you had a square crop 4x4 (which is actually 1x1) and wanted to print it to an 8x8 then you may have to print at 8x10 and trim off an inch at either side.

So you could take your original corner to corner perfect image-> assess the crop factor - if an odd size (say 3x9) - then go for a size larger than both sides of the crop - so something like 8x10 in this case and cut the excess. Then find a friendly framer and let them do their thing.

Covey

Thanks all.

Beginning to think that photoagraphy is 10% about getting the image and 90% of post processing of some kind or other.

Now I really enjoy the 10% ( or the bits I know of that) and happy to spend the rest of my life, learning about the rest. I've made great progress and have genuine interest in some of my shots over the last while and I'm happy with where I'm at.

But the other 90 % just stresses the bejaysus out of me.

Beginning to seriously consider what I'm at here. Thought seriously about chucking it all in a few times and I'm back at that station once again.

T.

City-Exile

Covey, reduce your workload.
Take one or two images & try to get them as good as you can.
Don't stress out over it, just try to take it one step at a time & try to enjoy as you learn. Don't be afraid to ask for help here.

PaulieC

Covey wrote: »

Thanks CG.

The example I gave was just that a made up example. I'm far from getting the perfect pic lol.

Think your mixing up with a decent photographer, as I don't have a windmill pic.:P

T.

oops! too much to drink yesterday...damn bbqs. my apolOgies to the windmill pic owner

Deacon Blues

AnCatDubh wrote: »

Heheheheheh - i thought i was shooting in 6X4 but thanks! i now know it's 3X2

Don't mean to be pedantic, and fully take note of the Hehhehehehe, but 3:2 is a ratio, and 6X4 is a size. Important difference, but it means that 6X4, 12X8, and anything up to 600x400 and beyond, are ALL 3:2. The ratio is the baseline, and you can then work in pixels, inches, millimetres or any other unit you want to, once they are in this ratio to each other.