the most disgusting neighbour kids ive ever seen

theTinker

I have had the most stressful and confidence breaking weekend of my life. for 3 days, a gang of kids have been thrashing my garden, shouting abuse at me, and behaving like a pack of wild dogs.
I have to vent here or else im going to kill someone.

They have been kicking my hall door. ringing my bell constantly!!, throwing stones and sticks at my window, wrecking the stacks of bricks in the garden(for diy work) and basically living on my doorstep. Theres 2 girls and 3 guys, all under 15.

Today i couldnt take it anymore and rang the gardai..at 5:20, then again at 6, then AGAIN at 6:45, THEN AGAIN at 7:10. All the while, having my windows pummelled, the door kicked, the bricks smashed, the bell rung, insults hurdle at my house, my windows banged(so now i have to keep the curtains down all day).
The gardai promised to come after each call but took over 3 hours. I was so furious but so let down by the system. I dont know why i even bother to call them anymore. I have no idea what to do with these kids. I cant believe they just are able to keep doing this. No neighbour says anything to them, they tell me to just **** myself if i say anything to them and REFUSE to leave. The gardai after 3 long painful hours of ring and waiting and listening to my bell and windows told them to clear off, they actually stood there arguing with them for 10 mins. They left, the gardai told me that i have to call community police to deal with these "types" of problems. I pleaded with the gardai to talk to the kids parents(since they obviously wont tell me where they live)....so the gardai did absolutely nothing...they are just going to be in my garden tomoro when i get home from work and ill have to walk passed them in ****ing shame knowing i cant do a single thing to stop them.

The Gardai refused to go speak with thier parents. They were clearly not going to do anything as soon as they got here. Im so stressed by it.

muletide

The only thing I can suggest is to video everything they do. Keep a diary of everything they do also. The hard lads on the site here will tell you to get them on their own and give them a hiding but that will serve no purpose. Gather the evidence yourself as they guards dont have the manpower to watch you 24/7. Once you feel you have sufficient evidence present it to the guards.

Sorry for your troubles.

Sony

Jesus,thats a right nightmare-I find that absolutely ridiculous that the gardai wont do anything about the situation-I suggest you secretly record them and produce this to the gardai the next time you call them

Binomate

Surely the fact that they're trespassing on your property is enough for the Gardaí to get involved? Keep calling the Gardaí untill something is done. As Muletide says, gather your own evidence. Get them in the act on video or something.

Ruu_Old

There was a person in a similar position that posted on boards not that long ago and those involved kept a log and have video evidence. I hope it gets you somewhere and can't imagine the position you are in, sorry. Keep at the Gardai I'd say as well.

mikemac

OP, do a search and you will find a similar thread in After Hours about two months ago. I believe the garda arrested a gang in one swoop and issue resolved. I'm not one for moaning about the gardai-it's a difficult job and they are underresourced. One good point is there will be 800 gardai graduating between now and December 2007 from Templemore.

There is also a Prime Time programme on www.rte.ie with similar cases to you.
Sorry, did a search of the site but can't find so I've no link.
You might find it useful

On a lighter note, it's a pity you didn't raise this before the election. Your local Sinn Fein candidate could have the contacts to sort this

thefinalstage

Since you are a woman obviously living alone a few vicious dogs would help or a bat. What can I say, some people only understand violence.

Nevyn

Advocating violence on this forum will result in a banning.

bombidol

Violence obviously isnt the answer for this person because if it was it would have been the first resort. The scariest thing you can do to kids like that is to get a camera and when they do something, start taking pictures of them in the act. Gauranteed they wont show up again.

mike65

Do you know any of your (decent) neighbours? In fact even if you don't go round and ask for some help, its amazing what a collective show of strength can do in situations like this. The brats belive they are beyond rebuke as no-one has interveened, a serious talking to by a group bigger and stronger than them might be just the job. As for the Gardai - may I suggest you threaten to take matter into your own hands if they don't turn up smartish. They'll be round.

Mike.

doctor evil

Keep a log of everything that happens, and get it witnessed.

What are the other residents like?, assuming these kids are local perhaps you can go door to door.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Give Sinn Fein a shout

Peyton Manning

Record them secretly, as previous posters have recommended then present this to guards. They'll have to take action if you have evidence.

Dont be at yourself

They're teenagers, they're going to get bored of it in a day or two.

Idbatterim

sometimes violence is the only thing they understand, i had an incident a few months back, sorted the guy out pretty quick (they are cowards, once they know you mean business they will usually back down), the good thing is i live in an area where there are very few scum and then they are only young. As you are a woman its different, you probably dont have many options, would you consider moving? are you living in a scum area or are they a minority? are you living in the country or dublin?

dame

You could get one of those mosquito things they've been trying out to keep kids from loitering outside shops. It emits noise at a high frequency that is undetectable to anyone over the age of twenty. Teenagers apparently can't stand it.

Idbatterim

you could get one of those devices they have started to put outside shops, it emits a high frequency wave that only young people can hear, its apparently very annoying, then again they may retaliate futher, you could also put up cctv on the house, either the real thing or a dummy, they wont know!

dudara

I do not want any advocation of violence on this forum. The next allusion, no matter how slight, will result in bans.

Peyton Manning

Two words: Garden Sprinklers

LegacyUser

buy one of these

http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/mosquito_distributors.html

Idbatterim

im not sure what the mods issue is, but id like to know if they have been in similar positions, because most people arent looking for trouble here, they are going about their lives and dont want hassle, these scum make people lives a misery, they are nothing but a waste on society, they expect everything and do nothing! The american model isnt actually all that bad, there should be some sort of fall back if you hit hard times, anyone can, but why should you get paid to claim the dole and every other benefit going your whole life? and contribute nothing to society! get this, my mums self employed, contributes tens of thousands to the government every year, pays PRSI and isnt even entiteled to dental care or free health care and every other allowance those scum take forgranted, what am i missing?

the_syco

Get a camcorder, film them, do close-ups on their face's, etc, and then pop into the police one of the days. Unless you can ID them, with names, they can't do sh|t.

AnonoBoy

I agree with the Garden sprinklers suggestion. Just set them up and leave them running, making sure that they reach your front door step and cover as much of the garden as they can.

Also - ask other neighbours to help you out if they can.

Peyton Manning

dont leave them running, youll just flood your garden. instead, have a switch for them near the window. this way, when the young scum come up, you can turn them on and watch them run away like the fools that they are with immense pleasure.

Nevyn

Idbatterim wrote:

im not sure what the mods issue is,

The charter which contains the rules for this forum states that advocating violence will not be tolerated and those that do it will be banned.

Idbatterim wrote:

but id like to know if they have been in similar positions, because most people arent looking for trouble here, they are going about their lives and dont want hassle, these scum make people lives a misery,

I have been in that situation and decided to water my garden with water balloons.

Idbatterim wrote:

what am i missing?

You are also missing where in the charter that posting about moderators actions or decisions in the forum is off topic and should be done via pm with mod or in the feed back forum.

Off topic and unhelpful posting will get you banned from this forum.
Do read the rules which are in the charter
Have a nice day.
Thaedydal

legs11

forget sprinklers, get a pit bull.....:) failing that an alsatian will suffice

imagine these knackers when they grow up, im sure they wouldnt miss a limb or two.

Nevyn

legs11 banned.

bug

when did this start and have you any idea why they have isolated your house as a target?

I would say that the best thing to do is not to react to them at all. Unless there are some circumstances you haven't disclosed in this thread.. I would say kids get pretty bored if you don't react.

Film them, as a lot of people have suggested, this is the only way you will get reimbursed for any damages they inflict on your property.

You can invest in some short term measures as described in this thread. I would inform my local councillor and make an appointment to visit them and ask for their advice if this continues.

Peyton Manning

lol, read thaedydal's post #25, and look what legs11 follows it up with!

OP, in all seriousness, you need to be firm with these youngsters. Have u tried having a word with their parents? Are they targeting any other houses in the area?

BostonB

Archimedes wrote:

lol, read thaedydal's post #25, and look what legs11 follows it up with!

OP, in all seriousness, you need to be firm with these youngsters. Have u tried having a word with their parents? Are they targeting any other houses in the area?

Was in the first post...

theTinker wrote:

....I pleaded with the gardai to talk to the kids parents(since they obviously wont tell me where they live).......

The Gardai refused to go speak with thier parents. They were clearly not going to do anything as soon as they got here. Im so stressed by it.

PeakOutput

get a dog ....a big one....that looks like this

http://www.policedogtrainers.com/family-protection-dogs.htm

seamus

Hi powered hose is also a good one.

When they start ringing the doorbell, appear around the side entrance and let rip.
The problem with sprinklers is that if it's a nice day, the kids will laugh and enjoy it. Power hoses are sore. Aim for an area of clothing, and you won't do any damage, yet they won't be able to stand there and take it.

Miss Fluff

seamus wrote:

Hi powered hose is also a good one.

When they start ringing the doorbell, appear around the side entrance and let rip.
The problem with sprinklers is that if it's a nice day, the kids will laugh and enjoy it. Power hoses are sore. Aim for an area of clothing, and you won't do any damage, yet they won't be able to stand there and take it.

Tbh I'd see this as a red rag to a bull and correct me if I'm wrong but even spraying them with a power hose could constitute as assault. All I'd suggest is trying to get as much video evidence as possible and present it to the cops. What disgusting behaviour, I feel for you OP, I really do.

Stabshauptmann

NekkidBibleMan wrote:

They're teenagers, they're going to get bored of it in a day or two.

HA!

Izzyone

What about the ASBO? We all know the police dont have the manpower but, in this day and age nobody should have to put up with that knid of abuse, if the anti-social behaviour order was issued to them maybe their parents might take control of things. If it continued then it would start hitting the parents in the pocket!

cold_filter

thelastangryman wrote:

Since you are a woman obviously living alone a few vicious dogs would help or a bat. What can I say, some people only understand violence.

Exactly the solution, a good friend of mines sister(pregnant at the time ) bought a house in finglas about 6 years ago, she was originally from killiney so bit a transition, she talked very posh and soon became a target for yobs and as her husband was off at work they were never there when he was so after about a month he raised the walls in the front garden by about 3 foot and put in big gates and a big warnign sign "Trespassers will be eaten by dogs" he got 3 of the biggest meanest looking rottys i mean these things were enormous and they looked like they would take down a bear! one of the yobs was teasin the dogs by hanging over the gate, the dog jumped up and clamped his teeth around the arm of the yob only for the scumbag having a watched on it saved him from having his arm ripped off the werent around so much after that but they moved shortly after anyway.

The thing is the dogs were extremey friendly once you got to know them!
You could also use a bat but get someone else to do some damage! local viglantes?

Nevyn

cold_filter banned for one month for advocating the use of violence.

Steve_o

I think what most of the posters above have said is correct....you need to gather video and photographic evidence and take it to the Gardaí, they have to do something about it then!

DarkJager

I'm not advocating violence, but sometimes it is the only language that scumbags like this understand. Its not legal and should definitely be last resort but a homeowner has every right to protect their property against actions like this.

Steve_o

DarkJager wrote:

I'm not advocating violence, but sometimes it is the only language that scumbags like this understand. Its not legal and should definitely be last resort but a homeowner has every right to protect their property against actions like this.

Why are the words Protection and Violence being linked so often these days....Non Violent protection of property always works out better....get the evidence and let the cops deal with it LEGALLY!!!! If not one could find themselves with a nice little assault charge to deal with!!!!!

Imposter

I think you'll find it takes a hell of a lot of effort to convince the cops to do something and even then it isn't guaranteed that the scumbags won't return (as a 'talking to' from the cops and/or a court case against them doesn't deter these lowlifes).

Marksie

Folks: Could we deal solely with the OP issues of how he/she NON VIOLENTLY deals with the situation.

No more off topic posting, suggestions involving body contact or anything remotely resembling watering.

If you want to rant about such things, take it do a different forum.
People have been banned in here already.

HJ Simpson

A girl I worked with had a similar but not as extreme problem as yourself. The neighbours got together and called a meeting with the local councillors/tds and got the issued dealt with. Advocating violence is all well and good the reality of living with this sort of problem can be terrifiying!
Good luck.

Marksie

HJ Simpson wrote:

A girl I worked with had a similar but not as extreme problem as yourself. The neighbours got together and called a meeting with the local councillors/tds and got the issued dealt with. Advocating violence is all well and good the reality of living with this sort of problem can be terrifiying!
Good luck.

OP do you have a residents association? Perhaps try them, it is a good suggestion to go with others as it lends weight to your arguments

HashSlinging

Theres some sort of alarm you can get now, that rings at a certain MHZ level that only teenagers can hear and it is very annoying to them. I'm not sure what its called im sure someone on here knows.

fletch

I would not advocate violence either as most likely, these children will have parents/uncles/friends who will retaliate with violence also, most likely bricking your windows, vandalizing cars, punishment beatings etc etc. Where does it all end then?
In relation to your problem, I don't really have an answer. Ignoring them and they will get bored is probably your best option. Failing that, investing in a 10metre perimeter fence around your home seems like the only other way of keeping the scumbags out.

jubi lee

Op do you happen to have a male friend/brother that could call around for an hour or so for a few evenings? maybe if he lets a roar out of him at them it might scare them off. they may know you are in the house on your own so if a guy was around it might make them think twice.

we moved into a rented property and found that kids were constantly in our front garden and around the side of our house, not sure what they were at but they ended up breaking the fence. My other half let a roar out of him and they went running, never came back.

you also mentioned that the gardi told you to contact the community garda, have you not done this yet?

HashSlinging

OP


http://www.mosquito.ie/

scargill

In the estate I used to live there was often problems with gangs of teenagers just hanging around, sitting on the wall, shouting/roaring. I was in a cul-de-sac so it was an area they could act the maggot away from their parents.
One of my neighbours had a go at the them one night and told them to bugger off. They made her life hell - eggs where regularly thrown at her windows, pulling up flowers in her garden, etc.

I reckon half their fun was getting her wound up. Myself and another neighbour put up bright security lights which lit up the front of the houses when they were hanging around the cul-de-sac. They soon got fed up of the lights and pi$$ed off elsewhere.

I know of someone else in the estate who grabbed a hold of one of these teenagers (a 6 foot 16 yearold scumbag) and gave him a couple of digs. The young lads parents are bringing this guy up for assault. I had often felt like doing it myself - but you just have to bite your lip and wait for them to get bored and move on. Easier said than done I know !!

Binomate

What is surrounding your front garden? Maybe installing a few bushes and maybe even a front gate might keep them out if it's not too expensive. I know that bushes and a gate wont physically keep them out, but there's a huge psychological difference between entering a property with gates and bushes surrounding it, and entering a property that's just completely open from all sides. A closed off property shouts out at their subconcious thoughts, "DO NOT FUCKING ENTER".

snickerpuss

Everyone advocating mosquito/noise thing : this wouldn't be much fun for any innocent teenagers who live next door/nearby! I've heard it, it goes through your head.

Definately deal with it non-violently. I'm not sure the gardaí would take notice of video evidence but try and get in touch with local TD or something. Hopefully they will just get fed up.