New Subjects?

cson

The most useful subjects thread got me thinking, if you were minister for edumacation, if you and herr hanifin swapped brains, what would you add as an examinable subject in the leaving?

My one would be "Skobie Studies", how to deal with them etc, > "If Anto nicks a car radio and Garda Molloy is chasing him, how fast will Anto have to run to escape him? *hint: Anto is wearing Air Max. (20 Marks)

lemansky

cson wrote:

My one would be "Skobie Studies", how to deal with them etc, > "If Anto nicks a car radio and Garda Molloy is chasing him, how fast will Anto have to run to escape him? *hint: Anto is wearing Air Max. (20 Marks)

Myself and my friends actually had a discussion about a course recently...applied maths for skobies
Working out the ideal point on a car window to jab your screwdriver into based on material,area etc.I dare say it would be quite complicated,but then again a subject isn't hard if you have an aptitude for the subject matter!

thefinalstage

lemansky wrote:

Myself and my friends actually had a discussion about a course recently...applied maths for skobies
Working out the ideal point on a car window to jab your screwdriver into based on material,area etc.I dare say it would be quite complicated,but then again a subject isn't hard if you have an aptitude for the subject matter!

Pfft. The part furthest away from any support, the middle. One good focused shot and that window is down.

insafehands

You know there is a Leaving Cert forum. Why not use it?

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Because it doesn't fit in the Leaving Cert forum. What about a JC subject? Or a primary school subject?

STFU noob.

randylonghorn

cson wrote:

The most useful subjects thread got me thinking, if you were minister for edumacation, if you and herr hanifin swapped brains, what would you add as an examinable subject in the leaving?

Sex ed.

cson wrote:

if you and herr hanifin swapped brains

what a horrible thought!

lemansky

thelastangryman wrote:

Pfft. The part furthest away from any support, the middle. One good focused shot and that window is down.

A1

Pherekydes

Ibid wrote:

STFU noob.

Good man yerself. Keep the moderator end up.

Philosophy, in particular logic and ethics. Two areas so evidently lacking in Irish life.

cson

Apparently ethics is supposed to be taught in Religion classes....

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Slow coach wrote:

Good man yerself. Keep the moderator end up.

I'm not a mod in this forum . And it pisses me off when people "This shouldn't be in After Hours" when, well, it really should.

Zebra3

cson wrote:

Apparently ethics is supposed to be taught in Religion classes....

What relation have religion and ethics got that they should be taught together?

insafehands

Ibid wrote:

STFU noob.

From: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055098793

Ibid wrote:

Keep clear of personal abuse lads; attack the post not the poster. I think I've given you both fair warning at this stage.

Hyprocrite?

cson

Zebra3 wrote:

What relation have religion and ethics got that they should be taught together?

I don't know, but in school morality and ethics are part of religion classes and afaik the religion JC and LC courses

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insafehands wrote:

Hyprocrite?

Nope, I'm not a mod here.

What's with your Fight teh Powa mood today?

cson

insafehands wrote:

From: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055098793



Hyprocrite?

Start a thread on hypocrisy if thats how you feel. This thread in case you haven't noticed is about introducing new school subjects.

insafehands

cson wrote:

Start a thread on hypocrisy if thats how you feel. This thread in case you haven't noticed is about introducing new school subjects.

STFU noob.

cson

nesf

Quit acting like a bunch of children.


Oh and philosophy in second level would be an idea but I can't see it being taught well since they probably wouldn't hire Philosophy grads to teach it and just palm it off on someone with little actual knowledge of the subject.

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insafehands wrote:

STFU noob.

You're really, really asking for trouble.

You see, there's such a thing as context that's used to determine what happens on Boards and often n00bs, a bit like yourself, don't get it. If my girlfriend says "Oh, Aston Villa lost again" to me, I might well say "Oh shut up, woman!" to her. And things will be fine because in the context of the situation it's acceptable to us. Contrast this to a situation where she asks me to help her make dinner, and I reply with "Oh shut up, woman!" Literally the same thing was said, but in the context of the situation it's completely unacceptable and I'd be out on my ear.

Now in this thread some newb came in and proverbially pissed in the thread's cornflakes commenting (wrongly) that it should be in the Leaving Cert forum. Not only were they mistaken, they did it rudely. This case of Muppetitis is similar to the case of Grand Muppetitis to be seen here where I called a poster a gobsh*te. Incidentally, I was previously banned from the Politics forum for two weeks for calling someone a gobsh*te. Note the context issue I referred to above. Your post deserved a "STFU noob" because you were out line and thread-spoiling all the while being rude. Cson's point that, yet again, you were de-railing the thread was well made and warranted. It did not deserve a "STFU noob" comment.

What you're doing is walking around the house shouting "Oh shut up, woman!" and that's asking for trouble.

Back on-topic, I would introduce a more rigourous CSPE programme for the Junior Cert.

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nesf wrote:

Oh and philosophy in second level would be an idea

15 year olds studying Philosophy? It hurts my brain. Maybe an optional choice for LC though.

skyhighflyer

Law would be good; they teach it at A level stage in the UK as an option. Amazing how a subject that affects people's lives so much isn't given so much as a glance at school level.

nesf

Ibid wrote:

You're really, really asking for trouble.

You see, there's such a thing as context that's used to determine what happens on Boards and often n00bs, a bit like yourself, don't get it. If my girlfriend says "Oh, Aston Villa lost again" to me, I might well say "Oh shut up, woman!" to her. And things will be fine because in the context of the situation it's acceptable to us. Contrast this to a situation where she asks me to help her make dinner, and I reply with "Oh shut up, woman!" Literally the same thing was said, but in the context of the situation it's completely unacceptable and I'd be out on my ear.

Now in this thread some newb came in and proverbially pissed in the thread's cornflakes commenting (wrongly) that it should be in the Leaving Cert forum. Not only were they mistaken, they did it rudely. This case of Muppetitis is similar to the case of Grand Muppetitis to be seen here where I called a poster a gobsh*te. Incidentally, I was previously banned from the Politics forum for two weeks for calling someone a gobsh*te. Note the context issue I referred to above. Your post deserved a "STFU noob" because you were out line and thread-spoiling all the while being rude. Cson's point that, yet again, you were de-railing the thread was well made and warranted. It did not deserve a "STFU noob" comment.

What you're doing is walking around the house shouting "Oh shut up, woman!" and that's asking for trouble.

Quit dragging this thread further off topic please. It's bad enough as it is.

nesf

Ibid wrote:

15 year olds studying Philosophy? It hurts my brain. Maybe an optional choice for LC though.

It would have to be optional. Forcing it on everyone would just be cruel and unusual punishment.

Wertz

Road safety and basic driving skills.

Gone West

nesf wrote:

they probably wouldn't hire Philosophy grads to teach it

Haha because Ba Phil Graduates are in such high demand :P

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nesf wrote:

Quit dragging this thread further off topic please. It's bad enough as it is.

Certainly.

Wertz wrote:

Road safety and basic driving skills.

Excellent idea. Not to make it political, but FG have proposed this for Transition Year. It's not a subject I'd like to have a LC exam in though.

skyhighflyer wrote:

Law would be good; they teach it at A level stage in the UK as an option. Amazing how a subject that affects people's lives so much isn't given so much as a glance at school level.

Excellent idea.

I think there's room for more widespread teaching of continental languages for Leaving Cert (Spanish, for example.)

snickerpuss

Road safety and driving skills would be cool, but if it involved driving lessons or whatever, I wasn't 17 til start of 6th year so I would have been waiting a while to do any theory tests etc!

I'd love philosophy maybe something politics-y cos I loved CSPE for the Junior.

nesf

FuzzyLogic wrote:

Haha because Ba Phil Graduates are in such high demand :P

Attol

The A-Levels have some things very right. You can do thinks like IT, computing, law, pretty much anything if it's offered by your school/6th form college. You choose and maths and things aren't compulsory which I think is fair enough because maths can be quite a struggle for some people. The only problem is in practice I found the level of teaching was quite low in some areas, such as languages. It may be hard for me to judge though as I was in a state school with a horrific number of drop outs (myself included) and the schools I've been to in Ireland have been very good ones. If it was well structured I think it could work.

JIZZLORD

computer science.
It's not that hard if you do some simple stuff such as a nice language like python, do a bit on components and general stuff and some of the maths.
Basically what some first year uni students have.

GerryRyan

More languages; and possibly sign language ...

cson

ThatGuy wrote:

More languages; and possibly sign language ...

Tbh I don't know how many more languages can be added as an examinable subject, theres a heap of them already - Russian etc!

mp3guy

Ibid wrote:

Excellent idea. Not to make it political, but FG have proposed this for Transition Year. It's not a subject I'd like to have a LC exam in though.

We did Car Maintenance in Transition Year. Included servicing cars, and a driving course at Mondello driving track, and all the road safety stuff that came with that, as well as all the applying for tax insurance stuff.

Heisenberg.

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Tar.Aldarion

Philosophy(they have that in france, yes?) and sex education.

JC 2K3

Attol wrote:

The A-Levels have some things very right. You can do thinks like IT, computing, law, pretty much anything if it's offered by your school/6th form college. You choose and maths and things aren't compulsory which I think is fair enough because maths can be quite a struggle for some people. The only problem is in practice I found the level of teaching was quite low in some areas, such as languages. It may be hard for me to judge though as I was in a state school with a horrific number of drop outs (myself included) and the schools I've been to in Ireland have been very good ones. If it was well structured I think it could work.

16/17 is too young to specialise in specific areas though. That's why I think the LC is superior to A Levels.

It's supposed to be secondary school, not college. Secondary school is about learning as much as possible in many different areas.

I mean the fact that maths is a struggle to some people is a reason why it should be compulsory. At a young age people should be made make an effort with some subjects they find difficult.

Wacker

nesf wrote:

Quit acting like a bunch of children.


Oh and philosophy in second level would be an idea but I can't see it being taught well since they probably wouldn't hire Philosophy grads to teach it and just palm it off on someone with little actual knowledge of the subject.

I'm a philosophy graduate, and yet I feel I know very little about philosophy myself. Whenever I poke my head into the philosophy forum, two things always happen:
1. I get annoyed with people who post when they clearly have no understanding of the topic.
2. I quickly realize I am one those people myself!