Strange Omaha hand Quiz....

Flipper

I'd like to hear what people would do in the following situations. Have discussed it with 3 very strong PLO players on MSN and I've got varying responses.

Game is 6-handed $5/$10 PLO and we're on the button. Everyone is playing $1,000. First hand of the night so no reads. UTG folds, next two call, we call with QcQs4d5c, SB calls and the BB checks his option.

Flop (60): JsQdKs

It's checked to you.

Question 1: What's your action if played as described?
Question 1.5: Checked to us, we pot it, SB folds, BB re-pots it and folded back to us. We now do??
Question 2: What if the flop was rainbow? Would you do the same?
Question 3: SB leads for the pot. Everyone folds to you. What do you do?
Question 4: SB leads for the pot and gets 2 mid position callers. What do you do?

Back to the original play. You check.

Turn (60): Kd

SB and BB check, UTG+1 pots it and gets called by the CO.

Question 5: What do you do?
Question 6: If the CO raises it to 240, what do you do?
Question 7: If it was checked to you again what do you do?

Back to the original play. You call the 60. SB and BB fold 3 players to the river.

River (240): Jd

UTG+1 checks, CO bets 120...

Question 8: What do you do?
Question 9: We call and the UTG+1 player pots it. CO goes into the tank but folds. Is this ever a call?
Question 10: If the river was checked to you, is there any value is betting?

This might seem like a strange thread but I'm most concerned with questions 1-4 and 10.

EDIT: to include a very important question 1.5

BigCityBanker

Flipper wrote:

I'd like to hear what people would do in the following situations. Have discussed it with 3 very strong PLO players on MSN and I've got varying responses.

Game is 6-handed $5/$10 PLO and we're on the button. Everyone is playing $1,000. First hand of the night so no reads. UTG folds, next two call, we call with QdQs4d5c, SB calls and the BB checks his option.

Flop (60): JsQdKs

It's checked to you.

Question 1: What's your action if played as described? Bet Pot
Question 2: What if the flop was rainbow? Would you do the same? Yes
Question 3: SB leads for the pot. Everyone folds to you. What do you do? call
Question 4: SB leads for the pot and gets 2 mid position callers. What do you do? raise pot

Back to the original play. You check.

Turn (60): Kd

SB and BB check, UTG+1 pots it and gets called by the CO.

Question 5: What do you do? Call
Question 6: If the CO raises it to 240, what do you do? Call
Question 7: If it was checked to you again what do you do? Bet 1/2 Pot

Back to the original play. You call the 60. SB and BB fold 3 players to the river.

River (240): Jd

UTG+1 checks, CO bets 120...

Question 8: What do you do? as played id like to think i could fold
Question 9: We call and the UTG+1 player pots it. CO goes into the tank but folds. Is this ever a call? Probably not
Question 10: If the river was checked to you, is there any value is betting? No

This might seem like a strange thread but I'm most concerned with questions 1-4 and 10.

disclaimer: I suck so bad at omaha and i answered those Q in a hurry

Lafortezza

1) Bet pot

2) Yes, bet pot

3) Raise or fold depending on how nitty/good SB is.

4) Fold, any K, spade or straight card is bad, you could already be drawing to 1 out against a limped KKxx or the nut straight that is waiting to see a safe turn.

5) Call mostly, sometimes raise though.
6) Fold

7) Bet half or two thirds pot.

8) Call
9) Easy fold
10) Yes I think there is, with the double paired board there's less chance someone is boated up, therefore there's less chance you are so you might get called by AK, or a flush. Obv fold to a check-raise.

Flipper

I've added "Question 1.5" to the original post. Very important question that I left out.

Killme00

Flipper wrote:

QdQs4d5c,
Flop (60): JsQdKs

The deck is rigged!! Qd in hand Qd on flop..this has a huge effect

Marq

Flipper wrote:

I'd like to hear what people would do in the following situations. Have discussed it with 3 very strong PLO players on MSN and I've got varying responses.

Game is 6-handed $5/$10 PLO and we're on the button. Everyone is playing $1,000. First hand of the night so no reads. UTG folds, next two call, we call with QdQs4d5c, SB calls and the BB checks his option.

Flop (60): JsQdKs

It's checked to you.

Question 1: What's your action if played as described? sometimes i check behind, but I usually bet 40-pot
Question 1.5: Checked to us, we pot it, SB folds, BB re-pots it and folded back to us. We now do?? if we were any shorter I'd get it in now. as is I probably call. sometimes I would raise.
Question 2: What if the flop was rainbow? Would you do the same? I might check now, still betting something like 30% of the time.
Question 3: SB leads for the pot. Everyone folds to you. What do you do? call
Question 4: SB leads for the pot and gets 2 mid position callers. What do you do? Make it 360 or fold.

Back to the original play. You check.

Turn (60): Kd

SB and BB check, UTG+1 pots it and gets called by the CO.

Question 5: What do you do? call
Question 6: If the CO raises it to 240, what do you do? fold
Question 7: If it was checked to you again what do you do? bet and fold to a pot sized raise

Back to the original play. You call the 60. SB and BB fold 3 players to the river.

River (240): Jd

UTG+1 checks, CO bets 120...

Question 8: What do you do? wish I'd folded the turn
Question 9: We call and the UTG+1 player pots it. CO goes into the tank but folds. Is this ever a call? no
Question 10: If the river was checked to you, is there any value is betting? I doubt it

This might seem like a strange thread but I'm most concerned with questions 1-4 and 10.

EDIT: to include a very important question 1.5

I suck though.

Flipper

Killme00 wrote:

The deck is rigged!! Qd in hand Qd on flop..this has a huge effect

fixed

Killme00

Flipper wrote:

I'd like to hear what people would do in the following situations. Have discussed it with 3 very strong PLO players on MSN and I've got varying responses.

Game is 6-handed $5/$10 PLO and we're on the button. Everyone is playing $1,000. First hand of the night so no reads. UTG folds, next two call, we call with QcQs4d5c, SB calls and the BB checks his option.

Flop (60): JsQdKs

It's checked to you.

Question 1: What's your action if played as described? The pot is 50 on the flop. I would bet 30-40.

Question 1.5: Checked to us, we pot it, SB folds, BB re-pots it and folded back to us. We now do?? I am folding, i think we have 30% equity at best against the nuts here..and the villian potentially also has some of our outs

Question 2: What if the flop was rainbow? Would you do the same? Yes i would still bet 30-40 and still fold

Question 3: SB leads for the pot. Everyone folds to you. What do you do? I am inclined to call here, but this could be a leak for me..calling too often


Question 4: SB leads for the pot and gets 2 mid position callers. What do you do? Flat call

Back to the original play. You check.

Turn (60): Kd

SB and BB check, UTG+1 pots it and gets called by the CO.

Question 5: What do you do?I am going to go ahead and raise here, alot of the time we will be up against AK

Question 6: If the CO raises it to 240, what do you do?Fold

Question 7: If it was checked to you again what do you do?I would bet the pot here

Back to the original play. You call the 60. SB and BB fold 3 players to the river.

River (240): Jd

UTG+1 checks, CO bets 120...

Question 8: What do you do?Call

Question 9: We call and the UTG+1 player pots it. CO goes into the tank but folds. Is this ever a call?I dont know, i fold like a punk

Question 10: If the river was checked to you, is there any value is betting? We will not be called by a straight but may be called by a smaller house, a bigger house would have bet, but a straight flush might check raise, i would check because i cannot call a check raise here

This might seem like a strange thread but I'm most concerned with questions 1-4 and 10.

EDIT: to include a very important question 1.5

Comments added..i call to much

cardshark202

Flipper wrote:

I'd like to hear what people would do in the following situations. Have discussed it with 3 very strong PLO players on MSN and I've got varying responses.

Game is 6-handed $5/$10 PLO and we're on the button. Everyone is playing $1,000. First hand of the night so no reads. UTG folds, next two call, we call with QcQs4d5c, SB calls and the BB checks his option.

Flop (60): JsQdKs

It's checked to you.

Question 1: What's your action if played as described?Mostly bet pot
Question 1.5: Checked to us, we pot it, SB folds, BB re-pots it and folded back to us. We now do??I would fold here.
Question 2: What if the flop was rainbow? Would you do the same?Yes
Question 3: SB leads for the pot. Everyone folds to you. What do you do?I would call but I would bet on any spade too.
Question 4: SB leads for the pot and gets 2 mid position callers. What do you do?Now I would fold here.

Back to the original play. You check.

Turn (60): Kd

SB and BB check, UTG+1 pots it and gets called by the CO.

Question 5: What do you do?Fold without reads
Question 6: If the CO raises it to 240, what do you do?Definate fold now without reads
Question 7: If it was checked to you again what do you do?Half pot

Back to the original play. You call the 60. SB and BB fold 3 players to the river.

River (240): Jd

UTG+1 checks, CO bets 120...

Question 8: What do you do?Fold
Question 9: We call and the UTG+1 player pots it. CO goes into the tank but folds. Is this ever a call?No I never call here
Question 10: If the river was checked to you, is there any value is betting?Not really no.

This might seem like a strange thread but I'm most concerned with questions 1-4 and 10.

EDIT: to include a very important question 1.5

On the whole though a lot of the answers to these questions are read dependant. Anyway I answered them as best I could, assuming the players are all decent.

charlesanto

pot pot repot the flop
fold the turn !!!!:D

dougee19

Flipper wrote:

I'd like to hear what people would do in the following situations. Have discussed it with 3 very strong PLO players on MSN and I've got varying responses.

Game is 6-handed $5/$10 PLO and we're on the button. Everyone is playing $1,000. First hand of the night so no reads. UTG folds, next two call, we call with QcQs4d5c, SB calls and the BB checks his option.

Flop (60): JsQdKs

It's checked to you.

my answers are related to online play with random people....
Question 1: What's your action if played as described?Check
Question 1.5: Checked to us, we pot it, SB folds, BB re-pots it and folded back to us. We now do??personally fold, no need to get involved
Question 2: What if the flop was rainbow? Would you do the same?i would be more inclined to bet and would bet out sometimes, but probably less than 30%
Question 3: SB leads for the pot. Everyone folds to you. What do you do?flat call
Question 4: SB leads for the pot and gets 2 mid position callers. What do you do?call

Back to the original play. You check.

Turn (60): Kd

SB and BB check, UTG+1 pots it and gets called by the CO.

Question 5: What do you do?this is a tough one for me.... depends on the players to be honest, i would be more likely to re-raise here, odds of lone kings are strong compared to house since qq in your hand, so want to get rid of players before they fill....
Question 6: If the CO raises it to 240, what do you do?its either ship or push... player being tight more inclined to fold... actually, either way, more inclined to fold....)
Question 7: If it was checked to you again what do you do?(bet pot of 60)

Back to the original play. You call the 60. SB and BB fold 3 players to the river.

River (240): Jd

UTG+1 checks, CO bets 120...

Question 8: What do you do?call..., i had re-raise written here...... i only took it down cause all above said fold or dodgy call..., :rolleyes:
Question 9: We call and the UTG+1 player pots it. CO goes into the tank but folds. Is this ever a call?not for me anyway... it would have to be an unreal move to do that and online i would never call here, live i might....
Question 10: If the river was checked to you, is there any value is betting?well since i was gonna raise in question 8 then yeah... .. this obv means i'm wrong in 8(edited) but i would bet 140 here

This might seem like a strange thread but I'm most concerned with questions 1-4 and 10.

EDIT: to include a very important question 1.5

how many did i get wrong??? :O

Marq

so what does flipper think?
and his three friends?

ianmc38

Flipper wrote:

I'd like to hear what people would do in the following situations. Have discussed it with 3 very strong PLO players on MSN and I've got varying responses.

Game is 6-handed $5/$10 PLO and we're on the button. Everyone is playing $1,000. First hand of the night so no reads. UTG folds, next two call, we call with QcQs4d5c, SB calls and the BB checks his option.

Flop (60): JsQdKs

It's checked to you.

Question 1: What's your action if played as described? Bet 3/4 pot most of the time. Check behind sometimes.

Question 1.5: Checked to us, we pot it, SB folds, BB re-pots it and folded back to us. We now do?? - Depends on the BB. Mostly folding though.

Question 2: What if the flop was rainbow? Would you do the same? Yes.

Question 3: SB leads for the pot. Everyone folds to you. What do you do? Mostly call.

Question 4: SB leads for the pot and gets 2 mid position callers. What do you do? Mostly fold, sometimes call.

Back to the original play. You check.

Turn (60): Kd

SB and BB check, UTG+1 pots it and gets called by the CO.

Question 5: What do you do? Call.
Question 6: If the CO raises it to 240, what do you do? Fold.
Question 7: If it was checked to you again what do you do? Bet.

Back to the original play. You call the 60. SB and BB fold 3 players to the river.

River (240): Jd

UTG+1 checks, CO bets 120...

Question 8: What do you do? Call sometimes
Question 9: We call and the UTG+1 player pots it. CO goes into the tank but folds. Is this ever a call? No.
Question 10: If the river was checked to you, is there any value is betting? Thought thisone was headsup. Definitely not into 3 players. Your hand has showdown value, could easily be the best hand, cant stand a check raise and will rarely get called by worse.

This might seem like a strange thread but I'm most concerned with questions 1-4 and 10.

EDIT: to include a very important question 1.5

They're my thoughts. Some of the situations are very player dependant though so reads would be crucial.

smoothcall

Flipper wrote:

I'd like to hear what people would do in the following situations. Have discussed it with 3 very strong PLO players on MSN and I've got varying responses.

Game is 6-handed $5/$10 PLO and we're on the button. Everyone is playing $1,000. First hand of the night so no reads. UTG folds, next two call, we call with QcQs4d5c, SB calls and the BB checks his option.

Flop (60): JsQdKs

It's checked to you.

Question 1: What's your action if played as described? POT
Question 1.5: Checked to us, we pot it, SB folds, BB re-pots it and folded back to us. We now do?? Call (cant get over the ammount of people folding here , were 65% fav vs A10 no redraw.
Question 2: What if the flop was rainbow? Would you do the same? No , i would just check / fold if repotted to me
Question 3: SB leads for the pot. Everyone folds to you. What do you do?call
Question 4: SB leads for the pot and gets 2 mid position callers. What do you do?Pot most of the time call some of the time

Back to the original play. You check.

Turn (60): Kd

SB and BB check, UTG+1 pots it and gets called by the CO.

Question 5: What do you do? call
Question 6: If the CO raises it to 240, what do you do?fold
Question 7: If it was checked to you again what do you do?POT

Back to the original play. You call the 60. SB and BB fold 3 players to the river.

River (240): Jd

UTG+1 checks, CO bets 120...

Question 8: What do you do?prob fold
Question 9: We call and the UTG+1 player pots it. CO goes into the tank but folds. Is this ever a call?never, you dont beat anything
Question 10: If the river was checked to you, is there any value is betting?nah

This might seem like a strange thread but I'm most concerned with questions 1-4 and 10.

EDIT: to include a very important question 1.5

Id play it aggresive on flop try and get HU, When it gets 3 way it gets dangerous as there only second nut draws