Second nuts

Rod & Reel

i play live NL once in a blue moon inside in the fitz. i do not proclaim to b a great player but i do play tight when im playing live and i slowly take down some small pots and the odd middle sized 1.

on a recent visit to the fitz i was getting second best hands all nite. just 1 r 2 examples would b Im delt J5 in BB so i check it. flop comes J57 2hearts. im bet out 50 my oppenent goes allin. i think for a bit has he trips but i decide to call and he is on flush draw. he doesnt hit and i double up. a few hands later im dealt a KJs flop comes nice for my flush draw.with a possible full house on board i make my draw but he bets out. i do make the call and he has a house. nothing u can do its poker. and i undersatand that.

after a bit of more play im moved to the main table where there is a guy who has being getting good hands since i sat down. he is a solid player who knows how to get the best value for his hand and fair play to him. not really a friend of his r anything like that. but u have to respect the fact he can play and knows how to get value for his made hands. and only bets out when he has it made.

which brings me to my point. im on the button im dealt k9 muck i know but its my button i like to play it. flop brings a possible straight i bet half the pot turn makes my straight. i bet out and i get called in 2 positions the solid player and a gambler. river brngs an Ace hi straight it is checked to me so i check it also. as i say i play tight.
cards tuned over and it is chopped 3 ways. so im happy enough to get my money back at least.
but now the solid player who was in the hand with me proceeds to have a verablgo at me for the way i played the hand and then continues to slag me off to his friend who incedently when they have been in a heads up game check it down to each other.
a while later i have kj again and flop comes JJ7 no suits early postion bets out with 25 i make the call hoping to get value for my trips. folded round turn brings a 10 possible straight now. he bets 50 i rasie to 100 back to him and the solid player to whom im refering to nudges and tells my oppenent to push as he thinks im a weak player, he makes the move allin i have to call so i do. he turns QJ and river brings and Ace no help to him, i double up.

So 2 questions how would u have played the K9 straight and was he rite to have a go at me.
And second was he rite to tell another player what to do no matter what 2 cards my oppenent had.
i personally think i done the rite thing to check it with the Ace hi st8 out there.
And i personally would not get involved in a another players hand no matter what they had.

Primewise

In the second case the guy was completely out of line to get involved in the hand, at all.

You won the pot so it helped you make the profit in the end. But how would it have felt if the guy rivered you with a long shot draw on the end?

You are entitled to complain and the dealer should give him a warning, and he should be kicked off the table if he keeps doing it.

Doc Farrell

chief, do yourself a huge favour and post these kind of questions in the top thread before they get moved. I'm only trying to be of help to you by the way.

edit: yes, he was completely out of line and should have been repremanded and/or smacked.

Ste05

I'll leave it here for now, although it's very difficult to decipher exactly what happened in the hands, especially the K9 hand, so for it to remain in the main forum, you'll have to provide more detail.

"which brings me to my point. im on the button im dealt k9 muck i know but its my button i like to play it. flop brings a possible straight i bet half the pot turn makes my straight. i bet out and i get called in 2 positions the solid player and a gambler. river brngs an Ace hi straight it is checked to me so i check it also. as i say i play tight. "

What did you do Pre-Flop, I presume you called? What exactly was the flop? What was the turn that gave you a straight? And on the River what was the board.

If you want threads to stay in the main forum and not be moved to the Bad Beat Thread, first and foremost don't make posts just telling us about random hands you happened to play, we've all played loads of hands, quite alot have played well over a million hands, so obviously we don't want to read about every hand that a player played won or lost.

Then when you post about a hand that you would like advice on, we need exact details as best as you can remember, so we can help you, if the only info we get is as here in your Original Post (OP) there's very little constructive we can say, because there isn't sufficient detail and it's a little waffly. Hope this helps to make your stay on the Poker forum a little more enjoyable and beneficial for yourself and others.

phantom_lord

you're gonna have to provide a lot more details before anyone can comment on the hand.

Rod & Reel

Primewise wrote:

In the second case the guy was completely out of line to get involved in the hand, at all.

You won the pot so it helped you make the profit in the end. But how would it have felt if the guy rivered you with a long shot draw on the end?

You are entitled to complain and the dealer should give him a warning, and he should be kicked off the table if he keeps doing it.

Prime u r rite he could have hit a Q in river thus busting my stack and it did go thru my mind. but i couldnt really fold trips with decent enuff kicker. it was more the guy who told him what to do annoyed me, more than if he had hit a Q to fill up.

Primewise

Doc Farrell wrote:

chief, do yourself a huge favour and post these kind of questions in the top thread before they get moved. I'm only trying to be of help to you by the way.

edit: yes, he was completely out of line and should have been repremanded and/or smacked.

Why can't his thread stay here? I know he should provide more detail if he wants a hand analysis, but its clear his main concern is discussing the fact that another player was getting involved in the hand and being unfair. Surely that content doesn't belong in a bad beat thread.

Rod & Reel

phantom_lord wrote:

you're gonna have to provide a lot more details before anyone can comment on the hand.

hi phantom. new to here. r u referring to the K9 straight r trip js. i will gladly give more details. but it may go on for a bit thou. let me know.thanks

Marq

Rod & Reel wrote:

Prime u r rite he could have hit a Q in river thus busting my stack and it did go thru my mind. but i couldnt really fold trips with decent enuff kicker. it was more the guy who told him what to do annoyed me, more than if he had hit a Q to fill up.

you shouldn't ever fold when you're ahead, regardless of whether your stack can get 'busted' or not. In fact when you're playing cash your stack is never busted.

the guy who told him to call was totally and utterly out of line and you should have brought it up with the floorperson.

Rod & Reel

Ste05 wrote:

I'll leave it here for now, although it's very difficult to decipher exactly what happened in the hands, especially the K9 hand, so for it to remain in the main forum, you'll have to provide more detail.

"which brings me to my point. im on the button im dealt k9 muck i know but its my button i like to play it. flop brings a possible straight i bet half the pot turn makes my straight. i bet out and i get called in 2 positions the solid player and a gambler. river brngs an Ace hi straight it is checked to me so i check it also. as i say i play tight. "

What did you do Pre-Flop, I presume you called? What exactly was the flop? What was the turn that gave you a straight? And on the River what was the board.

If you want threads to stay in the main forum and not be moved to the Bad Beat Thread, first and foremost don't make posts just telling us about random hands you happened to play, we've all played loads of hands, quite alot have played well over a million hands, so obviously we don't want to read about every hand that a player played won or lost.

Then when you post about a hand that you would like advice on, we need exact details as best as you can remember, so we can help you, if the only info we get is as here in your Original Post (OP) there's very little constructive we can say, because there isn't sufficient detail and it's a little waffly. Hope this helps to make your stay on the Poker forum a little more enjoyable and beneficial for yourself and others.

no problem steo will make a better effort and will rewrite what i posted in more detail.

Doc Farrell

because he's letting off steam about poor etiquette. everyone will agree that yes, the other players were behaving very naughtily.

and it hurts my eyes.

my time on earth is too short to open these kind of threads. its only that I'm hungover that I'm replying at all.

Primewise

Doc Farrell wrote:

my time on earth is too short to open these kind of threads. its only that I'm hungover that I'm replying at all.

Great way to welcome new people to the forum dude.

Doc Farrell

ouch, you really hurt my feelings.
I'm sorry if I seemed abrasive or condescending.
I've been overworking and suffering bad beats.
And my game is going nowhere, I've become the fish at the big table.
My first love just got married. to someone else.
And recently the doctor told me that I've only another 46 years to live.
Man, I feel really bad right now. wow.
why am I SUCH an arsehole....

I'm sorry.
why did I have to open that thread.
what a wasted life I've led. better to end it quickly.

Macspower

I would say to you not to heed anything that is said in any Dublin Card room by most of the players....

As said the guy was out of line. Glad you felted him.

Mac

Doc Farrell

As I've said, you were definitely entitled to hit him. You would, in no way, get into any kind of trouble for taking that action. In fact you would be applauded for it and moved to the main table.

phantom_lord

Primewise wrote:

Great way to welcome new people to the forum dude.

could have been worse.

Rod & Reel

cash table live in the fitz, $1/$2 pot limit $2 to play. seat 3&4&5 fold
seat 6 solid player calls big blind for $2
seat 7 gambler calls for $2
seat 8 folds,
im on the button i call the blind for $2
SB calls for $1
and BB checks.
6 players to see the flop for $12.
flop comes down Js 10h 3d.
seat 1 checks
seat 2 checks
seat 6 checks
seat 7 checks
I am on the button with Kc9h
i bet out with $6 on my possible straight draw.
seat 1 folds
seat 2 folds
seat 6 calls for $6
seat 7 calls for $6
turn card Qd
seat 6 checks
seat 7 checks
i have made a K hi straight i bet $56
seat 6 calls for $56
seat 7 calls for $56
river card brings an Kd
seat 6 checks
seat 7 checks
im on the button and get a litlle scared of any Ace for a higher.

My thinking at this stage is that there is a igher straight out there and maybe some one has made it and as i have being betting on each round they r waiting for me to bet out again in order to rerasie me and then i dont know where i stand. i decide to check.
the reason im posting this thread is that after the hand the solid player procceded to verably have a go at me for the way i played the hand and then continued his verbal about me to his pal beside him. i would like to know why u think he decided to have a go at me for the way i played it. the only thing i think i did wrong r maybe rite was to check the river.
the solid player that im referring to isint a bad player by no means. im not a friend of his but i do respect him as a player.
1 last thing yes i know K9os is a muck hand but it was my button so i decided to play it
ur thoughts.

Mr.Plough

phantom_lord wrote:

could have been worse.

lol

"HEY WACKO I'M GOING TO USE THE $100 FROM KOLO TO GO PRO PLAYING .02/.04 NL AND OMAHA, IS THIS A GOOD IDEA? "

Marq

Not the worst call preflop. Limpers are teh funneh.
I'm not mad about betting the ignorant gutshot draw on the flop.
The rest is fine.

Doc Farrell

You've really been letting your signature down recently Marq. I'm sorely disappointed. Bring back the viciousness!

Rickyroma

You said in opening post that the pot was split 3 ways? All 3 showed a 9?

As played, can't see much wrong. Possibly raise to 9 or 10 on the flop, it's really just an attempted steal, last player to call was getting 4:1, priced in.

Check on the river is ok, you will only ever be called by a hand that beats you.

Rod & Reel

Rickyroma wrote:

You said in opening post that the pot was split 3 ways? All 3 showed a 9?

As played, can't see much wrong. Possibly raise to 9 or 10 on the flop, it's really just an attempted steal, last player to call was getting 4:1, priced in.

Check on the river is ok, you will only ever be called by a hand that beats you.

yes all 3 showed a nine.