Can anyone help find Maddie

DotsyQ

Hi,

I understand a lot of you might be sick of hearing about this in the news but since it happened I cant get this poor little girl out of my head.

I myself have psychic abilities that I am in the process of developing further and feel Madeline will be found but what I really would like to know is if there are any more experienced psychics/mediums out there who have tried to locate her or who have any information which might help.....??

Thanks, S

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

you can laugh at me if you want, call me crazy or whatever I don't care

I think she might be in portugal...

parsi

Oh dear God....

And why does everyone insist on calling her maddie - we don't know her. Why does sky call her parents by their first names - they don't know her.

DotsyQ

Really?? I felt she was in North Africa..on a boat near Algiers....

Do you feel she is still alive...and will she be found...

Apologies for all the questions...i'm trying my best to focus and see if I can get more using my ability but i'm afraid its not quite up to scratch yet..!

DotsyQ

parsi wrote:

Oh dear God....

And why does everyone insist on calling her maddie - we don't know her. Why does sky call her parents by their first names - they don't know her.

Your right Parsi...her name is Madeline....my apologies..its just the name I keep hearing her being called and just used it! I agree also...they should be referred to as Mr & Mrs McCann..

karynp

As strange as this may sound,for the few days before this beautiful young girls disapperance i kept being given the name Madeline,i can verify this, as i spoke to my friend in the USA asking her if she knew anyone by this name and why did i keep getting it, im afraid we got it wrong and assumed it was a new guide for me,alas,my mediumship skills are not up to scratch yet so messages come through muddled,now,when i think of her i see a cloth being placed over her little mouth,drugged,this is how she was taken, i fear greatly for her safety and will not put in words my thoughts,i am dreadfully upset by this ordeal and find i cannot even watch or listen to the reports anymore, I pray for peace for her family and hope those responsible will be found and held accountable for their terrible and heartbreaking behaviour.

Tar.Aldarion

The tribbles have he...*gasps*
http://granades.com/images/wehastrouble/wehastrouble21.jpg

karynp

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

The tribbles have he...*gasps*
http://granades.com/images/wehastrouble/wehastrouble21.jpg

Excuse me, I would politely ask that you take the time to read a topic before you post something on it, i am taken aback at your insensitiveness!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nevyn

Honestly I think due to the exposure she has be come too hot a property and quiet frankly I don't like the odds of her living through this.

kshiel

I must say I agree with Thaedyal, but I do hope they find this little girl, I cannot watch it on tv as I find my self getting to upset. She is in my prayers. maybe with a collective sending out of light some may reach this family and child in need.

Also by using their real names or pet names these people are tring to show that they are people and not objects or a piece of property to the people who took her.

Aisling&M

I got something a few days ago but it wasn't anything important and haven't been able to feel anything in the last couple of days.
I really hope and pray that they do find her and her family get their little girl back.
I agree with Kshiel. Sending as much love and vibes and energy is something we can all do for her.

Gillybean72

My little girl heard the news and said, She is in an orangy coloured house, once she showed me colour it was terracotta.. she said she was alive and crying for her mummy and daddy. Today she said she was outside the house..

Lucie is going to be good once she grows, she is strongly linked with my grandmother who passed 9 years ago who was a very strong psychic..

She insists Madeleine is alive and will be found.. I wish I had her optimism..

6th

Can anyone help find maddie? Possibly ... but should someone come forward with info if there's a very good chance they might be wrong? No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkbkkkT6ejA

Gillybean72

6th wrote:

Can anyone help find maddie? Possibly ... but should someone come forward with info if there's a very good chance they might be wrong? No.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkbkkkT6ejA

I agree, because it would give a false hope and that would be more devastating if it turned out to be wrong. Remember the miners tragedy in the States?

Oryx

I would imagine the police are already inundated with information from well meaning psychics.

No matter how hard any of us try to help here there are a number of problems. The info may be too vague, or inaccurate. You could end up wasting police time. Or no matter how sure of yourself you are, you may have a problem being believed and listened to. I think in this case no matter how strongly we feel we have to leave it up to the 'normal' investigative methods.

O/T Mordeth & Tar. Tut, tut.

gubby

The white witch in cobh was on 96fm yesterday and she said that madeline is in a boat in a marina with some other details.. I hope someone checks. even if its just to rule it out. mind you she said that she could see the no 16 which she thinks means that she will be found today 16th

Banner_girl

gubby wrote:

The white witch in cobh was on 96fm yesterday and she said that madeline is in a boat in a marina with some other details.. I hope someone checks. even if its just to rule it out. mind you she said that she could see the no 16 which she thinks means that she will be found today 16th

Strange...only mention of white witch and your post is no 16:D Anyway obviously not found on 16th.

magnumlady

It might not have meant the 16th of May. Could be another month.

Mr. Presentable

Not to burst your bubble here, people, but this is the Paranormal forum, not the refuge for the bewildered and deluded. No one is going to find anybody with "feelings" or through "spirit guides". It has never happened and is unlikely ever to happen. And before someone tells me "such and such and so and so in America", if you throw enough arrows you'll eventually get a bulls eye.

karynp

nipplenuts wrote:

Not to burst your bubble here, people, but this is the Paranormal forum, not the refuge for the bewildered and deluded. No one is going to find anybody with "feelings" or through "spirit guides". It has never happened and is unlikely ever to happen. And before someone tells me "such and such and so and so in America", if you throw enough arrows you'll eventually get a bulls eye.

What exactly do you mean by refuge for the bewildered and deluded, i have to say here that you have some neck posting a comment like that,people are concerned over a little girl going missing and if your devoid of feelings then take a hike mate, oh.......and hate to burst YOUR bubble person BUT missing people HAVE been found before by psychics so take your insensitive opinions elsewhere. This is a subject that is close to everyones heart,regardless of whether they have children or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mossieh

I find this whole thread somewhat distasteful. My views on the paranormal have been expressed here before and I think that this subject really should be left to the legitimate authorities.

I mean no disrespect but please, this all smacks of trivialisation, please drop it.

Mr. Presentable

karynp wrote:

What exactly do you mean by refuge for the bewildered and deluded, i have to say here that you have some neck posting a comment like that,people are concerned over a little girl going missing and if your devoid of feelings then take a hike mate, oh.......and hate to burst YOUR bubble person BUT missing people HAVE been found before by psychics so take your insensitive opinions elsewhere. This is a subject that is close to everyones heart,regardless of whether they have children or not!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take a moment and reconsider your post. There's nothing in mine to suggest I have less that complete sympathy for the family concerned. I am disappointed with the whole I see a number 16 type of stuff though

littlebug

As well as the predictions listed on here there are psychics who believe little Madeleine is in:

1. An apartment in Praia de Luz near where she was taken

http://www.briansprediction.com/dd/5441.htm

2. Prague

http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=2330


3. Toulouse, France

http://www.ukskeptics.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11584

among many other places I imagine.

In fairness if enough people make a prediction somebody somewhere will get it right and all the wrong predictions will be ignored. It does make the whole idea of psychics predicting where she might be found a bit farcical in my opinion and despite the best intentions of those making the predictions you can see why they wouldn’t be taken seriously.

Though 'm not as sceptical about the paranormal in general as Mossieh is I agree that this does somewhat trivialise the issue.

Oryx

nipplenuts wrote:

No one is going to find anybody with "feelings" or through "spirit guides". It has never happened and is unlikely ever to happen. And before someone tells me "such and such and so and so in America", if you throw enough arrows you'll eventually get a bulls eye.

Your attitude is common, and understandable, I just think you are wrong. But I choose not to go into why I think so on boards. By all means PM me and Ill be happy to explain where Im coming from.

Any psychic worth their salt wouldnt dare intrude in a families grief or waste police time, I think its abhorrent to do so. Im aware of cases where the family has requested that psychics NOT contact them with information because theyre sick of it. It is dangerous territory, because psychic information is so often inaccurate or of no use.

But I dont think this thread is any more trivial or distasteful than the one in AH captioned 'Missing Madeline, anyone else sick of this?'

Gillybean72

littlebug wrote:

As well as the predictions listed on here there are psychics who believe little Madeleine is in:

1. An apartment in Praia de Luz near where she was taken

http://www.briansprediction.com/dd/5441.htm

2. Prague

http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=2330


3. Toulouse, France

http://www.ukskeptics.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11584

among many other places I imagine.

In fairness if enough people make a prediction somebody somewhere will get it right and all the wrong predictions will be ignored. It does make the whole idea of psychics predicting where she might be found a bit farcical in my opinion and despite the best intentions of those making the predictions you can see why they wouldn’t be taken seriously.

Though 'm not as sceptical about the paranormal in general as Mossieh is I agree that this does somewhat trivialise the issue.

If there was a psychic who "knew" where the child was and was right.. should they keep quiet?

I have received countless emails from people about it too, Im not going to give any predictions because I just dont know...

But if it were me and with my belief in the paranormal and a psychic came forward with information, I would listen and not take some on heres attitude.

And at te end of the day, this is a PARANORMAL forum

Gillybean72

nipplenuts wrote:

Not to burst your bubble here, people, but this is the Paranormal forum, not the refuge for the bewildered and deluded. No one is going to find anybody with "feelings" or through "spirit guides". It has never happened and is unlikely ever to happen. And before someone tells me "such and such and so and so in America", if you throw enough arrows you'll eventually get a bulls eye.

Why dont you ask Scotland Yard on their policy on using psychics and mediums in their work, you might be VERY surprised. I know people who HAVE been used.

So there is no bubble to burst but your own deluded opinion on something thats NOT accurate.

Oryx

Gillcarr1972 wrote:

If there was a psychic who "knew" where the child was and was right.. should they keep quiet?

No, definitely not, and if you work as a psychic you know we should be able to give other verifiable evidence to back up anything we are claiming. If you can do that, then I think it makes what you are saying far more believeable than just seeing a number or a building. Its only when I can have things verified that I ever pass on anything I get.

With the Madeline case Ive tried too, but the information couldnt be verified for me, so I couldnt move on with it.

Gillybean72

KtK wrote:

No, definitely not, and if you work as a psychic you know we should be able to give other verifiable evidence to back up anything we are claiming. If you can do that, then I think it makes what you are saying far more believeable than just seeing a number or a building. Its only when I can have things verified that I ever pass on anything I get.

With the Madeline case Ive tried too, but the information couldnt be verified for me, so I couldnt move on with it.

I personaly at this stage dont hold out much hope, I do hope Im wrong. I havent been able to connect at al on this one, I dont know if its a case of I dont want to hear the truth or not..

Its all so crazy how it happened, doesnt bare thinking about.

Oryx

Gillcarr1972 wrote:

I personaly at this stage dont hold out much hope, I do hope Im wrong. I havent been able to connect at al on this one, I dont know if its a case of I dont want to hear the truth or not..

Sometimes that happens, its like a block, isnt it?

The only stuff I got on this was details about her clothing, which when I checked was already in the public domain, images of people around her, and a general idea of the direction she was taken. But really, nothing to go on. Its does seem more hopeless as the days go by, but theres nothing to be gained by being negative, I hope she defies the odds and is found alive.

liamdubh

DotsyQ wrote:

Hi,

I understand a lot of you might be sick of hearing about this in the news but since it happened I cant get this poor little girl out of my head.

I myself have psychic abilities that I am in the process of developing further and feel Madeline will be found but what I really would like to know is if there are any more experienced psychics/mediums out there who have tried to locate her or who have any information which might help.....??

Thanks, S

I think it's sad when "experienced psychics" (like Derek Acorah maybe?) add to the trauma of parents who are missing children by claiming they can find them, usually for personal profit at the expense of deeply felt grief. I think it's appalling. Some people genuinely think the family in this case or any similar case is just waiting for a psychic to get involved, as if that will solve it. When was the last time a psychic solved a case like this?

If there were psychics out there who could help in this case the girl or her body would have been found by now and the €5 million euro reward claimed and well earned. Ipso facto, in my opinion there is nobody out there who can help and nobody out there with genuine psychic abilities.

You obviously are genuine in your intent so why not fund your own trip to Portugal, travel to that location & search for her at your own expense. Test out your powers.

liamdubh

Gillcarr1972 wrote:

Why dont you ask Scotland Yard on their policy on using psychics and mediums in their work, you might be VERY surprised. I know people who HAVE been used.

Throw 10,000 piles of steaming **** at a wall and count how many stick to it. I don't doubt that psychics and mediums are extremely intelligent and perceptive people and this might be the reason Scotland Yard aren't completely dismissive of them.

Oryx

liamdubh wrote:

Throw 10,000 piles of steaming **** at a wall and count how many stick to it. I don't doubt that psychics and mediums are extremely intelligent and perceptive people and this might be the reason Scotland Yard aren't completely dismissive of them.

I dont quite get you. Are you saying psychic ability is a pile of steaming sh*t, or that psychics are intelligent enough to dupe people, or that their particular type of thought process is useful for lateral thinking? What?

liamdubh

KtK wrote:

I dont quite get you. Are you saying psychic ability is a pile of steaming sh*t,

No I'm not. I'm just saying that if you try something often enough you're bound to get it correct by chance some of the time. The probability of a psychic reading a person's name correctly as they walk into a room increases everytime a psychic attempts it. It's almost certain to happen if you try it often enough.

or that psychics are intelligent enough to dupe people, or that their particular type of thought process is useful for lateral thinking? What?

I think many psychics are completely full of **** and just out to get rich off of private grief (to anybody who believes in psychic abilities apologies, it's just my opinion). The psychics hot-line only €4 per minute! Stuff like that.That aside, I think anybody who earns a living from being a psychic is extremely smart and perceptive and, cynically or not, may actually be able to provide the police with help in some instances.

stevenmu

Right now there are millions of people around the world discussing the whereabouts of Madeline. Discussing it here in this context is in no way more distastefull or insensitive than that. People discussing here within the paranormal forum what they feel Madeline's situation is is entirely different to psychics approaching the family or police and looking for money.

This thread is for people to discuss what they have picked up about the situation, all posters are to stick to this topic. If anyone feels any posts are insensitive or distastefull they are free to report them or pm me. If anyone feels this thread should not be here, again they are free to report it or pm me. Further disruptions to the thread will not be tolerated.

Thanks,

Steve

karynp

nipplenuts wrote:

Take a moment and reconsider your post. There's nothing in mine to suggest I have less that complete sympathy for the family concerned. I am disappointed with the whole I see a number 16 type of stuff though

Ok, I eat humble pie here,I thought you meant generally what had been posted not just referal to the number 16 being mentioned as it wasnt quoted as that particular piece of information,sorry.

6th

Portuguese police investigate tips from clairvoyants on Madeleine

May 31, 2007, 9:35 GMT

Lisbon - Portuguese police are investigating tips from clairvoyants in the search for Madeleine McCann, the four-year-old British girl who went missing on May 3 from her bed in the holiday resort of Praia da Luz, the daily Correio da Manha reported Thursday.

Police sources said police were getting countless tips from people claiming to possess paranormal abilities by e-mail, mail or telephone.

Whenever a tip clearly mentioned a location, police followed it up in case the abductor had repented and wanted to reveal Madeleine's hiding place this way, according to the daily.

So far, however, the tips had not been useful.

Some of the clairvoyants contacting Portuguese police were British.

Well-known British medium Diane Lazarus has travelled to Portugal, reports said. Lazarus believes Madeleine is in Spain and will be returned to her parents.

Pope Benedict XVI received Madeleine's parents on Wednesday. Gerry and Kate McCann may visit Spain, Germany, the Netherlands and Morocco to keep the interest in their daughter's case alive, according to Correio da Manha.

Article HERE

Oryx

Interesting 6th. Kinda knew this would be happening from day one. Id hate to think that police time was being wasted, but in the absence of more concrete leads, whats the harm in looking into these.

6th

Yeah like they say if someone names a location they check it out. At this stage they have to try everything and if one of them turned out to be right and the police ignored it it would look bad.

stormkeeper

Gillcarr1972 wrote:

My little girl heard the news and said, She is in an orangy coloured house, once she showed me colour it was terracotta.. she said she was alive and crying for her mummy and daddy. Today she said she was outside the house..

Lucie is going to be good once she grows, she is strongly linked with my grandmother who passed 9 years ago who was a very strong psychic..

She insists Madeleine is alive and will be found.. I wish I had her optimism..

I actually got a strong shiver up my spine when I read that, although I'm still not 100% sure what those sort of shivers actually mean*, although it could mean that your daughter is right. Guess we'll find out in time. I do hope she is found alive though.

Edit: *I was told by someone psychic that they're a form of communication in the vein of yes and no. I've also been told the stronger the shiver the more resounding it is. It prolly seems a bit weird, but stranger things have happened.

Gillybean72

stormkeeper wrote:

I actually got a strong shiver up my spine when I read that, although I'm still not 100% sure what those sort of shivers actually mean*, although it could mean that your daughter is right. Guess we'll find out in time. I do hope she is found alive though.

Edit: *I was told by someone psychic that they're a form of communication in the vein of yes and no. I've also been told the stronger the shiver the more resounding it is. It prolly seems a bit weird, but stranger things have happened.

Hiya, I told someone right away about what she said, and when Morocco came out they said there were houses like that there...
Now she is 6 years old, has no explaination for how she gets things at all expect "My head told me" but she hasnt mentioned her in a while........ and I havent asked because there is something in me that doesnt want to hear the answer...

LoLth

Slightly OT but

Straight off i have to say I am a sceptic when it comes to psychic abilities. I agree there is something but I am very very wary of people who use "spells to bring good luck" - do they take the blame if the luck turns rotten ? Or people who turn to psychics to make life altering decisions instead of sitting down and thinking about it themselves. However, just because I dont agree with or necessarily believe peoples claims doesnt mean I dont want to know anything about it and so I have a question or two and a comment.

If psychics around the globe are picking up bits of info about madeleine why cant they all share this information amongst themselves and hopefully get a full picture from the multitudes of "feelings"....

I agree with the arguments that if enough people guess someone has to be right. Its probability. However if, out of 100 people who have in no way shape or form ever been in contact with one another, a significant number (10 ? 15? ) all give the same guess then I'd be tempted to say there's something out of the ordinary going on there.

About the terracotta houses... there are a lot of houses around the mediterranean area painted a terracotta colour. Especially in the south of portugal (not the algarve in particular) and Spain. So I dont necessarily believe that Morocco is a vindication of your child's ability or gift (no offense intended to yourself or the child Gillcarr1972). The child may have picked up on the houses shown in the standard panoramic shot they always do at the start of a news piece and the rest of the comment could have been a result of a deep level of empathy in your child and the ability to imagine another's situation - and no, I dont consider empathy a psychic gift though I can see how people would think it is.

---

This may seem like me taking the piss but its a legit question:

what if the kidnapper either had a pyschic of their own trying to hide the kid or they used one of these (http://www.stopabductions.com/) thought screen helmet thingies. (I do have a question about these that i will post in the other thread though)

6th

LoLth wrote:

If psychics around the globe are picking up bits of info about madeleine why cant they all share this information amongst themselves and hopefully get a full picture from the multitudes of "feelings"....

Because there are too many ego's ... imo.

Oryx

6th wrote:

Because there are too many ego's ... imo.

Not necessarily. I know you will get cases where people like to work alone or feel that 'they' are right, but most probably its the same problem as getting any group of diverse people to discuss anything. There is no one central place to do it, really.

6th

I suppose, I've seen some good group work done on really large scales such as the heal the world events.

Chunks

Hi,

Now I don't mean to offend anyone's views, beliefs or otherwise with this post. However, from my point of view (I guess I could be called a sceptic when it comes to the majority of mediums etc..)

but..

Howcome you don't get these kind of feelings and premonitions everyday for other people other than the McCann child? I mean, people go missing every single day in the same manner as this child in the news so why aren't you getting these feelings for them too?

In my opinion (my opinion, not meant to offend anyone, they're just what I think) is that because it's so well documented in the news, papers, internet, radio etc... the incident has found it's way into peoples sub-conscious therefore giving them the impression that they're having medium type 'views' and 'premonitions' and so on...

If they were any kind of geniune (again, not meant to offend, im not calling any of you non-geniune, just my view) they'd be getting these feelings on a daily if not hourly basis for all the people in the world who go missing on a very very regular basis. One poster claimed the name Madeleine was in her head before it hit the news (now I'm not calling her a liar, far from it) but again why not have the names of thousands of other children and adults in the same situation as the McCann child not been in your mind aswell??

If this incident wasn't in the news I'm pretty sure that a very very small percentage of you would have gotten these feelings.

Take for example the problems in Darfur.... there's equally as bad things happening in places like China, Indonesia, India, South America but because these problems aren't in the spotlight the majority of people ignore them or just simply don't know about them

anyway, these are my views, they're not meant to attack any of you, just to get my point of view, and other people views out there.

And yes, I do think that what has happened is horrible and I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but, it's currently happening to thousands of others in the world as you read this, the only difference is that their parents and relations don't have the money or exposure to get the name out there like the McCann child.

Oryx

Chunks wrote:

Howcome you don't get these kind of feelings and premonitions everyday for other people other than the McCann child?

Sometimes you do. One situation I dealt with, the info came completely unbidden, and bugged me till I did something with it. But if you were to leave yourself open to all kinds of info it would be like listening to 100 radio stations at once and youd go mad.

Chunks wrote:

but again why not have the names of thousands of other children and adults in the same situation as the McCann child in your mind aswell??

Because its high profile and because its a child, a lot more people are aware of it and are trying to help. They are turning their mind to it rather than simply recieving random information.

Aisling&M

One suggestion to answer some of the questions posed is that psychics/mediums are given information in languages and geographical locations that they might actually be able to pass on and use.
A lot of psychics/mediums do get random information that pertain to non-news documented cases and pass on the information as they see fit.
If you asked for a list of all psychic impressions from psychics who use this site, I'm pretty sure the memory quota for this site would fill up.

Chunks

KtK wrote:

Sometimes you do. One situation I dealt with, the info came completely unbidden, and bugged me till I did something with it. But if you were to leave yourself open to all kinds of info it would be like listening to 100 radio stations at once and youd go mad.

So you're saying that you have to learn to filter out the 'noise' ?
Howcome the poster claimed that the name Madeleine was in thier head well before it all kicked off as a high profile case? coincidence?

BTW, thank you for not jumping down my throat. A lot of the time you make a post and people who are self-conscious or not entirely secure in their beliefs start to rip your points apart and claim you're a bigot towards their views and what not. It's a relief to get a decent understanding reply. I'm sure you've witnessed it yourself when saying 'mediumy' things in a non-medium forum before..

Oryx

I thought your post was fair. I cant really speak for anyone else. I can tell you that sometimes I get messages or images or whatever, that make no sense, and maybe a few days later I realise what it was about or who it was for. I honestly dont know why you get information on some things and not others, maybe it has to do with your culture or mindset, that you get stuff that is within your own frame of reference.

Conar

KtK wrote:

I dont quite get you. Are you saying psychic ability is a pile of steaming sh*t, or that psychics are intelligent enough to dupe people, or that their particular type of thought process is useful for lateral thinking? What?

Surely if anyone had any provable psychic powers then they would be trying to get this reward:
http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

Oryx

Conar wrote:

Surely if anyone had any provable psychic powers then they would be trying to get this reward:
http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

And if i had a penny for every time Ive heard that comment I wouldnt need it

Edit: Conar, I suggest if you want to start that discussion open a new thread, but beware the charter!