who calls this?

gkenny

PokerStars Game #9874715660: Tournament #50032878, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/05/12 - 13:31:47 (ET)
Table '50032878 130' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: camidon (9702 in chips)
Seat 2: imperior (6115 in chips)
Seat 3: theeeclone (10872 in chips)
Seat 4: PokhaNutz (6432 in chips)
Seat 5: BlindMute (1440 in chips)
Seat 6: Stings (18295 in chips)
Seat 7: Zoxitic (11231 in chips)
Seat 8: kenny1208 (16332 in chips)
Seat 9: dud54 (15090 in chips)
camidon: posts the ante 50
imperior: posts the ante 50
theeeclone: posts the ante 50
PokhaNutz: posts the ante 50
BlindMute: posts the ante 50
Stings: posts the ante 50
Zoxitic: posts the ante 50
kenny1208: posts the ante 50
dud54: posts the ante 50
Zoxitic: posts small blind 300
kenny1208: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kenny1208 [Qc As]
dud54: folds
camidon: folds
imperior: folds
theeeclone: folds
PokhaNutz: folds
BlindMute: folds
Stings: folds
Stings is sitting out
Zoxitic: raises 10581 to 11181 and is all-in
kenny1208: folds
Zoxitic collected 1650 from pot
Zoxitic: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1650 | Rake 0
Seat 1: camidon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: imperior folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: theeeclone folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: PokhaNutz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: BlindMute folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Stings (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Zoxitic (small blind) collected (1650)
Seat 8: kenny1208 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: dud54 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Flushdraw

Impossible to answer without more information because a lot of time players have AK here

dougee19

almost always fold here

jimmii

Any info on the player? Unless you know he is pushing a huge range of hands I don't think you can call here. Normally your 50/50 a few times behind a LOT.

gkenny

havnt been at table very long. player hasnt been over involved. would you expect a mid pp here most times.

dougee19

gkenny wrote:

would you expect a mid pp here most times.

even if he has this, you are behind!!!
why risk all your hard work to build up those chips on a coin flip???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Chucky the tree

gkenny wrote:

havnt been at table very long. player hasnt been over involved. would you expect a mid pp here most times.

If the chaps is **** at poker then i probaly would. But anyone half decent should have you up **** creek.

gkenny

thats why i folded. would u call with ak.
just lost nearly half my stack. in bb with qq. sb pushes with a3
a on river

jimmii

If you think he has a middle PP then there isn't much difference in AK and AQ. Wait for a better spot than this to look to double up.

Lazare

I'm calling here, you're a favourite more often than it being AK. At worst you're racing, and even then I'm happy.

It's folded to the SB, he open pushes for 19BB, this is how bad players steal. AK is the only hand he does this with that dominates you. If you win a race you're sitting behind 28k and in a great position.

Unless I've only seen him push QQ+/AK, I'm calling here everytime.

bops

????

Without any specific reads its a CALL EVERYTIME

too tired to explain, i'll let someone else do it

BigCityBanker

bops wrote:

????

Without any specific reads its a CALL EVERYTIME

too tired to explain, i'll let someone else do it

^^^ what Bops said.

Lazare

gkenny wrote:

thats why i folded. would u call with ak.
just lost nearly half my stack. in bb with qq. sb pushes with a3a on river

Same villain?

gkenny

no new table

cooker3

I would put him on a middle pair most of the time along with the occasional AK so I fold.

jimmii

I think you have to make this totally player dependant. Aggressive players are pushing with a wide range of hands here tighter players are going to take there free hands coming up and look for a decent hand out of one of those. Against an unknown I don't think there is a huge EV difference between calling and folding.

insafehands

Pushing pf in that position with no callers before makes me think 77 - JJ.


I call.

bubbleking

i call at worst i feel your 50:50 here

jimmii

Wrong thread!!

cooker3

insafehands wrote:

Pushing pf in that position with no callers before makes me think 77 - JJ.


I call.

Your only 44% to win if that is his range.

insafehands

True, 44.91% at best according to CardPlayer.

Guess it depends on chip counts, player etc.

I'm always willing to take a coin-flip anyway.

NickyOD

The last 2 times I made a call here against a similar sized push with AK I was up against J8s and Q7s and both were higher buy in freeze outs and not early on in the tournament either.