How bad are the party political broadcasts!

zappy

Anyone seen the party political broadcasts recently? Oh they're hilariously bad.

The the acting in Labour's one is shockingly awful. Never seen such bad acting outside of Fair City, say ten years ago.

And as for FF, the 'ah sure, its grand like' attitute shines through. Like people have no ambition whatsoever. And the good things they mention that FF did, there seems to be only two major achievements – the economy and Northern Ireland – the rest were pathetically minor issues like a plastic bag tax! Its quite honest, I suppose like, I'd say they don't really have any major achievements anywhere else, which you expect there to be after 10 years. And being thankful to FF for running water??? Whats that about? It may be running, are you sure its not polluted?!? Oh and lets not turn this into a FF achievement thread please!

Not seen the others yet... can't wait :-)

Lennoxschips

I thought Enda Kenny's one was suprisingly impressive.

InFront

They really should not use actors. Unless you're going to hire the likes of Dustin Hoffman, or at least Gabriel Byrne, then you really shouldn't try at all.

Party political broadcasts are one situation where you really can't afford bad acting, it makes everything else seem fake and badly rehearsed too.

The opposition would be better of walking down the street with a TV camera and a mic, and showing genuine distaste for the FFPD government and seeking genuine opinions on proposed Government policy. I haven't seen the FG one yet, I hope it's better than the Labour and FF broadcasts.

why does enda keep asking me to sign a contract?
I will sign nothing without legal advice!

InFront

I love the sketch they do about him on (I think?) 2fm in the mornings about that, it sounds like him too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCpjdRI24Bk

/edit: Uses offensive language, may be offensive to some.

DeepBlue

Are these the broadcasts?

Fianna Fail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Jc-frhJ1Y

Fine Gael

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX-Rt7JIhIw

Labour Party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEQNbKdh1fg

Dandesav

I have to say the acting in the Labour one is TERRIBLE!!! But at least there was a poing to it, and they got the 5 changes across in it!

The FG one wasn't too bad- Enda looked so serious!

The FF one was a joke! Are they actually claiming credit for people having electricity, phones and TVs?!! I mean what'll we get after another 5 years, running water? :rolleyes:

lucernarian

In Galway, perhaps, mabye, they *might* have running, drinkable water in a year or two.

Lennoxschips

ooh! plastic bag levy! i'm so impressed!

jb91

The people at the start of the FF one are laughing at whoever asked them to vote for the Fianna Failures :rolleyes:

Mick86

zappy wrote:

Anyone seen the party political broadcasts recently?

No, Thank God. And I don't read their junk mail either. I'm also blessed by having moved to a quiet village a while back where there are not enough people to entice the canvassers. I'm going on holidays next Saturday so with a little luck I might miss the whole thing.:D

simu

They're all brutal but Labour's is comically so.

28064212

DeepBlue wrote:

Are these the broadcasts?...

Yep, that's them.

Labour's is very poor alright, especially when they have such a good speaker in Pat Rabbitte. Using 'real stories' when you're going on about how sucky things are make it look like you got a bunch of whingers, irrespective of whether their points are valid or not.

At least with Fianna Fáil's, it's a positive attitude. But the OP's points are pretty accurate, there's very much an attitude of "f*ck it, don't rock the boat". Having someone at the end saying "Don't spoil it" smacks of desperation. Whoever in the party thought it would be a good idea to have the aul' one talk about electricity etc. should be taken out, given a course in PR, and then shot. Nothing in the broadcast makes it look like they have any plans for the future. Of the significant achievements they do mention, the only truly impressive one that they can take full credit for is the smoking ban, and to a limited degree, the success of the economy. Although in reality the EU and foreign companies had more to do with it than Fianna Fáil.

The National Treatment Purchase Fund was set up because of the hames they made of the public health service. Child-care is still prohibitively expensive. They have average Joes saying stuff like "less taxes=more money for me" or "Ireland has a green image abroad, farmers can be very proud of that". Saying we wouldn't have a peace process in Northern Ireland without Fianna Fáil is a crock of sh*t, it's the politicians in Northern Ireland who have done the work. Bertie just showed up for a few photo-shoots. Unfortunately, I think that this broadcast is going to play very well in the sticks. I suppose I should consider myself lucky that Bertie doesn't appear in it. Significant enough that he's the only leader that's not in his parties' broadcast.

Fine Gael's one impressed me. Kenny comes across very well, and the style is one that Labour would have done well to follow. In particular, he looks and sounds very much like leadership material in the Ard Fheis speech section. When he's talking about 'change' and 'new government', having Pat Rabbitte in the shots is a clever move, looking towards the transfer votes. Kenny appears honest and direct in the video, which contrasts very well with Bertie's general habit of talking without saying anything. If Kenny talks as well on the Primetime debate as he does on this, he'll wipe the floor with Ahern and gain a significant boost for FG in the election.

Oh, and lol at Myth's posting taking the p*ss out of Kenny

Dandesav

28064212 wrote:

Fine Gael's one impressed me. Kenny comes across very well, and the style is one that Labour would have done well to follow. In particular, he looks and sounds very much like leadership material in the Ard Fheis speech section. When he's talking about 'change' and 'new government', having Pat Rabbitte in the shots is a clever move, looking towards the transfer votes. Kenny appears honest and direct in the video, which contrasts very well with Bertie's general habit of talking without saying anything. If Kenny talks as well on the Primetime debate as he does on this, he'll wipe the floor with Ahern and gain a significant boost for FG in the election.

I agree- he looked very sincere and honest, very statesmand-like. I'm a little worried about the debate, but hopefully he can across like he does on the broadcast.

Akrasia

Has anyone seen the 'Christian Solidarity Party' Election ad?

It was on last night before the 'state of us'
Hilarious stuff.

Straight out of the 1950s... not too out of place for such a conservative party.

Seth Brundle

I saw the CSP broadcast last night. Unreal!

28064212

Akrasia wrote:

Has anyone seen the 'Christian Solidarity Party' Election ad?

Youtube link anybody?

kmick

Please please tell me someone has the Christain party one on youtube. The guy had one milky eye. He could not pronounce any of the big words and he stammered a lot. it was awesome.

Seth Brundle

Don't forget Pat Fitzggerald in Arklow...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5bcuL2BOwE

simu

Dandesav wrote:

I agree- he looked very sincere and honest, very statesmand-like. I'm a little worried about the debate, but hopefully he can across like he does on the broadcast.

Eh? This contract is so good I put my name to it. Foreman Grill anyone?

The Christian Solidarity or whatever one was just... bizzarre.

Gael

Green video here

Zaphod

Gael wrote:

Green video here

The GP video is probably the slickest PPB I've ever seen in Ireland. I wonder if it was an in-house concept or some outside PR firm who came up with it?

Meanwhile FF have called in some "big guns" for their latest offering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5B-r116PSc

The closing sequence of about 15 seconds is the most interesting. I never, ever thought I would see Ian Paisley being used as a political endorsement by any party, least of all FF. Just goes to show how times have changed.

yomchi

The FF PPB looks like Bertie's obituary. Tacky to say the least

The_Minister

My favorites so far are:
1) FF (the new one)
2) FG
3) FF the old one
3) Lab
4) CSP

I haven't watched the Greens yet.

EDIT: Just watched the Greens. It's cheesy, manipulative bollix.

yomchi

I thought SF's one was good...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIcOwsD1Xuo&mode=related&search=

Couldn't resist

simu

The Green one was good alright. Cheesy but I can see many votes identifying with it.

I didn't like the FF Peace Process one - seemed more like something you'd see on TV after Bertie's gone. Too much looking back at the past. They should have tried to show what Bertie's leet people skillz will do to get us through the next 5 years!

28064212

simu wrote:

I didn't like the FF Peace Process one - seemed more like something you'd see on TV after Bertie's gone. Too much looking back at the past. They should have tried to show what Bertie's leet people skillz will do to get us through the next 5 years!

Both of Fianna Fáil's broadcasts looked purely at the past. There wasn't one mention about any of their plans for the future.

The Green's was very well done, and I reckon could've earned them a couple of undecideds. It worked a lot better than the other two which used 'real people' (FF and Labour).

marie_85

FF's amuses me. As I saw someone point out either here or on politics.ie, Dev would be turning in his grave to see FF using the British PM's endorsement as a method of getting votes.

thelepo

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Ok lads, I'm trying to embed here, a little help?

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/misc.php?do=bbcode#youtube

thelepo

Greens PPB embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSz8wNMTSbk

agus an ceann eile atá as gaeilge,

Ceard a cheapann sibh (g no h? Níl a fhuis agam níos mó, níor scríobh mé i nGaeilge i gceann cúpla bhlian.)

Zaphod

Useful free publicity for the price of a few pikes and a gallon of diesel.

(Photo: Don MacMonagle, Irish Examiner).

jjbrien

One or two of the FF ones the one thatr says we have our ESB and phones. The camera man looks like he was drunk the camera was sweaying from side to side quite badly and got more rocky towords the end.

They claim they setup running and gaa clubs. What a load of **** they claim things that normal people like you and I setup.

Ohh and the young lad speaking irish its like he is trying to say look at me I am speaking Irish. He is in the last 20 seconds of the ad but hes so annoying

simu

jjbrien wrote:

Ohh and the young lad speaking irish its like he is trying to say look at me I am speaking Irish. He is in the last 20 seconds of the ad but hes so annoying

Yeah, tis always the case with government ads and things in Irish too. They never use native speakers and the people they do use usually sound really fake. As in, using their Irish for the first time since the Leaving cert 20 years before level of fakeness.

Zaphod

Zaphod wrote:

Useful free publicity for the price of a few pikes and a gallon of diesel.

(Photo: Don MacMonagle, Irish Examiner).

Jebus. When someone said in another thread of how it looked like a picture from 1930s Germany, they weren't wrong.

simu

Myth wrote:

Jebus. When someone said in another thread of how it looked like a picture from 1930s Germany, they weren't wrong.

And not a woman in sight. Old skool.