Behringer od100

Jonakin

http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_od100.htm
Is this good and would it be suitable for playing metal? Its only 12.30 and im wondering if i already have a pedal and i plug it into this one and i turn them both on with loads of distortion will i get more distortion with both or the same with just one?

TelePaul

Jonakin wrote:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_od100.htm
Is this good and would it be suitable for playing metal? Its only 12.30 and im wondering if i already have a pedal and i plug it into this one and i turn them both on with loads of distortion will i get more distortion with both or the same with just one?

For the money I'd go with it. I wouldn't recommend plugging one pedal into another, unless one is a boost of some sort. What's the other pedal that you have?

Voodu Child

Behringer pedals are complete crap. Cheap plastic cases, lousy jack sockets, flimsy power connectors.

They're nice and cheap, so you may still decide to buy one, but don't expect it to last long.

As for whether it's any good for metal, I doubt it. And running one overdrive pedal into another (or a distortion) can be done, but if you want a tight metal sound, running two ODs into each other isnt the way to get it.

-=al=-

12.30, ha!

i actually like by behringer tube overdrive pedal, its cheap but works aok

its only 12.30 though! id like to try it

TelePaul

-=al=- wrote:

12.30, ha!

i actually like by behringer tube overdrive pedal, its cheap but works aok

its only 12.30 though! id like to try it

Is that the TS9 knock-off? It's a great pedal!

-=al=-

yea, I think so

theres a vintage tube overdrive too but tis twice as dear, but yah tubescreamers copys, there not bad at all

jimi_t

voodoo_child wrote:

Behringer pedals are complete crap. Cheap plastic cases, lousy jack sockets, flimsy power connectors.

This one is 12.30

Say it again... 12.30

I mean don't be expecting BOSS standard, but go at it with a soldering iron and a few spare parts from the box and you'd probably be able to knock a half decent TS9 clone from it with little effort.

Voodu Child

jimi_t wrote:

This one is 12.30

Say it again... 12.30

I mean don't be expecting BOSS standard, but go at it with a soldering iron and a few spare parts from the box and you'd probably be able to knock a half decent TS9 clone from it with little effort.

Yeah, 12.30 exactly.

If you work backwards from everybody who gets their cut, there's probably 50 cent worth of components in it. Whether it sounds sh1t or not, it'll fall apart on you sooner or later. Probably while you're onstage. Or it'll just piss you off by cutting on and off while your practicing at home, and you'll throw it in the bin.

And seriously, who is going to go at it with a soldering iron? Remove the jack connectors and put in good ones, a sturdier switch, better power input.... For fe(k sake, is an hour or two of your time fiddling with something really worth less than the 20 or 25 quid extra you'd pay to buy something decent?

And that's even assuming it DOES sound decent, which it probably doesnt. What's the buffer like? Not Boss standard, thats for sure.

Nah, buy it if you have a tenner burning a hole in your pocket, that's fine (i'd buy a few pints tbh). But don't try to justify it as a TS9 clone on the cheap.

TelePaul

voodoo_child wrote:

But don't try to justify it as a TS9 clone on the cheap.

Have you heard it, no?

Voodu Child

TelePaul wrote:

Have you heard it, no?

I believe the fella that bought my Mesa/Boogie studio 22+ off me brought one with him when he was buying it. If it wasnt this one, it was a behringer of some sorts.

Sounded like a zoom 505 or something. Not TS-9 territory.

But sound is subjective, so i'll leave that argument aside. Build quality is what im getting at. Really cheap stuff is a false economy. I've been down that road before, most guys have. Pedals that cut out at the worst time, cables that pull apart when you try to remove them from quality (ie strong & sturdy) sockets.

You'll only end up buying something better a couple of months down the line.

TelePaul

voodoo_child wrote:

I believe the fella that bought my Mesa/Boogie studio 22+ off me brought one with him when he was buying it. If it wasnt this one, it was a behringer of some sorts.

Sounded like a zoom 505 or something. Not TS-9 territory.

But sound is subjective, so i'll leave that argument aside. Build quality is what im getting at. Really cheap stuff is a false economy. I've been down that road before, most guys have. Pedals that cut out at the worst time, cables that pull apart when you try to remove them from quality (ie strong & sturdy) sockets.

You'll only end up buying something better a couple of months down the line.

The sound isn't bad, not by a long shot. I've had two Marshall pedals break on me...I think boss is the best combination of sound vs construction quality.

jimi_t

voodoo_child wrote:

And seriously, who is going to go at it with a soldering iron? Remove the jack connectors and put in good ones, a sturdier switch, better power input.... For fe(k sake, is an hour or two of your time fiddling with something really worth less than the 20 or 25 quid extra you'd pay to buy something decent?

12 quid for this, 129 for a tubescreamer. Even the cheapest BOSS dist/OD is 40 quid dearer. This is regardless of the fact that many people enjoy fiddling about with electronics - especially pedals, given the huge amount of DIY sites on the web. Also, at this price level the pedal is going to probably be bought by students - time rich, cash poor. See where I'm coming from?

don't try to justify it as a TS9 clone on the cheap.

Why not? I was about to say have you heard it but then I saw this

I believe the fella that bought my Mesa/Boogie studio 22+ off me brought one with him when he was buying it. If it wasnt this one, it was a behringer of some sorts.Sounded like a zoom 505 or something. Not TS-9 territory.

Well, beauty is in the ear of the beholder and all that, but it definitely doesn't sound like the zoom 505 with its crippled frequency range, stepping and digital artifacts galore. By the sheer grace of it being analog, the replacement of a single cap with a germanium counterpart would make a HUGE difference in the sound. At over 100 euro less than the TS-9 it's obviously not going to have the same sound, and its not going to have the famous BOSS build quality, but for those of us who don't have Mesa/Boogie gear, its not a bad buy.

Voodu Child

jimi_t wrote:

for those of us who don't have Mesa/Boogie gear, its not a bad buy.

Well, that's where I disagree. Very cheap gear is always a false economy in my experience (be it guitars, amps, pedals, cables, whatever).

Just because I play a M/B now doesnt mean i havent bought or used just about every piece of cheap crap over the years. I was a cash poor student once too

If you can't afford to swing a Boss, there's cheaper mid-range stuff, and second hand as always. Same advice i'd give to someone looking at a E100 squier. Waste of money when it falls apart.

(the hobbyist bit is irrelevant - A)This isnt a kit it's a pretty crap base to start putting good components into, C) Where are all these hobbyists? I'd sooner spend an extra 30 quid than waste hours fe(ckin around when you could have earned that 30 quid in half the time anyhow..)

Beecher

jimi_t wrote:

12 quid for this, 129 for a tubescreamer.

There's also the middle ground of the Digitech Bad Monkey which can be got for €30-€40 off Ebay. Build quality is fine and it sounds great through all my amps!

jimi_t

voodoo_child wrote:

Well, that's where I disagree. Very cheap gear is always a false economy in my experience (be it guitars, amps, pedals, cables, whatever).

Cables I'd agree strongly with. Amps are generally hard to feck up tbh - there's not a huge amount of difference at the cheaper end of the solid state market barring the microcube. Ditto guitars to some extent (SX aren't bad).

On the matter of pedals, nope. It's definitely a matter of choice. Some of the best sounding pedals homebrew pedals I've hear were made using the cheapest, most inferior components. Why? Because these inconsistencies make for a more musical tone, ditto the coveted Bucket Brigade analog delay chips.

If you can't afford to swing a Boss, there's cheaper mid-range stuff

Not really. The only thing that comes to mind are the cheaper Danelectro pedals, which I'd recommend behringer gear over tbh.

(the hobbyist bit is irrelevant -
A)This isnt a kit
it's a pretty crap base to start putting good components into,

As a base I really can't see a problem with it. Rehouse it in a different enclosure if thats your problem, but they're sturdy enough. The components are basically sound, barring maybe the 1/4" jacks. The PCB or serroboard or whatever is inconsequential. The only weakpoint with this cheap gear is the solder joints, and they can be fixed with very basic know how. As for the 'good components' thing, transistors and caps and stuff are literally pennies a piece even if you can't butcher it from other gear. I mean boutique stuff, fair enough, but f you can't afford anything better than behringer stuff you're not going to be willing to drop 40 quid on a rare capacitor, are you?

C) Where are all these hobbyists? I'd sooner spend an extra 30 quid than waste hours fe(ckin around when you could have earned that 30 quid in half the time anyhow..)

Thats fine, some people just don't get it. Half the enjoyment of it is in learning something new, practising a skill and being able to say "I made that". To sum it up nicely

Voodu Child

Like I said already, the hobbyist argument is irrelevant; you can use that logic to justify buying anything cheap & crappy. The further you go down that road, the further you get away from the original post.

----> Is the pedal good? In my opinion, No. Super-cheap stuff rarely is.

Den_M

No power supply with it though I'd say

-=al=-

......mmm noppe

Karl Hungus

You know, I think that the Behringer gear really isn't that bad at all, especially considering the price. Not bad for beginners, and those on a budget. I have a Behringer V-Amp Pro myself, and it didn't fall apart on me, in the 2 years or so I've had it. Sounds pretty good too.

-=al=-

i dont think there stuff is that bad at all, did u see the documentrys on their factory tours????


i dont know if i posted them here but tis a very intersting insight to behringer and how they started and get on now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqUGLUJF7y4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LKnQl8gbkQ

The Freeman

cheers for that al interesting insight in to more 'high end' factory work in china;)

regarding the pedal- if you intending gigging with it i wouldn't bother, but if its for messing around with and jamming ya can't go wrong for the price of 2 pints
if ya like tinkering with electronics also i'd say fire ahead

-=al=- wrote:

i dont think there stuff is that bad at all, did u see the documentrys on their factory tours????


i dont know if i posted them here but tis a very intersting insight to behringer and how they started and get on now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqUGLUJF7y4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LKnQl8gbkQ