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  • 08-05-2007 7:36pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭


    Okay guys. I drive a 2000 Vectra 2.0l Di. Last night I was driving on the main Lifford - Letterkenny road and decided to overtake the idiot driving at 40 kph. So I dropped down a gear and .........nothing. The engine died and I had to pull in with the hazard lights flashing. I did notice the immobiliser light came on just as I changed gear. I managed to get a tow to my parents house and arrange for a local mechanic to tow it today (he didn't show up) but he will have it tomorrow. I have tried to start it since with no luck. The engine is turning but not firing. the battery is fine. Any ideas before the mechanic gets his paws on it?

    Thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Assuming all the fluids are fine, and there's no history of anything perhaps its an ECU problem maybe? Fuel pump?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,440 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    Was it low on fuel? Might have been dirt getting into the system

    Did you notice any smoke from the exhaust? Turbo might have blown though you probably would have seen the smoke.

    Is it well serviced? It might be something relatively simple, don't panic yet. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Any Turbo Diesel I've had which lost the turbo you just lose power. It usually still runs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    No panic here. I filled it with diesel about five minutes earlier. :D I didn't notice any smoke as it was dark at the time. One thing, last November, I had to get a data cable replaced as the power kept cutting out and in. (Please don't ask me to explain as my working with cars is fuel, oil and water).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    smashey wrote:
    I filled it with diesel about five minutes earlier.

    Are you sure it was diesel you put in? Didn't fill it with petrol?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Onkle wrote:
    Are you sure it was diesel you put in? Didn't fill it with petrol?

    Definitely diesel. I have the receipt here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    Just said I'd throw it up there. Did I scare you?

    Was the car really low when you filled it up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    It was relatively low. The light hadn't come on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Possibly contaminated diesel? Reputable service station?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    A reputable station and a very busy one. I buy diesel regularly from them.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    http://www.vectra-sport.com/forum/index.php

    ask over on that website if you dont have any luck here first
    Was it the engine warning light that came on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Have you had any problems will 'fuel delivery', hard starting, hesitation etc, it could be (whisper it) - the fuel pump. Hope not, they cost a fortune.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭TychoCaine


    Could you have mis-shifted, from 4th to 1st rather than 3rd? You could have over-revved it and either damaged it or stuck it in "safe mode".


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    A friend of mine had a similar problem with their diesel Astra (not a 2 litre though), turned out to be some chip related to the fuel pump that failed, and he was told it was a relatively common fault.

    As I say, his car wasn't the 2l TD, though the fault might be common on both engines?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    TychoCaine wrote:
    Could you have mis-shifted, from 4th to 1st rather than 3rd? You could have over-revved it and either damaged it or stuck it in "safe mode".
    Don't think so. :D
    mike65 wrote:
    Have you had any problems will 'fuel delivery', hard starting, hesitation etc, it could be (whisper it) - the fuel pump. Hope not, they cost a fortune.
    No such problems. My thinking is either "fuel pump" or electrical and I hope it is the latter.
    byte wrote:
    A friend of mine had a similar problem with their diesel Astra (not a 2 litre though), turned out to be some chip related to the fuel pump that failed, and he was told it was a relatively common fault.
    I hope it is so easy diagnosed.

    Blindjustice, I will check out that forum.

    Thanks for all the replies guys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    I never thought fuel pumps were that expensive. ECU problems can be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,549 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Wouldn't have anything to do with carrying ewes in the back seat :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭hobochris


    My cousin had the same thing happen on a Fiat Brava a couple of years ago..

    it was a loose connection for the immobiliser. could be the same for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭what_car


    smashey wrote:
    Okay guys. I drive a 2000 Vectra 2.0l Di. Last night I was driving on the main Lifford - Letterkenny road and decided to overtake the idiot driving at 40 kph. So I dropped down a gear and .........nothing. The engine died and I had to pull in with the hazard lights flashing. I did notice the immobiliser light came on just as I changed gear. I managed to get a tow to my parents house and arrange for a local mechaninc to tow it today (he didn't show up) but he will have it tomorrow. I have tried to start it since with no luck. The engine is turning but not firing. the battery is fine. Any ideas before the mechanic gets his paws on it?

    Thanks
    possibly water in diesel? sometimes the orange light comes on when there is water in the fuel system... happened me a few years ago.
    take a sample of diesel from your tank..and see if theres any water in it..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Got the thing checked out and it is the diesel injector pump. :eek: There goes the weekend.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    :( I'd nearly suggest geting one from a breakers except it'll proberly need replacing in no time.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    The breakers it is for now. £200 - 250 stg. I might buy a bicycle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Try diesel repair specialists - you might get it reconditioned at a lower price than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    I aready have it. Should be fitted tomorrow.

    Thanks all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Thats not too bad and easy fix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    BostonB wrote:
    Thats not too bad and easy fix.

    Mmmmm.

    My mechanic described it as awkward. We'll see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    smashey wrote:
    Mmmmm.

    My mechanic described it as awkward. We'll see.

    I meant its a specific problem, rather than some random ECU or similar fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    Sorry BostonB, I picked you up wrongly there. :o You're right, at least we know what it is.


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