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2 Omaha Hands Live 1 -1

  • 08-05-2007 6:37pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭


    7 handed
    My image is tight aggresive(I think,i've been playing with these guys for year and half cept seat 1)

    Seat 1 is real fcukin bad omaha player

    Seat 1 250
    Seat 2 300
    Seat 3 200
    Seat 4 850 (Button)
    Seat 5 HERO 750 (SB)
    Seat 6 250 (BB)



    delt to hero ( 4d , 4h , 3s , 6h)

    5 on the blind from UTG
    everyone calls

    pot 30

    Flop Qc 10c 4s


    hero bets 25

    Seat 6 folds
    Seat 1 calls
    Seat 2 calls
    Seat 3 folds
    Seat 4 calls

    turn 5 diamonds Board Qc 10c 4s 5d

    At this stage I hadnt realised seat 2 was in the pot,so I thought I was against the bad player and seat 4.

    Hero bets 80

    seat 1 calls
    seat 2 calls
    seat 4 calls

    River 2 of spades Board qc 10c 4s 5 d 2h

    I have the nuts 3 6

    pot is 450.

    At this stage I actually thought for quite a while(not hollywooding) but thinking should I check and let someone have a pop off it since its clear that I was more than likely betting with a set.

    Seat 2 and Seat 4 in my opinion in certain situations could be capable of snatching this pot.But neither are down money or tilting which makes in less likely.Seat 1 (bad player) doesnt bluff but he sure as hell doesnt fold either.

    So My question is should I check hoping for someone to bluff?
    Or bet and if so what amount?









    Some players have joined and left all seats same players.These stacks are 100% but there pretty much right

    2nd hand

    Seat 1 200
    Seat 2 200
    Seat 3 250 button
    Seat 4 1100 (SB)
    Seat 5 HERO 1050 (BB)
    Seat 6 170

    Dealt to HERO(Jd Jh kc qc)

    everyone limps for 1
    Hero does the Zeik sweetner out of the BB to 5
    all call

    Flop Ad Js 3h

    pot 30

    sb checks
    HERO checks
    Checked around

    turn 8s Board Ad Js 3h 8s

    sb checks
    Hero bets 30
    seat 6 calls
    seat 1 calls
    seat 2 calls
    seat 3 folds
    seat 4 calls

    pot 180

    River 4 d

    sb checks
    Hero checks
    seat 6 checks
    seat 1 (the bad player)bets 50(115 euro behind)
    folded to hero

    pot 230
    ????

    Should I flat call here/fold or put him all in for his last 115
    One thing I know is theres no fold equity
    I prolly can be called by a worse hand
    With so many callers there is more of chance one of the players(him) straight connected.
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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    I assume it wasnt a club on the river. I'd bet it and probably the pot. I doubt the missed draws are going to bluff and you might get a crying call from top two or even middle set. Noone's going to put you on the backdoor nut straight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭dougee19


    definate bet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Flipper


    Your post is wrong. you say 2c but I assume you mean 2s?

    I would never check the river. You were being called by clubs and/or straight draws so the best you can do is pot it to the max and pray that someone backed into the wheel (A3XX).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭SpermManJelly


    Other proper thread up.Could mods lock this please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    I deleted the other thread and just copied and pasted the hand in this one with some replies...

    Are these replies related to the same hands??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭SpermManJelly


    they are ya

    m post is edited witht he 2 of hearts as ian and flipper said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭Marq


    hand one I lead for the pot.

    hand two I raise pot on the river.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 The_Prof


    WOW, fabulously interesting hands here.

    In hand 1 definitely bet the river. There's no point in checking because the way the hand played out and the texture of the board it's unlikely that anybody has a hand that's going to bet for value on the river and call a check-raise that isn't going to call a chunky 3/4-potsized bet on the river anyway.

    I say do a little hollywood, moan and grunt a bit, throw 3-4 black €100 chips, sneak the remainder of your chips into your pocket and exclaim "alright lads im all-in, time to go home". When someone then makes a thin call with twopair or whatever, do a little jump, laugh in their face and say to them "I ROPED YA IN LAD, I ROPED YA IN" I've seen this done on more than one occasion in the Macau, with plenty of success.


    As for hand 2, I would either lead the flop or check-raise the turn. This is because plenty of players would semi-bluff the turn with a draw after nobody's shown strength, so you could potentially build quite a big pot. Still, leading isn't so bad either.

    I would then flat call the bet, unless he's the kind of player to value-bet and then proceed to call off his stack with a worse hand enough to make it worthwhile putting him all-in. However, you're the person who's going to have the best guess as to whether or not it's +EV to stick him in there, as you were the one playing with him / observing him during the hand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Do not check..in this situation i am betting potus maximus...if as you say they put you on a set they will only call with a straight or a bigger set (which would have raised earlier), they will not call with two pair etc. You will not get called by a weak hand by betting for a call, so just go ahead and bet the pot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭SpermManJelly


    Hand 1

    I bet enough to put the bad player all in.He called and showed 3,3,5,5 no flush draw.Had called the flop bet with 2 under pairs hit a higher set and then 'trapped me good'.

    Hand 2

    I Flat called and was sickened to see the bad player had once again turned a set against me and got tricky,He showed 88 for a lower set and something else.


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