Giggs 9th Medal Greatest Premiership Player??

ROCKMAN · 08-05-2007 11:05am #1

I was just reading a link to an old post/thread. The old thread was about "fergie being voted the greatest manager of all time etc ", one post caught my eye and started me thinking. The individual post was asking about the greatest player ever to play in the Premiership .
So my question is does the fact that Giggs won his Ninth winner's medal at the weekend automatically give him this title/reward ??

Pepe LeFrits · 08-05-2007 11:10am

No.

_blank_ · 08-05-2007 11:11am

Yes.

Mr Alan · 08-05-2007 11:16am

Nope - Giggs is not the best player to ever play in the Premiership.

Difference between being the greatest player to ever play in a league and being that leagues most decorated player

irishpartyboy · 08-05-2007 11:16am

It means Gigg's is most successful premiership player of all time, perhaps not the best. But certainly up there if your consider his achievements.

ziggy · 08-05-2007 11:21am

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Thanx 4 The Fish · 08-05-2007 11:24am

ROCKMAN wrote:

So my question is does the fact that Giggs won his Ninth winner's medal at the weekend automatically give him this title/reward ??

Not even the best player in the premiership at United.. So no..

PHB · 08-05-2007 11:25am

I wouldn't say he is the best.
Like if we were just going based on one seasons performance, I think players like Pires, Keane, Henry, Cantona, Vieira would all be there.

That said, he is the best left winger to ever play in the premiership.
He is one of the best players to play in the premiership.
I don't think he is the best, but defo up there.

Mr. Presentable · 08-05-2007 11:30am

No.

At best he can be considered the player with most PL winners medals.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't former Chelsea player Deschamps
1998 FIFA World Cup winner
Euro 2000 winner
Champions League winner 1993, 1996
Intercontinental cup winner 1996
European Super Cup winner 1996
Ligue 1 winner 1991, 1992, 1993
Serie A winner 1995, 1997, 1998
Italian Cup winner 1995
Italian Super Cup winner 1995, 1997
F.A. Cup winner 2000

Surely by your criteria he'd be the best player ever to play in the Premiership, while clearly no-one would argue he was

Savman · 08-05-2007 11:46am

If medals meant everything then heck, Shearer musta been crap altogether :rolleyes:

Mossy Monk · 08-05-2007 12:22pm

ROCKMAN wrote:

So my question is does the fact that Giggs won his Ninth winner's medal at the weekend automatically give him this title/reward ??

Absolutely not. As mentioned there are players even at Manchester United better than him. Let alone the entire league and those who have retired and so on. Giggs is a good player, but not the greatest.

Vince135792003 · 08-05-2007 12:27pm

He'd be up there in my opinion.

s8n · 08-05-2007 12:27pm

Savman wrote:

If medals meant everything then heck, Shearer musta been crap altogether :rolleyes:

He was indeed

Savman · 08-05-2007 12:38pm

s8n wrote:

He was indeed

:rolleyes:
Educate yourself ffs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Shearer

damienom · 08-05-2007 12:43pm

How many people would have said Hansen was the greatest player to grace the English game before Saturday?

Giggs broke his record but still can't be considered to be the greatest as magnificant as he was.

Nunu · 08-05-2007 12:52pm

nipplenuts wrote:

No.

At best he can be considered the player with most PL winners medals.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't former Chelsea player Deschamps
1998 FIFA World Cup winner
Euro 2000 winner
Champions League winner 1993, 1996
Intercontinental cup winner 1996
European Super Cup winner 1996
Ligue 1 winner 1991, 1992, 1993
Serie A winner 1995, 1997, 1998
Italian Cup winner 1995
Italian Super Cup winner 1995, 1997
F.A. Cup winner 2000

Surely by your criteria he'd be the best player ever to play in the Premiership, while clearly no-one would argue he was

??????

Deschamp has no premiership medals.
The OP is asking the question should he be considered the greatest premiership player because of his premiership medals - not his overall medal haul.

It's a valid argument in my opinion.

ROCKMAN · 08-05-2007 1:22pm

My own opinion is that Giggs is a great player and i fully agree with PHB view that he is the best left winger to play in the premiership. And although he is the most successful player (medals wise) this fact alone those not automatically give him the title of greatest Premiership Player. However he would definitely be up there .
But like all threads about "THE GREATEST............... " there will ever be any answer that will have 100% agreement . Everybody see these things different whether u base your opinion on personal memories, club loyalties, success, personal tastes or type of player etc..
Example Here's Five... Keane, Henry, Cantona, Shearer and Le Tissier all greats and legends but try a poll/thread and you know the debate and argument will start

Guy:Incognito · 08-05-2007 3:26pm

Winning lots of medals in a team sport doesnt translate into being the best player. good as he was, Alan Hansen wanst to best player ever to play in England up until last weekend.

If Utd won the next 10 PL's in a row with John O'Shea in the squad, I seriously doubt anyone would be calling him the best ever player in PL history.

The Muppet · 08-05-2007 3:33pm

ROCKMAN wrote:

Everybody see these things different whether u base your opinion on personal memories, club loyalties, success, personal tastes or type of player etc..
Example Here's Five... Keane, Henry, Cantona, Shearer and Le Tissier all greats and legends but try a poll/thread and you know the debate and argument will start

There could be no argument there, the much loved Keano would win hands down.

I don't think Giggs is the best Player to grace the premiership but when he hits top form there is not many better.