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Critique This hand pls!

  • 07-05-2007 6:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭


    No info really on villian.

    Green Joke Poker Tallinn 20/40, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

    saw flop|saw showdown

    4 (Button) wrighter41 (1660)
    5 naomhjude (1390)
    6 Hero (1460)
    7 spion1987 (1500)
    8 OleM (1910)
    9 away4all (1780)
    10 MrMike78 (1430)
    1 MackeBurre (1120)
    2 overrt (1370)
    3 klingborg (1380)

    Preflop: Hero is in seat 6 with 6club.gif 7spade.gif
    1 fold, OleM calls 40, 5 folds, wrighter41 calls 40, naomhjude calls 20, Hero checks.

    Flop (160) 7diamond.gif Qspade.gif 7heart.gif
    naomhjude checks, Hero bets 80, 1 fold, wrighter41 raises to 160, 1 fold, Hero calls 80.

    Turn (480) 9diamond.gif
    Hero checks, wrighter41 bets 120, Hero calls 120.

    River (720) 5spade.gif
    Hero checks, wrighter41 bets 160, Hero calls 160

    wrighter41 shows 7club.gif Kclub.gif
    Hero shows 6club.gif 7spade.gif

    wrighter41 wins 1040 with Three of a kind, Seven's


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RoadSweeper


    and this, whats my line on the river?

    Green Joke Poker "TURBO" Knox 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

    saw flop|saw showdown

    8 (Button) huntt ($26.70)
    10 Roadsweep87 ($30.74)
    1 GreeDyloO ($5.90)
    5 Oberchecker ($13.30)
    6 treidei3 ($20)

    Preflop: Roadsweep87 is in seat 10 with 9spade.gif Tspade.gif
    Oberchecker calls 0.20, 1 fold, huntt calls 0.20, Roadsweep87 calls 0.10, GreeDyloO checks.

    Flop (0.80) 2spade.gif 8club.gif Jspade.gif
    Roadsweep87 bets 0.40, 1 fold, Oberchecker calls 0.40, 1 fold.

    Turn (1.60) 3heart.gif
    Roadsweep87 bets 1, Oberchecker calls 1.

    River (3.60) Aclub.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭The Sheriff 101


    First Q: i cant add anything productive i am always going broke here:(

    Second :

    Recently read an article on 2+2 which pointed out to me about playing monster draw's play them strong very stong, the profit comes from them folding.

    without any reads i bet river looks like he is also drawing

    Edit: just soptted A on river i think this should slow us down not me though i bet O:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    I'll give this a try.

    Hand one belongs in the sticky. I think the major mistake is checking. You should lead the betting. On a rainbow flop with no straight in sight i am going broke here 100% of the time.

    Hand 2 looks like some chasing like yourself, so bet.


    P.S advice could be very wrong, so take with picnh of salt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭charlesanto


    Hand 1...
    Fold to the flop re-raise !

    Hand 2...
    Check fold, he was calling with something


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Hand 1...
    Fold to the flop re-raise !

    Lol, results based thinking tbh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Hand 1...
    Fold to the flop re-raise !

    Hand 2...
    Check fold, he was calling with something

    hand 1 you think he should fold to a min raise on the flop with trips?

    hand 2 do you not think the ace is a good card to bluff at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭charlesanto


    rb_ie wrote:
    Lol, results based thinking tbh.

    I don't know....

    Even a big overpair must think "eh, he might have a 7, we'll get to show own as cheap as possible"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    I don't know....

    Even a big overpair must think "eh, he might have a 7, we'll get to show own as cheap as possible"

    So a guy bets and you instantly think he must have a 7 and you think he doesn't raise with a queen?


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Hand 1 I go broke a lot of the time, and hand 2 I play a lot stronger. Preflop is ok, I bet pot on flop and turn though, and the A is unlikely to have helped him so is a good bluff card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RoadSweeper


    5starpool wrote:
    Hand 1 I go broke a lot of the time, and hand 2 I play a lot stronger. Preflop is ok, I bet pot on flop and turn though, and the A is unlikely to have helped him so is a good bluff card.


    Thanks HJ and 5 star

    TBH i never thought of it :o

    what size bet do you reckon would be suffice? 3/4 pot?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 conormac


    I don't agree with that at all. Many people would stay in on overcards with a flop like that AK, AQ - and have seen some that would stay in on any Ace.

    Normally safer to shut down on the river, but if you do go it would have to be big - price out any call or low pair (2s, 3s), at least double the pot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    Hand 1: Either re-raise the flop or lead the turn they could easily have AQ/KQ. As played you lost a lot less than you would have but the majority of the time you are ahead and would have won a lot less than you might have. As played, if you think you are ahead on the flop then surely the turn and river can't have helped may as well re-raise the river for value.

    Hand 2: It all depends on the villain, if you know they are prepared to call you down with just a jack here then check/fold if you think that Ace would worry them enough to fold then fire away at it. I think you are getting called by a lot of hands at low stakes though really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    hand 1..don't think there's anything wrong...

    hand 2 - i'm getting a good bet in here on the flop...you've got a flush/open ended straight draw....I normally will bet 2/3 * pot


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