PLO hands

max_power

ty David Michael for helping me out with the HH. Anyway, how do you play this post flop? Any advice appreciated, very new to PLO.

Green Joke Poker New Richmond 0.25/0.50, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop|saw showdown

5 (Button) Paarma ($27.95)
6 max_power ($44.70)
8 hollywoodMN ($99.55)
10 TilterAdam ($18.20)
1 FatNinja123 ($46.65)
3 RoughStuff ($61.50)

Preflop: max_power is in seat 6 with Qh Ah Tc Ac
TilterAdam calls 0.50, 2 folds, Paarma calls 0.50, max_power raises to 2.25, hollywoodMN calls 2, TilterAdam calls 2, Paarma calls 2.

Flop (10.00) 2d Tx Qd
????

Flipper

uggh, horrid situation with 3 callers and flop that (even though you've hit) will probably generate a lot of interest. You're in the BB yes? I'd probably check the flop if you get a blank on the turn (non diamond, 8, 9, J or K) - then (assuming we're OOP), I'm jam it.

If someone pots it on the flop, I'd probably go ahead and go broke here but you will be 50/50 at best. Toughish spot actually.

The only advantage to leading out here for $10 is that you have advertised that you have AAxx pre-flop and will definately get raised by any thinking player with QTxx, Q2xx or T2xx (although no one should have the latter two in a raised pot). You will then be (assuming they have no other draw) slight favourite to win the pot.

max_power

Thanks Flipper..Yeah wasn't the nicest flop in the history of the world for such a pretty hand preflop. Anyway i did bet pot, not too much damage as it was the shortie pushing all in. I've just been gettting into these kinda situations a lot post-flop, flopping top two on a draw heavy board oop, and im lost. Was reading Rolf Slootboom and if i remember correctly he often recommends check folding top two to significant action...thoughts?

Flop (10.00) 2 T Q
max_power bets 10, 1 fold, TilterAdam moves all-in for 15.70, 1 fold, max_power calls 5.70.

Turn (41.40) J

River (41.40) 3

max_power shows Q A T A
TilterAdam shows Q K 9 K

TilterAdam wins 41.40 with A straight, King high

Flipper

max_power wrote:

Was reading Rolf Slootboom and if i remember correctly he often recommends check folding top two to significant action...thoughts?

Certainly and here's a perfect example of a spot where you might. Let's say everyone was playing a little deeper ($100+ stacks) and you pot it on the flop with 3 players to act behind. The fist player calls, the second raises the pot and the third re-pots it (probably all in). When the action get back to you, I would insta-fold as your hand has no showdown value anymore.

Why? Lets assume every player thinks you have AAxx (as anyone would judging by the pre-flop action as you have raised out of the BB). The first player just calling is indicitative of some type of draw - could be straight OR a flush - both together would re-raise you for sure in this spot (unless they're a total nit). The second and third players coming in behind this action certainly spells a made hand to me. It'll often be QQ or TT here but you'd almost never see 22 (at least in the bigger games).

max_power

Thanks for the advice, think im going to start posting a lot more PLO hands on here. Need to learn from mistakes as they say. I'm addicted to the game btw, far more complex than NLHE, more action and have that buzz of learning a new game. Last few days there has been a few PLO hands posted which have made for interesting reading.

cardshark202

I'm betting and calling all in on this flop all the time. Stacks need to be much deeper for you to consider folding this imo.

Marq

I probably check and raise all in when shorty bets. Your hand is nicely disguised behind your obvious AA and someone may come along with top and bottom or draw.

I'm always amazed by how nearly every online omaha hand posted on boards for analysis seems to be AAxx. Open up people! playing aces is probably the least interesting part of omaha. And omaha is a very interesting game.

DeadParrot

I agree marq
my most profitable hands and ones that make nice thinking hands
are things like 6645 ds on the button. I make more straights with 64 than I care to admit, and you are always paid off at lower level players with overpairs

eoghan104

DeadParrot wrote:

I agree marq
my most profitable hands and ones that make nice thinking hands
are things like 6645 ds on the button. I make more straights with 64 than I care to admit, and you are always paid off at lower level players with overpairs

I agree too ive said it before that hands like 6789 ds are much more profitable for me than AAxx and the most important bit of advice id give to newbies is not to overplay AAxx especially OOP preflop where I think huge mistakes are made consistently both online and live.

dougee19

i only read some part of the comments, how cam you be displeased with the flop??
top 2 isnt bad hehe

Gholimoli

Flipper wrote:

uggh, horrid situation with 3 callers and flop that (even though you've hit) will probably generate a lot of interest. You're in the BB yes? I'd probably check the flop if you get a blank on the turn (non diamond, 8, 9, J or K) - then (assuming we're OOP), I'm jam it.

If someone pots it on the flop, I'd probably go ahead and go broke here but you will be 50/50 at best. Toughish spot actually.

The only advantage to leading out here for $10 is that you have advertised that you have AAxx pre-flop and will definately get raised by any thinking player with QTxx, Q2xx or T2xx (although no one should have the latter two in a raised pot). You will then be (assuming they have no other draw) slight favourite to win the pot.

great post flipper thanks

max_power

Marq wrote:

I
I'm always amazed by how nearly every online omaha hand posted on boards for analysis seems to be AAxx. Open up people! playing aces is probably the least interesting part of omaha. And omaha is a very interesting game.

Think it's cause they're often harder to play postflop for a newbie and most of the hands posted for analysis are losing hands, people go broke with AAxx, myself included.