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"If Bees go extinct, we all do." Rapid decline in Bee population...

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    I thought the bee population here was on the rise due to the past few mild winters, not as many died off as usual?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Yeah I think we're okay for bees here, although wasn't it mainly the honey bees?


    Good few bumble bees about. God I love bumblebees. How can you not love something so fuzzy and stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Silverfish wrote:
    Good few bumble bees about. God I love bumblebees. How can you not love something so fuzzy and stupid.

    http://accordionguy.blogware.com/Photos/2005/02/hairy_beach_dude_for_jesus.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭So Glad


    HavoK wrote:

    That guy looks like Ron Jeremy..........ewww...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭So Glad



    Yes, I read about that too, although mobile phones and mobile phone masts do a lot of damage to the human brain too, like depression, headaches, clogging of the mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    So Glad wrote:
    Yes, I read about that too, although mobile phones and mobile phone masts do a lot of damage to the human brain too, like depression, headaches, clogging of the mind.
    Prove it. Oh wait, there is no proof, just speculation and studies only good for plugging mouseholes.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,644 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Apparently the true cause is much less conspiratorial:

    (Links in Spanish)
    http://www.abc.es/20070429/sociedad-ciencia/espana-resuelve-enigma-muerte_200704290254.html

    http://www.europapress.es/noticia.aspx?cod=20070422131709&ch=282

    A parasite named Nosema Ceranae, which attacks the digestive systems of foraging bees.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Gaspode


    So Glad wrote:
    There's a lot of news reports of the Bee population declining as much as 80% in USA/Europe, as much as this might not cause much distress to you (maybe more relief) this is actually a BIG ecological problem. Bees pollinate our plants, thus making them breed and spawn over large areas, without the Bees help, this is either stopped or slowed down dramatically, as well as a few other things.

    Here's some links about it:

    http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/080407_bees.html

    http://www.lockergnome.com/nexus/usrbingeek/2007/04/26/if-bees-go-extinct-we-all-do/

    http://www.connectedinternet.co.uk/2007/04/19/mobile-phones-are-killing-bees-mankind-will-be-extinct-in-four-years/


    I think we might be all right for a while - where I am we're swimming in bees this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    There's a lot of news reports of the Bee population declining as much as 80% in USA/Europe

    Yes! I have noticed it's a little too quiet, if you know what I mean?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭So Glad


    Well, I myself have not been seeing many Bees AT ALL. All I am hearing about is Bees being overly aggressive this year and stinging more than usual.


  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can someone post something that looks even remotely like a credible source?

    ktnx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 570 ✭✭✭BrandonBlock


    Theres a hive of them out my back garden anyway, no shortage of bees here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    Pigman II wrote:
    Yes! I have noticed it's a little too quiet, if you know what I mean?

    Bees usually make a lot of noise. No noise suggests no bees!

    :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    I love the idea that the whole eco-system pivots on one species. There's more than one way to spread pollen, and more than one insect that does it!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Surely if the bees disappear we can draft in some converted wasps to fulfil the task. Give em a bit of fluff for the thorax and some headgear from Claire's Accessories and we're laughing, no one will know the difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,245 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    Creature wrote:
    Bees usually make a lot of noise. No noise suggests no bees!

    :p

    Oh look, there goes one now. To the Beemobile!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    who`s going to teach the kids about sex then? the birds cant do it alone


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Oh look, there goes one now. To the Beemobile!

    Bees are on the what now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭DaBreno


    Oh look, there goes one now. To the Beemobile!

    You mean your Chevy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    DaBreno wrote:
    You mean your Chevy?

    Durrr. I jumped the gun a lot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭McSandwich


    I've seen lots of wasps - one of the feckers divebombed me earlier. Also lots of bumble bees flying like they've had a few too many drinks as only they can do.. As for honey bees - I haven't see one so far this year :(

    [edit]
    Maybe they've given up on pollination and honey making... now that they can buzz for a takeaway on their mobiles
    [/edit]


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    The birds and the wasps doesn't sound as good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭skywalker


    who`s going to teach the kids about sex then? the birds cant do it alone
    :D

    Silverfish wrote:
    Yeah I think we're okay for bees here, although wasn't it mainly the honey bees?


    Good few bumble bees about. God I love bumblebees. How can you not love something so fuzzy and stupid.


    Their getting shaggin massive though. Im not a big fan personally. I dont like the thoughts of anything thats liable to sting me just cause the fancy takes them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭MikeHoncho


    So Glad wrote:
    Well, I myself have not been seeing many Bees AT ALL. All I am hearing about is Bees being overly aggressive this year and stinging more than usual.

    Its only the 1st of May. Its the first day of bee season. Just because the weather has been good early dont mean the bees have decided to start their cycle early.

    Also do you have a source RE these aggressive bees? Or was it just your mate padjo who got stung on the arse that told you that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,817 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    This thread is wrecking my buzz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    deswalsh wrote:
    I think we might be all right for a while - where I am we're swimming in bees this year.

    Maybe they are all drowning then?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,165 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    There's an article on Bee's in the Economist this week. It seems as if something has been depressing their immune system, either a pesticide, or a new type of bug/one they have not been exposed to before.

    Bee keepers make ALOT of money by providing the bee's for pollination, and as a consequence often move the bee's homes about. They have found bee's that move about alot are more likely to die in this way (but not in all cases).

    Another theory is that something could be attacking a specific group of the bee's which are essential to the hive, and losing these causes the hive to die.

    They've ruled out mobile phones as a problem (of course thats what they WANT you to believe :p)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Creature wrote:
    Bees usually make a lot of noise. No noise suggests no bees!

    :p
    Oh, I understand now. Oh look, there goes one now.
    To the Beemobile!
    -You mean your Chevy?
    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Oh, I understand now. Oh look, there goes one now.
    To the Beemobile!
    -You mean your Chevy?
    Yes.
    too slooooooooooow :D


    i wanted to post that :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    MikeHoncho wrote:
    Its only the 1st of May. Its the first day of bee season. Just because the weather has been good early dont mean the bees have decided to start their cycle early.

    Also do you have a source RE these aggressive bees? Or was it just your mate padjo who got stung on the arse that told you that?
    someone's got a bee in their bonnet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,817 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    griffdaddy wrote:
    someone's got a bee in their bonnet!
    Oh beehave!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Gaspode


    So Glad wrote:
    There's a lot of news reports of the Bee population declining as much as 80% in USA/Europe, as much as this might not cause much distress to you (maybe more relief) this is actually a BIG ecological problem. Bees pollinate our plants, thus making them breed and spawn over large areas, without the Bees help, this is either stopped or slowed down dramatically, as well as a few other things.


    All joking aside, the OP is pure scare-mongering. Bees only provide a small fraction of the pollination that goes on every year. A huge number of flying insects pollinate, animals can also transfer pollen, and pollination can also occur in many plants simply using the wind to disperse pollen.
    While I dont have sources to hand, any basis biology book for kids will explain this. Using a blog as a source is not reliable, might as well just grab the nearest Hans Christian Anderson book as a reference!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭johnp


    I love the idea that the whole eco-system pivots on one species. There's more than one way to spread pollen, and more than one insect that does it!


    Ahhh, so when the other insects see that the bees have vanished they'll so their own job and the bees job too? They'll probably ask for a pay rise, so we best bear that in mind :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    I do like bees a lot. Even though they sting, I still think theyre nice because they use it as a last resort. I like them even more after seeing this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Gaspode


    boreds wrote:
    I do like bees a lot. Even though they sting, I still think theyre nice because they use it as a last resort. I like them even more after seeing this.


    Yeah they're nice - you can get some recipes here
    http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2160.html
    or here
    http://www.google.com/Top/Home/Cooking/Wild_Foods/Insects/

    enjoy!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    BEEESSS!!!

    Great species. The thought of millions of bees dying saddens me. The only bee I have seen this year was dying in the middle of the path for no apparent reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    deswalsh wrote:

    Have you tried? I'd like a taste. I wonder if you had a cut in your mouth and the sting got in would it taste like sting or would it just dissolve in the cooking?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Deliverance


    Zillah wrote:
    BEEESSS!!!

    Great species. The thought of millions of bees dying saddens me. The only bee I have seen this year was dying in the middle of the path for no apparent reason.
    He bee overacting like the OP. To bee or not to bee: that is the question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭luckat


    Wasn't it Einstein that gave humanity four years if all the bees died out? Mind you, he wasn't a biologist.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    for a second i read the title as beers
    and i thought oh my god i'll really die if beer dies too
    hehehe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭McSandwich




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I've been reading about this. It's very strange indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Gaspode


    Something sadly missing from most conversations on boards!

    However, there may be a grain of truth in what the OP stated, though not quite the doomsday scenario that was painted. It appears there is some evidence after all that there is a decline in the bee population. [humble pie] Yum yum![/humble pie]

    LinK: http://www.teagasc.ie/news/2007/200705-08.htm

    Strangelt enough, as I said there seems to be a huge amount of bees around my area, and in the homestead in Cavan, so the anecdotal evidence flies in the face of the scientific evidence. Maybe its the early warm weather has messed the bees up this year,

    Anyway, I still wouldnt pay much attention to what einstein said. He was a mere physicist, and sure what would they know about anything - the guy couldnt even find his way to a barbers ffs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    I hate bees and wasps so much and they always annoy me so i couldn't care less im sure its possible to artificially pollinate a plant


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