ghost, Spirit Trap

Stoner

I was reading about the TV show "A Haunting" on anther forum. Anyway someone mentioned about how much of the storylines involve new people moving into a house and knocking a wall down or finding a boarded up hidden rooms and as a result the place becomes "haunted"

They seem to suggest that ghosts, spirits, activity can be contained by buildings and are released when these secret doors are opened and walled up rooms taken back into the living area.

anyway this opened up lots of questions for me, starting at the most simplistic.

If this is true, so much for ghosts walking through walls:D

If this is true then it's possible to trap ghosts/spirits/activity, go ghostbusters

If this is true how come you never hear people giving this advice, i.e the answer to the crying you hear in the box room in your house it to block it up and make it seem like the room is no longer part of the house.

So that's all i have to say about this.

6th

As soon as I read this I though:

Think of an orange and its smell, if you squeeze or cut it the smell gets stronger and released.

I have no idea what I mean by that but you might get the idea.

You have to remember though, in alot of cases its not actually a conscious entity but just a mass of energy (in the paranormal understanding of the word). So its not like a soul is trapped but more like an essence ... just like a smell (the orange).

Does that make anything clearer or throw up any more questions?

stormkeeper

6th wrote:

As soon as I read this I though:

Think of an orange and its smell, if you squeeze or cut it the smell gets stronger and released.

I have no idea what I mean by that but you might get the idea.

It makes perfect sense to me.

iamhunted

as far as knocking down walls etc, it may be more linked to the spirit or 'ghost' resident in the home than the physically demolishing of the wall. The ghost may have liked that particular wall right where it was and decide to piss off the residents in return.

Stoner

yeah,I see where you are all coming from alright, but what about the question about never hearing people being advised to wall something up or close something off, or hide a room.

6th

Now days property is so expensive I dont think anyone could afford to block up a room. That said in the pat penty of places have been found with walled up rooms and areas.

Zillah

Its been long rumoured that rennovations in buildings exacerbate paranormal activity. There's loads of stories about.

A spiritualist might argue that this is because A) It pisses off the ghost, or Revealing/destroying the old materials in the building releases/strengthens/reactivates the "energy" of the haunting, like 6th's orange analogy.

Personally I suspect its a result of the people involved suddenly being reminded that the building has a past and are more likely to interpret events in a supernatural context.

Oryx

Some theories

I dont think a blocked up room could be a trap unless any spirit within doesn't know they're dead.(as it says in the film). Theyre not physical entities after all.

It could be that the spirit is unliving quite happily in 'their' space, and any changes to that causes upset and reactions from them.

Or new people living in a house could bring in new energy which 'wakes up' any spirit connected to the place.

Or the physical disturbance of renovation could be changing the energy of the place (Im thinking geopathic energy, ley lines) causing it to attract spirit activity.

Just a few ideas!

stormkeeper

KatieK wrote:

Some theories

I dont think a blocked up room could be a trap unless any spirit within doesn't know they're dead.(as it says in the film). Theyre not physical entities after all.

It could be that the spirit is unliving quite happily in 'their' space, and any changes to that causes upset and reactions from them.

Or new people living in a house could bring in new energy which 'wakes up' any spirit connected to the place.

Or the physical disturbance of renovation could be changing the energy of the place (Im thinking geopathic energy, ley lines) causing it to attract spirit activity.

Just a few ideas!

It could also possibly be a combination of more than one of the above as well, ie: The new people living in the house could wake up the spirit and the spirit is content with the person or people living there, until changes happen with the place, which then upsets it. I'd say a relative few spirits are trapped on here, and the rest are either residual hauntings (and thus are non-sentient), or they come and go at will. I think additional factors that would be considered is the age and temprement of the spirit, seeing as there are different types of energy... for example, a spirit may only wake up if there are young children present, because in life the spirit may have loved children. Additionally, I recall in an investigation (Maes Artro) that I participated in there was a spirit that disliked women, so more things would happen when there was a woman (or women) in the group.

I do recall that a girl in the group I was in ended up feeling sick in the room where the spirit disliked women too, plus I have pictures of orbs right above her! I also recall that There was a strong energy in there as well, as I felt like I was being pushed out of the room too! I have to admit that Maes Artro was quite an impressive place, and regret that I wasn't - and will never again be - able to go to there again.

Back on topic... I don't think there is really a clear-cut explanation for why spirits get disturbed/awakened, rather it's dependant on a number of factors, including the ones that I quoted, as well as what I mentioned above. I think that research of both the property and circumstances involving the increase of activity is the only way you could know for certain what set off events in the property, rather than postulating that something that may or may not be the case. Nothing ever seems to be generalised in the case of the paranormal...