A different sound...

Spicy Lauren

Alright lads,

So i've a Fender Blues Deluxe amp and my guitar is a Jagstang.
I'm very happy with the sound I'm getting.

There is this particular song of mine though, which doesnt really suits the sound. I used to play with a blues guitar with f holes (Ibanez artcore) but sold it recently (I thought she had a big a*ss so it was a bit uncomfotable to rock with, on stage)
The combination of that guitar with my amp was perfect for that song, but now that I'm using the Jag it just doesnt fit any more... I need a warmer tone!

Now what i'm asking is this:

Is there a kool pedal out there that would make my jagstang sound like a blues guitar with f-holes through the Blues Deluxe amp?

Ta ta,

Lauren

punchdrunk

something like a fulltone fatboost might do it,or a keeley compROSSor?
not sure if you can get close to that sound with a totally different type of guitar though?

Yakult

Your best bet is probably a Eq pedal!

Spicy Lauren

R_H_C_P wrote:

Your best bet is probably a Eq pedal!

explain?
(I shall apologise for my lack of knowledge)

Blackhorse Slim

Just a thought - for not much more than the price of a pedal or two you could get a cheap Chinese-made 335 copy, like the SX archtop, it would probably get a lot closer to the sound you're looking for. If you don't mind bringing 2 guitars to a gig...
I play a strat, but I keep my old Hondo Revival 335-copy around tuned to an open E for slide, works better than the strat for those Elmore James or Even George Thorogood sounds.

Paladin

I would think going the modeller route gives more options than a single pedal.

Cheap(ish) POD perhaps...
http://www.thomann.de/ie/line6_pod_2_2006.htm
new version:
http://www.thomann.de/ie/line6_pod_xt_amp_modeler.htm

or boss GT8 / POD XT Live if you want a class pedal for live options (warning: takes hours or playing with to get the best out of it but its worth it):
http://www.thomann.de/ie/boss_gt8.htm
http://www.thomann.de/ie/line6_pod_xt_live.htm

Spicy Lauren

Paladin - what does a modeler do?

feylya

It models the sound of an amp It simulates running through different amps and speakers etc

TelePaul

Did your Ibanez Artcore have humbuckers? I wouldn't change the amp, the 'problem' is the guitar. Lemme google an Artcore for a sec.....

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(googles)

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Hmmm I dunno what model you have, but I'll assume it aint single coils you're dealing with. You could probably fit a stacked bucker on your Fender. It's alot of work, just try rolling off the tone pot.

Spicy Lauren

Yeah the artcore had humbuckers (nice for feedback...)
Maybe I should get myself a new guitar... Damn why did I sell it!!

Modelers hey? I shall look into it. Thanks for the tip.

Anything more ye can think of?

Lauren

Blackhorse Slim

Doesn't the Jagstang have a humbucker and a single coil?

Spicy Lauren

Blackhorse Slim wrote:

Doesn't the Jagstang have a humbucker and a single coil?

Now lads dont talk rubbish to me!!
Lets all go back to lesson number one:

'Humbucker vs single coil - what is the difference?'

In other words: TEACH ME!! I thought humbuckers were these shiny plates that make great feedabck. As ye can tell, as well as being hungover, I'm also clueless...
Ta ta!

bombidol

Someone will give you a more detailed explanation but roughly it breaks down to this.

Humbucker = Fuller beefier sound.
Single Coil = Thinner more shiney sound.

Bombidol: If you wish to sell a guitar, use adverts.ie

TelePaul

Spicy Lauren wrote:

Now lads dont talk rubbish to me!!
Lets all go back to lesson number one:

'Humbucker vs single coil - what is the difference?'

In other words: TEACH ME!! I thought humbuckers were these shiny plates that make great feedabck. As ye can tell, as well as being hungover, I'm also clueless...
Ta ta!

Humbuckers are pickups where the copper wire is wound in two opposite directions, thus cancelling the hum. They generally give a darker fatter sound, and that's why you liked them for blues. I think it's worth mentioning that the best blues players in the world have all played blues with single coils, but anyway.

Blackhorse is right, the Jagstang does have a humbucker -good spot Blackhorse! Therefore, presuming you're using the bridge-pickup in the Jagstang the difference is again down to the hollow-body vs the solid-body.

TelePaul

Spicy Lauren wrote:

Yeah the artcore had humbuckers (nice for feedback...)

It should be the other way round, single coils will feed back more, humbuckers will produce a cleaner sound.

Spicy Lauren

TelePaul wrote:

presuming you're using the bridge-pickup in the Jagstang the difference is again down to the hollow-body vs the solid-body.

Yeah I think we found what the problem was... Basically I need a need guitar goddammit! Bombidol might save me though, wahey!!

Blackhorse Slim

Spicy Lauren wrote:

Now lads dont talk rubbish to me!!
Lets all go back to lesson number one:

'Humbucker vs single coil - what is the difference?'

In other words: TEACH ME!! I thought humbuckers were these shiny plates that make great feedabck. As ye can tell, as well as being hungover, I'm also clueless...
Ta ta!

As has been mentioned, humbuckers give a fuller, fatter sound, which I think is what you're missing - or at least part of it. Hollow-body archtop guitars like the artcore generally (always, as far as I know) have 2 humbucker pickups, covered with metal plates (which can be removed). The Les Paul also has humbuckers. I don't really know the jagstang, but I'd guess it sounds kinda like the 'Fat' strat - a fender strat that has a humbucker in place of one of the single coil pickups.

So if you can't get the sound you're looking for with using the humbucker on your jagstang, then I don't think a modeler will get it either.

Telepaul, depends on who you consider the best blues players to be! I'm sure people like BB King, Albert King and T-Bone Walker must have used single coils at some stage, but that's not what they're known for. Or are you thinking more of SRV, Hendrix, Rory, Clapton etc?

TelePaul

Blackhorse Slim wrote:

Telepaul, depends on who you consider the best blues players to be! I'm sure people like BB King, Albert King and T-Bone Walker must have used single coils at some stage, but that's not what they're known for. Or are you thinking more of SRV, Hendrix, Rory, Clapton etc?

Hah yep Stevie Ray was the big one. Yep Hendrix, Clapton, Rory, Buddy Guy, Robert Cray, Jeff Beck, Roy Buchanan, Albert Collins (humbucker in the neck though!), Muddy Waters.