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18 months as a semi-pro

  • 15-04-2007 5:55am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭


    i first came across poker in UCC in april 05.me and a couple of my friends had seen it on tv and we played pretty much every day during the month off before our exams.we played 2 euro a man and vaguely followed the rules but i was addicted straight away.

    once the exams were over me and 2 of my friends set off to find bigger games.we asked around about the better pub tournaments available unaware that a prominent casino with numerous players was right in our backyard.one night we luckily passed the macau casino.i was amazed that such a place existed in cork.i immediatly joined and played a freeroll on my second night as a member.i was so intimidated early on i folded JJ utg.i found out that i could play online through the casino and was much more comfertable in that environment.i decided to stick with this as i learned more about the game.

    at this stage i was repeating first year of college.i had failed 1 subject out of ten so i had a lot of free time on my hands.i worked a factory job which i hated.i started playing .10c/.20c online and improved and moved up levels quickly due to the amount of tv poker i was watching.soon i found myself playing and beating $1/2 online.i became very disillusioned with work.i was working 5 days a week for 40 hours for about 500 euro while i was earning around 2-300 euro every night for around 4 or 5 hours worth of play which i was enjoying.

    then 1 night i played a sateillite for the macau christmas festival.me and my friend ended up HU and i came second for a 500 euro ticket to a speed poker tournament.(i ended up winning another ticket to this tournament plus winning my way into the 1k main event)the festival came around i was very confident.i played very aggressively in the speed poker(and ran well) and came to the final table with a good stack.the money at this time was huge to me.i was making good money playing online but i was spending it just as fast.i was effectively broke at the time.we got down to three players although i had half the chips in play we settled for a three way chop.we got 8k each.my life had been turned upside down.

    we split the tourney on a thursday night.i was scheduled to work on the saturday.the day after i chopped the macau friday tournament for 1k.that was it.there was no way i was going back to work.i rang up and quit.it was a great feeling.for the rest of the month i played by a set schedule.i played the nightly tourney at 9 o clock.whenever i bust out id play the cash game till 6.30am.afterwards id go home,sleep till 6 or 7pm,eat,and repeat the process.for the entire month i made about 20k net.i won literally every night i played.at the time i thought i was THAT much better than the standard in macau.afterwards i realised that i was running extremely well that month and that the winrate i had was almost unachievavable in the long run.i was enjoying life nontheless.then came variance.

    in the first half of january i decided to take a break and enjoy my new found wealth.by this stage i had decided to drop out of college altogethor and start a new course in the next year so i had plenty of time to do what i wanted to.when i came back things were much different.i ran so bad i couldnt beleive it.i was playing 4 or 5 days a week in the macau for about 6 hours a night.on average i won about 3 pots per night.i couldnt flop anything.when i did my hand wouldnt stand up.i began playing timidly as my confidence dwindled.

    luckily between january and april i had improved my online game significantly.i began beating $2/4 quite regularly and make about $10k in this period from a limited number of hands.then in late march i qualified for the irish open on my second attempt in a live sateillite.i was delighted and looked forward to it for weeks.when it came around i wasnt to be dissapointed.i ended the first day as chip leader.i went card dead on day 2 and ended going out in 15th for 10k.(i was finished off by a 1 outer:().my enthuasiasm for the game was reignited.

    i took about a week off.when i returned i pretty much immediatly formed a close friendship with another medium stakes player.we were both young with significant amounts of money and randomly took shots at 5/10 nl holdem and plo where we had no previous experience.we would usually lose 7/800 per session.i didnt see this as much of a problem as my bankroll could comfertably take these swings.however,the more we played togethor,the more we realised how dangerous the situation could become.overall between april and august we lost about $12k each.i went back to grinding $2/4.

    then came the macau summer festival 06.im always confident about my holdem tourney game but hadnt played a significant amount of poker in the previous 2 months or so.nontheless i told myself i was going to perform in a big way.i had a rocky start on day 1.i went low early but played aggressively and built it back up.i ended day 1 on 17k with the av. at 21k.i was completely card dead on day 2.for a long part of the day i had ~10k with the av. at 25-30k.i played the best couple hours of poker i ever have and built my stack up to 60k with the av. at 35k.i went from there and made the final table with an average stack.i honestly feel i didnt make a mistake on day 2 or day 3 of the tournament.i made it to 4 handed play where we took 20k each and played for 12k.i made it HU and we did a deal where first took 7.5k and second took 4.5k.i took it down.it was my proudest moment in poker.i felt i was going to take the poker world by storm.

    for the next 2 months i went into an extended period of inactivity.i had all the money i needed to live the way i wanted.i payed 3.5k to repeat first year of college.i bought my parents a wide screen tv and paid for the living room to be refurnished.i was very happy.however,after being away for so long,i soon realised i couldnt readapt to the college lifestyle.i didnt attend 1 lecture.

    at the start of november,realising it was very unlikely i would be attending any lectures,i decided to focus on poker again.i adopted a very professional attitude.i played for 3-4 hours a day for 4-5 days a week mutitabling $3/6.i felt i played well but most certainly ran well also.i completely eliminated tilt from my game.between the the start of november and the end of december i had made around $16-18k.i took another break from the game for 2-3 weeks.then came what encouraged me to make this post in ths first place.

    i completely lost my motivation for the game.i played sporadically over january and february.i ran bad and my confidence suffered.i played primarily online.i lost every time i deposited.i became a losing player.altogethor i think i lost about 5k.i was lucky because i generally deposit small sums of money and try and drive them up.otherwise i would have lost a lot more.for me poker was doing way more harm than good.i took a sort of unofficial break.i started socialising with my friends more and life became enjoyable again.i literally didnt play poker for about 2 months which was the longest period i had gone without it in a significant amount of time.i seriously considered quitting poker altogehtor.

    then one day,after ppp had switched to ipoker,i converted my ppp points to dollars.i had $17 in my account.i decided instead of gambling the money in the highest game ppp would allow me to,id play seriously with it and do my best to build it up.i played microstakes and built up to $280.it was very satisfying.the money meant very little to my BR but beating online poker so consistantly suddenly became very satisfying again.today i played my usual stakes and made $750 in 2 hours.suddenly my motivation to succeed at poker has returned.

    poker is an amazing game.the highs and lows of a poker player can match almost any other profession.i respect anyone who is capable of accepting these as part of the game.

    tl;dr cliff notes:young student,finds poker,hates study,lol donkaments,quits work,takes a break,runs bad,lol donkaments(2),easy living,loses $$$,lol donkaments(3),takes a break,makes $$$,runs/plays bad,loses $$$,takes a break,finds motivation,???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭58o


    How did you convert your PPP points to dollars? Nice to know they might actually be good for something other than entering crappy freerolls


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭peeko


    Excellent post captain!

    I've decided to take the next few months off and have a serious go at poker, and that was an inspiring read! I will come back to it in moments of tilt!

    Can I ask you a few questions?

    You said you eliminated tilt entirely from you're game. Any advise on how you did that?
    When you multitable, how many tables are you playing? And for how long do you play a session uninterupted?
    How do you adapt you're game when you are getting AK/AQ a lot on one table and you are raising a lot, and you're continuation bets are being called a lot and you keep missing! If this happens!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    cheers peeko.thats what happens when you have a lot of free time and start thinking out loud!
    peeko wrote:
    You said you eliminated tilt entirely from you're game. Any advise on how you did that?

    for that i period i had entirely eliminated tilt.im still not completely immune to it but my tilt is way less severe than it was about 6-8 months ago and is pretty much never a problem now.i think the best idea is to just not play unless you're in good shape mentally and physically.from my experience you're way more likely to tilt when tired/in a bad mood/hungover.also keeping sessions short is a good idea.
    peeko wrote:
    When you multitable, how many tables are you playing? And for how long do you play a session uninterupted?

    i never play more than 4 tables.i dont know how some players play 8+ tables.im sure many players can do this profitably but i think it affects a lot of players games.multitablers can be very exploitable sometimes.playing for 3-4 hours without a break has always suited me.i find breaks distracting and if i play for longer i find myself tiring.
    peeko wrote:
    How do you adapt you're game when you are getting AK/AQ a lot on one table and you are raising a lot, and you're continuation bets are being called a lot and you keep missing! If this happens!?

    if my continuation bets are being called a lot ill just stop making them as frequently.id be much more inclined to bet into dry boards in this spot(e.g.J62) than coordinated boards(789,8TJ etc) where loose players can call you down with a wide range of hands.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    58o wrote:
    How did you convert your PPP points to dollars? Nice to know they might actually be good for something other than entering crappy freerolls

    um i cant remeber exactly to be honest.just go into my account and take it from there.it was pretty easy to figure out.i think you need like 10k or something to convert though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    good story.

    it's a little like my last 9months or so, but far better and a lot more $$$!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭bottom feeder


    Hmmmm C Tom I have to say this was a very enjoyable read and can relate so much to it. At the moment I am going through one of the lows you described in your post and am feeling very disheartened for the game, in live cash games especially as I tilt like a Muthaaa Fu@kaaa, not much of an online player either as I never seem to build up a BR and when I do I always donk it off through boredom or just pure tiredness…..

    However for the next while im going to focus on my tournament game and try to be more discipline and lay off the oul cash games…
    If you have any advice on the oul T I L T side of things it would be much appreciated man.

    Again CTom great read and all the best in the future…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭karlh


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    thanks bottom feeder.

    if youre having tilt problems staying away from cash games is certainly a good idea.you can do way more damage playing cash than tournaments.

    not much to add on controlling tilt that i didnt say above.unfortunately theres no easy way in dealing with it.one thing i make sure is that when i sit down im doing so with no time restrictions and can play for however long i want.when i started playing online i found that if i knew i could only play for an hour or so if i started losing i altered my game and began chasing immediatly fearing a losing session.when you're able to play for 3 hours+ theres much more time to make back your loss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    cheers lloyd,karlh lmao!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭HiCloy


    good post.

    You may have just encouraged several students to drop out of college tho! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭semibluff


    very good post, fair play to ya and glad u got your hunger back for it.

    Wes, tilt is the killer for most people, but perhaps you should start only taking out the amount of money to play the tournie, and perhaps 100 more for a quick cash game blow up if you must, but i think staying away from the house games (roullette BJ) is a must, as the 200 you lose der, could have been re-invested in poker which is def a +EV for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭CoolBoardr


    Good read, thanks for sharing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 661 ✭✭✭dK1NG


    HiCloy wrote:
    good post.

    You may have just encouraged several students to drop out of college tho! :D

    its people like this that give us poor students a bad name:D

    great post, i'd lovve to be able to play more poker (even our home games are off limits for me these days, as they're played during the wk now instead of wkends). i'm stuck doing a phd and my priorities for the next 18months or so are to get that finished, which, unfortunately, leaves very little time for poker.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    Great post My Friend but shouldn't you be studying


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    ugh even the thought of studying is depressing.gonna try hit the books hard next week.maybe i should set up some sort of "if you see me playing you get $x" bounty system.you cant play though,you have enough money:).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭StraddleFor6


    So thats where you've been. Great read.
    Bar the big tournament wins and the refurnished living room we've got the same story.
    Always hated having you at my table, but hopefully we can play a game again soon.

    Lyonzy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RoadSweeper


    what do you feel are the main differences between tournie and cash?
    or even which of your qualities suit which game best?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    Great post. I have only played with you once (think the source of your boards nickname was at the table too!) I was hugely impressed with your play, very controlled aggression. Any other time I've seen you at a table with antes you generally have half the ante chips in play:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭corkie123


    the best post i have read in a long time gl in the future :D hope to play with u again soon :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭bottom feeder


    semibluff wrote:
    very good post, fair play to ya and glad u got your hunger back for it.

    Wes, tilt is the killer for most people, but perhaps you should start only taking out the amount of money to play the tournie, and perhaps 100 more for a quick cash game blow up if you must, but i think staying away from the house games (roullette BJ) is a must, as the 200 you lose der, could have been re-invested in poker which is def a +EV for you.

    this is so ture, as i have said earlier im going to have to get my money management skills in order - hence why the little break..... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    Good read and congrats.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    corkie123 wrote:
    the best post i have read in a long time gl in the future :D hope to play with u again soon :D

    cheers sean,glad you enjoyed it.im sure we'll play some time over the macau festival weekend.good luck till then.
    So thats where you've been. Great read.
    Bar the big tournament wins and the refurnished living room we've got the same story.
    Always hated having you at my table, but hopefully we can play a game again soon.

    Lyonzy.

    lol i was starting to think StraddleFor6 was just a myth.

    i can say the same about you.in fact you used to play every now and again just as i began playing the live game regularly and were easily one of the best players there.maybe we'll play at the macau summer festival.
    what do you feel are the main differences between tournie and cash?
    or even which of your qualities suit which game best?

    im really bad at answering that question.i guess to be a very successful long term winning cash player you need to have a very good grasp of game theory(pot odds,implied odds,etc).in tournaments this is not as important imo as the fields are generally weaker than in cash games and stacks are usually way more shallow so decisions can sometimes be easier.

    one aspect of my tournament game which id consider fairly important is my ability to always remain observant.when playing live tournaments i always keep close tabs on whose blinds will be easy to steal,whose becoming impatient,stack sizes of opponents,etc.i always pay particularly close attention to the players 2 to my left and right.following the flow of the game is very important.
    ocallagh wrote:
    Great post. I have only played with you once (think the source of your boards nickname was at the table too!) I was hugely impressed with your play, very controlled aggression. Any other time I've seen you at a table with antes you generally have half the ante chips in play:)

    we've actually played together 3 times i beleive,im the macau christmas festival main event,in the sunday game of the same festival and at the team event in waterford.i was always impressed by your play,and your table etiquette was always first class.in fact i only started posting on boards after playing you and hectorjelly and hearing it brought up so many times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    You are a poster that I respect a lot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭SIDESHOW BOBs


    i remember that time when you were running bad and i wish i could remember exactly what advise i gave you at the time.you are a class act and only now am i coming to terms with the evil which is varience.

    after hitting every card in the deck for a few months i thought i was unbeatable. I bet every draw aggressively, why wouldnt i ? i couldnt miss.

    All changed during my trip to singapore for the betfair asian poker tour, which i bought in for , i reckon the trip cost me 10k , no problems , i was regularily winning 3-5 k a night more sometimes and the occasional loss.

    since christmas i cant get a run together, a few good nights in waterford can be quickly dissapaited by a trip to dublin , where one night i played cash for 8 hours and won 5 hands. Driving back to cork broke, a now common occurance i am begining to think that this poker lark is all skill when your winning and luck when your losing.How fickle the poker dogs are ,i have lost 2 huge pots in recent months to runner club where previously i would hit a gutshot on river or quad up to an overset.:(

    is a complete break from poker the way to go ?, i have tightened up my game considerably, i dont play as aggressively , have developed nearly an allergic reaction to omaha .

    Anyway any advise appreciated


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    wow sideshow long time no see.

    i remember that night aswell.we were playing short handed and i bust out about 15 minutes before closing.afterwards you told me to just take a break for a while.i beleive it was about 2 weeks before the irish open.i recall playing only once between then and the IO.this was great advice.i still dont play unless im in a good frame of mind.

    i cant really comment on how much this advice would help tbh.only you know really whether you should be playing or not.usually id presume that it was just high variance caused by your super aggressive style but,like you said,youre playing tight.maybe taking a break for a month or so would be beneficial.sorry i cant be of more help.hope things turn around for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭The_Chopper


    Great post Eoin.
    Also interested to here what unlucky boy has to say about this.

    If you've gone through bad variance over 10 months - where ever set gets busted by runner runner flush. Your aces keep getting cracked by 92o (true). And every big tournament you play you always seem to go out with AK vs KK.

    My point is do I have the right to call myself the unluckyest poker player, lol. (joke)

    Seriously though how would you deal with this?
    Never playing the game again isn't a resonable answer, lol

    Ricky

    P.S. While confidence is down it hasn't been shattered and I still feel very confortable in my game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭corkie123


    like side show im going through the worse period of poker i ever had cant seem to win one hd and starting to play more live again I tried the aggresive style and then the tighter than tight style just to see wat might work only to find that if the cards do not fall for u no matter wat u do u still need that LUCK factor in your game as well . I WAS IN THE macou last night and seen this hd underthe gun raises to 3600 with blinds 300 600 gets called by one player flop comes TJQ the rasier goes all in for 18k and gets called by other player who turns over 99 rasier had QQ for set turn K river RAG the other players at table saying great call how could that be great call only muppet could call with 99 i say so u do need luck in poker . first to escape the luckboxes who call with those hds and secondly to escape there calls .i now come to understand that my game is not that bad and i only have to wait for the luck factor to kick back in so when side show gets back his PIXE DUST HE MIGHT SPREAD SOME AROUND TO ME :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    hows it goin ricky.sounds like a sick run indeed.

    like lloyd said,sometimes you cant beat running bad.im not sure if you're playing much online,but if you are,playing live for a month or two would be a good idea.im sure you could beat live poker fairly comfertably over this time period irrespective of how you're running.

    sean,the pixie dust only worked for sideshow and no one else.and by the sounds of how he's running its not worth much these days!

    edit:ricky,if you are playing live while experiencing this run,considering the fact that you're still confident in your game,i dont know wtf to tell you to be honest.good luck though.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Lots of people running bad these days. I remembered tonight why I don't play holdem cash games live or online. Think I will stick to the 4 card stuff from now on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭Heisenberg.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭davidgti


    great read tom tumbs up m8.TILT PROBLEM it same way with myself:o i have to admit.im thinking of getting a person alongside me to watch me play and went im tilting pull me away from the pc.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    davidgti wrote:
    great read tom tumbs up m8.TILT PROBLEM it same way with myself:o i have to admit.im thinking of getting a person alongside me to watch me play and went im tilting pull me away from the pc.:rolleyes:

    or maybe you can just take it out on him through severe beatings.whatever works...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭The_Chopper


    That me?

    Yeah that was directed at you as you've said you're going through a horrid run and I was just curious as to what you're doing. Also you always post a good arguement - whether I agree with it or disagree with it I respect it - so thanks for the information.
    if you're playing much online,but if you are,playing live for a month or two would be a good idea.im sure you could beat live poker fairly comfertably over this time period irrespective of how you're running.

    I've always prefered playing poker live - and that's where the problems been. I think the fact that I've played in a regular ring game the last 14 months hasn't helped my game.

    Surprisingly online I've started to do ok - when i've played a proper role and not gone mad gambling at higher stakes.

    I'm actually fairly comfortable with my tournament game (nicnicnic could confirm or deny as I think he was the last person I played with for a long length of time on boards).

    I don't know - maybe someone should take that curse off me they put on me :D

    Hope it goes well for you Eoin and hope your luck changes Llyod and everyone else - apart from sideshow luckbox, :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭davidgti


    or maybe you can just take it out on him through severe beatings.whatever works...
    be nice now :D anyway tilt is the main prob i have and times i have to go out,tired etc... im gonna have a break and along thing about me and the future in poker as i love the game and want to keep playing,i need to focas more on wats ahead.another prob i know i have is opening 2 many tables like some days 8+ but i know its silly but get so board with 4.well after reading you post i think that will put me on the right line again:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    cheers ricki
    when i've played a proper role and not gone mad gambling at higher stakes.

    i think this is one of the biggest obstacles to overcome in online poker.its so hard to not jump up levels when you're running bad and stuck for the day.
    davidgti wrote:
    well after reading you post i think that will put me on the right line again:)

    thanks david,nice to know the post will be helpful for someone.gl in the future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    I'm actually fairly comfortable with my tournament game (nicnicnic could confirm or deny as I think he was the last person I played with for a long length of time on boards).


    consider it confirmed,:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Imposter


    I'm on a pretty bad run at the moment too and i'm struggling as to why that is!

    Does anyone else think that the legal situation in the US might have made the games harder or are most of the opinion it's just people going through the usual swings of variance? (Well there obviously could be other factors too but they're the 2 i'd like to believe and realistically they seem the most likely)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    good post.

    defo agree that tournaments are safer than cash games when your running bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭SIDESHOW BOBs


    wel ricky the circle seems to have gone 360

    Pot kettle black could be a moot point here, i seem to remember doubling you up twice in cork at christmas , then for you to give me the coup de gras, thats french for fcukin me right up !

    No grudges on my behalf though

    Id like to bring the sideshow roadshow to galway as soon as i get tooled up again

    i actually started to crush the 1/2 (cent) omaha on gjp last night , aa first hand and they hit AND held up :D , followed by flopping quads ducks and they held up , only only downside was giving back most when pf raising with a mid rundown , flopped str8 check called, turned hse chk rised all in only for my sole opponent to hit higher fh oh well ,was good to hit for a change:)

    Is it only me or the predicament im in at the mo or does a huge percentage of poker community seem to be running like paula radcliffe at present/

    whooever i speak to apart from a few notable exceptions has a tale of woe:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 406 ✭✭johnnysmurfman


    BANKROLL, BANKROLL, BANKROLL. If you don't bankroll then you are in big trouble and poker will just wreck your head. I played for years without one and poker wrecked my head. For the last 2 years I have played consistently with a bankroll that has never dropped below 3,000 big blinds (at the biggest game I play) and I found my game impoved significantly and I became completely destressed. I quit tournaments completely and just play cash, I just felt it was the right thing for me to do, I haven't played a tournament in over a year. I know people tell you that they bankroll but I would say that only the small minority have the discipline to do it properly. My bankroll is sacred. Even when I play live (which is rare these days) I won't even get a taxi home out of my poker money, it'll be in my wallet and my own money will be in my jacket pocket. I know it sounds crazy but try it, it totally takes the hassle out of poker and you really get to the stage where you don't really get upset about losing big pots because you couldn't have used the money anyway, it was just poker money. I bankroll for 6 month periods and at the end of those 6 months I withdraw any excess from the bankroll and add it to my "own" money. I think that you have to bankroll, it's essential, if you go around buying flatscreen televisions after you have a winning night then you're setting yourself up for a fall. Buy the television when you get your "poker wages" at the end of your bankroll period, that's what I say.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Is it only me or the predicament im in at the mo or does a huge percentage of poker community seem to be running like paula radcliffe at present/

    whooever i speak to apart from a few notable exceptions has a tale of woe:cool:
    I blame global warming.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 375 ✭✭kebabfest


    Maggie Thatcher has a lot to answer for.
    I gotta put some sort of block on my cashcard which wont let me take money out to gamble after 10-12 pints.
    ATM : So what are you going to spend your money on ?
    ME : no taxiiiissss, sooo I am going to wiiinn a load of cash down the casshhhiinnnoooooo
    ATM : Get back in that sleazy nightclub and invest your money in another couple of drinks for that dodgy blonde.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    Imposter wrote:
    I'm on a pretty bad run at the moment too and i'm struggling as to why that is!

    Does anyone else think that the legal situation in the US might have made the games harder or are most of the opinion it's just people going through the usual swings of variance? (Well there obviously could be other factors too but they're the 2 i'd like to believe and realistically they seem the most likely)

    i've been running badly recently and as a result haven't been playing nearly as much as usual,but i'm fairly certain that the games are getting harder and harder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭smurph


    Look handling T I L T is a big part of the game that people seem to forget alot about. It is a huge part of the game that is overlooked. We all read the books, practice hard at knowing immediatly your outs, positional play, tagging players looking for betting patterns etc., but losing 80 20's in games can hugely effect your play. Ive done it myself, lost AA to AK and spend 2 orbits looking over at the chips like they should belong to me, concentration goes out the window, suddenly your serious shortstack or even worse gone from the tournament.

    The thing you have to realise is that Tilt can seriously effect how your proceed in a tournament unless you control it. You can't change what has happened in the previous hand, but you still have control over your future actions. If I lose a big pot being miles ahead, I turn the volume up on the ipod or go for a walk and come back 2 hands later.

    someone wrote before that the 2 most dangerous hands to play in a tournament are the hands straight after you lose a massive pot, or win a massive pot.

    If you win, your happily collecting the chips, and might fail to notice the limp in from early position or the min-raise by the rock in the corner. If you lose you could be steaming and decide to play the next hand supper aggresively.

    Without getting too nancy breathing helps aswell, getting a bad beat is like getting a massive fright and my heart starts racing, as the temper rises. I find that taking deep breaths helps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    kebabfest wrote:
    Maggie Thatcher has a lot to answer for.
    I gotta put some sort of block on my cashcard which wont let me take money out to gamble after 10-12 pints.
    ATM : So what are you going to spend your money on ?
    ME : no taxiiiissss, sooo I am going to wiiinn a load of cash down the casshhhiinnnoooooo
    ATM : Get back in that sleazy nightclub and invest your money in another couple of drinks for that dodgy blonde.

    goddam talking ATMs and Maggie Thatcher in the same post :confused:

    disco biscuits?????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 375 ✭✭kebabfest


    Too many in the heat of Russian combat.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Sirtoyou


    a brilliant post eoin,
    long may you be successful.
    you are a great player very insightful and talented.
    you are also humble and one of the few players id seek strategy advice from.
    thank you,
    SIR


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