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Who is Jacob?

  • 14-04-2007 11:50AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭


    I just remembered the Carl character from earlier this season hasnt been seen in a long time and it got me thinking that he too could be a candidate. Alongside the other main 4 I think it possibly is:

    Nobody - he was made up by Ben to induce mindgames with the Others
    Hurley - (just a hunch)
    Jack (
    the last flashback this season will be a Jackback
    Locke (I want John to go to the darkside, it would be fantastic telly ;)

    And so many other possibilities Im sure. So, although Im not a fan of them, lets have a poll!

    Who Is Jacob? 40 votes

    Ben
    0% 0 votes
    Hurley
    7% 3 votes
    Locke
    17% 7 votes
    Jack
    17% 7 votes
    Juliet (she was told of Jacob's existence by Ben but you never know with Lost)
    0% 0 votes
    Sawyer
    0% 0 votes
    Locke's Dad
    0% 0 votes
    Jack's Dad
    17% 7 votes
    Kate
    40% 16 votes
    Other (please specify)
    0% 0 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Walt is Jacob.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭PullMyFinger!


    The boy who played Walt looks about a foot taller now (baring in mind that only 90 days have passed on the island), I cant see Walt ever returning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Whoever Jacob is s/he might not know it yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    I'm going to go with it being the black smoke!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    My guess is we haven't seen Jacob yet. However, I reckon
    we'll see him in the Ben flashbacks
    .


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Nobody - he was made up by Ben to induce mindgames with the Others
    Hurley - (just a hunch)
    Jack (
    the last flashback this season will be a Jackback
    Locke (I want John to go to the darkside, it would be fantastic telly ;)

    although certain things have made me think there could be an 'Expose' style swerve when revealing the big bad guy (Jacob) it wouldent be too logical for any of the main characters to be him, considering we have already been shown the losties pasts. We saw them all getting on the plane and coming close to death plus many scenes such as Ben revealing secrets 1on1 to people like Locke, which was hardly just for the audiences benefit.

    Although Lost isnt always what i would call logical, Polar bears, black smoke etc the most logical Jacob would be either Ben (once again using mind-games to keep control of the others) or an entirely new character.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    Going the biblical route, Jacob has to be Ben's dad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,342 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    PiE wrote:
    Going the biblical route, Jacob has to be Ben's dad.
    One of the science team - French womans husband.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,372 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    My guess is... Jack's dad. Just for no particular reason. He's connected with plenty of the characters and the island could have healed his problem of being dead somehow.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,555 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    offler... dude.. that sig is way too big

    if you have a point to make about that **** just put it in a thread


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    ^ isnt a bad idea, could also be a native to the island who put his son in charge of the others. Someone who knows all the secrets of the island but is searching for something or someone, as it would make sense if he somehow hand picked the losties. I also expect jacob to be revealedin bens flashbacks, so father makes sense.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,052 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    I'd have thought Jack's dad although Ben's dad probably makes more sense. I'm sure there's some biblical allusion at play there alright, so if a gun's to my head I'm going with Ben Sr. I definitely believe he exists though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    although certain things have made me think there could be an 'Expose' style swerve when revealing the big bad guy (Jacob) it wouldent be too logical for any of the main characters to be him, considering we have already been shown the losties pasts. We saw them all getting on the plane and coming close to death plus many scenes such as Ben revealing secrets 1on1 to people like Locke, which was hardly just for the audiences benefit.

    Although Lost isnt always what i would call logical, Polar bears, black smoke etc the most logical Jacob would be either Ben (once again using mind-games to keep control of the others) or an entirely new character.

    If (as I said above) whoever it is doesnt realise they are Jacob yet then its all still open.

    Lets take locke for example ... he has no idea of what his connection to the isle is. He may be yet to realise that he is meant to be someone?

    Does anyone get what I mean and have any idea how to explain it properly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Going the biblical route ..... LOcke is some sort of second coming of Jacob - he probably has four toes like that statue thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,722 ✭✭✭anotherlostie


    Daniel Meade in Ugly Betty* only has 4 toes.

    His father is Bradford Meade. Played by Alan Dale.

    Who is also Charles Widmore.

    So maybe it is him, or Mr Paik.

    I definitely think it is one of the Daddys. And thanks to the spider from Expose, it is possible that Jack's Dad isn't as dead as was thought.

    * and Goodwin was Wilhelmina's Texan squeeze too. Are actors in that short supply???!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭abelard


    I'm probably crazy for even thinking this, but was it ever explicitly said (or strongly implied) that Jacob is a person?

    Perhaps something like a computer or an algorithm instead? Maybe even that Valenzetti Equation from the Lost Experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭PullMyFinger!


    abelard wrote:
    I'm probably crazy for even thinking this, but was it ever explicitly said (or strongly implied) that Jacob is a person?

    Wow, that was right under my nose! Maybe J.A.C.O.B. stands for 5 different words and it controls Smokie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    I think Jacob is probably someone we haven't seen yet, apart from maybe in a flashback. So far, the strongest candidate is Charles Widmore. Maybe we'll find out more in the next Desmond flashback. I think Christian Shepherd is still alive and involved in it too but he's not Jacob.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    I really feel Jacob is a person we have never seen. You must remember that, this Jacob character must have existed before the Losties crashed on the island in the first place. I don't know who it is yet but i don't think he/she will be reveled for a long time yet.

    BTW, nice thread :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭BopNiblets


    VINCENT!! :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭Killaqueen!!!


    What exactly has been said about Jacob so far? (Spoiler anything from last episode please though!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    What exactly has been said about Jacob so far? (Spoiler anything from last episode please though!)
    From "I do", Pickett said "He wasn't even on Jacob's list."
    From "Not in Portland", one of the screen thingies in the clockwork orange scene said "god loves you as he loved Jacob".
    From "Loser in a Strange Land", Carl said "god loves you as he loved Jacob".
    Then Ben mentioned him a few times in the last eppy.

    Actually, this brings up another theory I had before. That Jacob is in fact dead. Notice the past tense "loved" Jacob. Either Jacob's dead or God doesn't love him anymore...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭Killaqueen!!!


    Thanks for that.

    Interesting that everyone speculates if Jacob is behind a lot of stuff thats going on in Lost at the moment, just from those few sentances. He mightn't be important at all! And if he is, I doubt we'll see him til season 4...:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Well seeing as people want to know who Jacob is and think its in some way biblical has anyone researched the figure of Jacob in the bible?

    Its said that God loved Jacob but actually hated his twin brother "Esau". Jacob is the one who had the vision of the angels assecending into the heavens (jacobs ladder) only to fall back to earth.

    Jacob is also the father of Joseph (and his technicoloured coat) - he had another son (actually 12 in all) called Benjamin.

    Check out this wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob#Jacob_and_Joseph
    When the famine struck, the sons of Jacob went down to Egypt to procure grain for their starving families in Canaan. Joseph recognized them, and demanded to see the twelfth brother of whom they spoke, his own full-brother, Benjamin. He took Simeon as a hostage until they returned with Benjamin. Jacob was distraught when he heard this news, for Benjamin was all that was left to him of his beloved wife Rachel's children, and he refused to release him lest something happen to Benjamin, too. But when their food stores ran out and the famine worsened, Jacob agreed to Judah's promise to protect Benjamin from harm. The brothers returned to Joseph, and when Joseph saw Benjamin he was overcome with emotion, and revealed himself to his brothers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    So what if Lockes dad isn't his biological dad and Ben & Locke are actually brothers? Its a bit far out but wouldnt it be cool?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭damnyanks


    locke was adopted ? if so could be possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭upmeath


    I went for Jack's dad but I'm also wary of the significance of the De Groots AND Alvar Hanso... Charles Widmore perhaps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,120 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    I think its either Widmore or someone tured renegade from Dharma


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    I think its either Widmore or someone tured renegade from Dharma

    Widmore is a good guess, but i really still feel we have never seen Jacob before.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    Is it possible that Jacob isn't real?
    Maybe Ben made him up, built him up as a glorified leader, so that Ben could justify any of his own actions by saying that they came from Jacob's orders...
    Also Ben would seem more on the same level as the other Others as they would all be working for somebody else


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