Guillard tests positive for cocaine

Subbway

http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/04/13/report-melvin-guillard-tests-positive-for-cocaine/

So basicly he either has had to use it a lot or less than week before the fight.

Sheesh.

Vince135792003

No wonder he threw 500 punches (slight exaggeration) in about 20 seconds against Joe Stevenson.

Dragan

And the humerous thing is that he was accusing Joe of being a gear bag.

Guillard becomes the first ever MMA fighter to test positive for cocaine metabolite, according to the Web site.

And this bit is balls, because Ricco test postivie for it months ago.

Valmont

Dragan wrote:

And this bit is balls, because Ricco test postivie for it months ago.

Sherdog says he's the first in the state of Nevada, maybe Ricco got busted somewhere else.

I can deal with a few fighters having some weed, but when coke comes into it, it's a different story all together. I seriously doubt Diaz toked before his fight but I think with coke there must be plenty of advantages to snorting before a fight? Im not too sure.

Dragan

Valmont wrote:

Sherdog says he's the first in the state of Nevada, maybe Ricco got busted somewhere else.

Yeah, Ricco got busted in Cali.

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dlofnep

he didnt use it during ther fight. what he does on his own time socially is his own business IMO.

Dragan

dlofnep wrote:

he didnt use it during ther fight. what he does on his own time socially is his own business IMO.

Not really. It's obviously test for, so is on the banned listed. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what he was using it for or when.

If your governing body bans coffee then you don't use coffee. Simple as.

dlofnep

Dragan wrote:

Not really. It's obviously test for, so is on the banned listed. At the end of the day it doesn't matter what he was using it for or when.

If your governing body bans coffee then you don't use coffee. Simple as.

Granted, it's on the banned list. My point was, it's his own business what he does with his time socially. Who are we to judge him because of it? coke isn't going to improve his performance in the cage, so really - it doesn't matter to me. i've seen people saying he should be banned for life because of it. Along with Diaz's decision being changed to a NC over smoking a simple spliff. If he took roids, then I'd have something to say.. but he didn't... He snorted a few lines of coke. Big deal. It's not the end of the world.

Tim_Murphy

I'd agree with you there John. People judges others for using things like coke or weed whilst being in a general state of denial over the level of alcohol abuse in this country is something that annoys me.

dlofnep

The only difference is alcohol is not only socially acceptable, but socially promoted.

Imagine the headlines on sherdog.

Tank Abbott win over Cabbage overturned


Tank Abbott win over Cabbage overturned due to Tank consuming 3 pints of lager week before fight. MMA fans on forums expressed their anger. One forum poster was quoted as saying "How dare he consume alcohol a week before his fight. He should be ashamed!"

NSAC director, Keith Kizer went on to state "Mr. Abbott had consumed 3 pints of lager 7 days before the fight. We feel that the benefits of alcohol are increased threshold of pain and harder punching and therefor, given the circumstances had to overturn Mr. Abbott's win."

goo

Fact is, no matter how extreme the penalty he gets is, he's brought it on himself. I feel bad for him, and Nick Diaz especially, but you can't complain too much when you've brought it on yourself.

Roper

Tim_Murphy wrote:

I'd agree with you there John. People judges others for using things like coke or weed whilst being in a general state of denial over the level of alcohol abuse in this country is something that annoys me.

While I'd agree with that sentiment, I'd also point out that as an athlete he would know that coke is on the banned list, so if he took it within a traceable time, he's culpable.

Also, to elevate the argument slightly- Alcohol isn't, in general, made and distributed by criminals, so theres a moral issue there too that people conveniently ignore.

First Ricco then Melvin, hmmmmm Team Punishment arent exactly basking in glory right now are they!!

Tim_Murphy

I'd also point out that as an athlete he would know that coke is on the banned list, so if he took it within a traceable time, he's culpable.

I'm not denying it's a dumb ass thing to do, it obviously is when a person knows that they might be tested. It's just hypocritical attitudes I don't like!

goo

Thing is no organisation is going to be the first to say "here, cocaine's got nothing to do with fighting, who cares?". People's outrage at these results might be down to how use of cocaine and all is illegal, not that these guys fought with them in their system.

Dragan

The remit of an Athletic Commission is, as far as i am concerned, to not only be a governing body for events in that state but all to ensure fighter safety. Part of that process is the drug test.

They also need to be sure that a positive image is being put forward of the sport and fighters need to know that if they are doing stuff that is, at the end of the day against the law, then they will be caught.

As such i can fully understand the commission testing all athletes for what are at the end of the day banned illegal substances.

Also, on the point of cocaine not being PED.... i would disagree. I have had more than one incident in my night job of punters on coke and can only say from my own experience that it does a lot to up confidence, agression and resistance to pain in certain people though granted in any fight situation there would be certain negatives to being on coke also.

cowzerp

I agree with dragan on the possible benefits of cocaine, but the negatives will out weigh the positives in a fight and i believe against a good fighter this would go against the drug taker. i'd have no problem fighting a coke head-:D