Changing My Surname/

not14talk · 12-04-2007 12:21am #1

Quick question if I was to change my surname into Irish would I have to get a change of name form or could I just put it down on all my forms from now on?

_blank_ · 12-04-2007 12:26am

A mate of mine has her Irish (given-name and surname) version on her passport.

You can use both, but it did cause her problems on a recent world trip (Thailand, Oz, NZ, USA, Mehico, UK) that the name on the ticket didn't match her passport name.

Darven · 12-04-2007 9:54am

what i recommedn you do is have an observation put on your passport that this person Mary Ryan is also known by Maire Ni Rian. i know friends who have done that. where they were christened whatever but always called something different. that should sort a few problems but then when it comes to bank and credit cards etc it can get messy. im trying to get mortgage at moment and i can see how having no set format could be a problem for people

WindSock · 12-04-2007 10:15am

Yes, I too would like to use my gaylick name, but it does seem to be more hassle than it's worth to change it at this stage.

KTRIC · 12-04-2007 10:20am

boreds wrote:

Yes, I too would like to use my gaylick name, but it does seem to be more hassle than it's worth to change it at this stage.

Gaylick ???? :eek:

wTF !!!

kevmy · 12-04-2007 10:33am

AFAIK in Ireland the name you use is your name for most if not all purposes. For example my father uses his middle name on everything including passport for years. But some bank he joined when he was young still has his original name ie the one on his birth cert.

Just put it down on all official forms from now on and you'll prob get away with it. Sharon Ni Bheolain actually is one who just uses her Irish name without actually being officially named as Gaeilge.

WindSock · 12-04-2007 10:34am

Sorry, I meant Geelick

(immature, me?)

connundrum · 12-04-2007 12:49pm

boreds wrote:

Sorry, I meant Geelick (immature, me?)

Just for that you're not allowed to have one now.

St Patrick would be turning in his Welsh grave!

nesf · 12-04-2007 2:32pm

Legally here you can use either the English or Irish translation of your name. You are also allowed (afaik) translate your name if it is in another language to it's English or Irish equivalent, Patrice to Patrick or Pádraig and so on. I can use O'Sullivan or Ó Súilleabháin for instance. The two are viewed as being the same surname essentially (or something like that, I don't know the exact legal stuff behind it).

The only issue is the hassle of potentially have two different looking surnames on identification or bills. In this country it's not really an issue but outside of Ireland you could have a very difficult time explaining that you hold both surnames going through security etc.

If you pick one stick with it and use it for everything, try to avoid having both on stuff since it'll just create hassle for yourself.

WindSock · 12-04-2007 3:48pm

connundrum wrote:

Just for that you're not allowed to have one now.

St Patrick would be turning in his Welsh grave!

Whats St Pat got to do, got to do with it?

Isobel · 12-04-2007 4:29pm

If you're that adament to have an Irish name why not just change it legally? and then you can change all your legal documents, bank cards etc in one go

Tigrrrr · 12-04-2007 4:58pm

nesf wrote:

Legally here you can use either the English or Irish translation of your name.

Does that include getting a new passport, you just write the Irish version even though the birth certificate would be as Béarla? Because I have an horrible, horrible British surname and would prefer something gravelly, hewn from Galway granite. And my passport is due to be renewed:)

nesf · 12-04-2007 5:06pm

Tigrrrr wrote:

Does that include getting a new passport, you just write the Irish version even though the birth certificate would be as Béarla? Because I have an horrible, horrible British surname and would prefer something gravelly, hewn from Galway granite. And my passport is due to be renewed:)

I don't know, your best bet would be to check citizensinformation.ie or something. I just know that there's no issue with alternating between the two so long as they are direct translations of each other. If you wanted to pick a new Irish surname that wasn't a translation of your present English one then it's a lot more complicated as far as I know.

NiSmO · 12-04-2007 5:12pm

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Oral Slang · 12-04-2007 5:46pm

I have my passport in english, but all of my banking, phone etc. is done with my surname in irish.
Only caused me hassle once when I put my name from my visa card down as my passenger name when flying. The person at the check in desk was a bit dubious, but thankfully let me fly, when I explained. This was in Dublin airport, had no trouble on my return & now always make sure that my name is in english for all flights!

The_B_Man · 12-04-2007 6:06pm

can u not just write it on in pen?

12-04-2007 6:21pm

The_B_Man wrote:

can u not just write it on in pen?

No, just no.

At your txt-speak, not your suggestion-- but thats a bit silly too.

And yes, I realise it's supposed to be, but I'm bustin' chops. (Aaahh scrubs)

The_B_Man · 12-04-2007 6:35pm

me txt-speak? i used "u" instead of "you". hardly contitutes txt-speak.

not14talk · 12-04-2007 6:38pm

Thanks for the replys might look into this. By the way my 1st name is Irish and my surname is Irish but has been translated into English with an 'O' put on the front of it.