Fairy/Faeries

WindSock

Ah, all these ghosts and no fai/eries. Anyone ever have any encounters? My friends mother said once she and her sister saw some dance around in a circle and they had no legs. Thats about as close as I've gotten.

ladybirdirl

Hi Boreds,

you raise an interesting point actually.

Where I'm from in Munster there is a 'lough' and a faerie ring beside it - I've always found that there's a strange energy there - sort of mischievous. I've never seen any of the little creatures myself but it's widely accepted in the locality that lots of people have seen them - some locals even go there to ask for lost things to be returned

I know some don't believe in them but to my mind it's as believable as any other spirit

Ladybird

kshiel

i was told of an meditation so to speak to ask them to cleanse your aura. Would be interested in hearing what people think of these and other nature spirits.

Nevyn

Asking the fey to cleans your aura ???
I'd but that up there with juggling with chainsaws, but please let us know the results if you try it.

ladybirdirl

Kshiel,

A friend of mine who is a tarot reader & healer always keeps a deck of fairy/nature cards. At the end of a healing she always gets the client to choose 3 of these cards as messages from your 'nature spirits'

Have to say anytime I've had it done, the messages seem to be spot on

Ladybird:)

kshiel

Thaedydal wrote:

Asking the fey to cleans your aura ???
I'd but that up there with juggling with chainsaws, but please let us know the results if you try it.

I haven't tried it, like you say dont know enough about them to go down that road.

kshiel

ladybirdirl wrote:

Kshiel,

A friend of mine who is a tarot reader & healer always keeps a deck of fairy/nature cards. At the end of a healing she always gets the client to choose 3 of these cards as messages from your 'nature spirits'

Have to say anytime I've had it done, the messages seem to be spot on

Ladybird:)

I got these cards mixed up the the angel cards in a reading once and I will say these cards to me had a very powerful sense to them (not to good at explaining what I mean). I find the whole nature spirit side very interesting, unfortunatley I only know what I have read or been told through stories etc.

ladybirdirl

Yup Kshiel,

I would be exactly the same - they do seem to make sense with me but I don't necessarily have anything other than stories and my few experiences to go on

LB

Riamfada

ladybird

whats the fairy ring look like, also whats the name of the ring or the townland its situated in?

ladybirdirl

Grimes,

It's in a place called Lough Gur

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/midsummer_fairy_aine.html

Info in the link above

It's very cool really - a short way from the stone ring thingy(south or east,can't remember which), there's a flattened area of grass/earth and that's the ring apparently

the whole area is amazing - the site was excavated and they found I think 8 old bodies ( I think neolithic but I could be wrong there, old anyway) and the banshee apparently screamed for days around the lake on summer solstice

Ladybird

Riamfada

Ah Lough Gur ! You are luck to live by such a site. I guess its local legend that these are fairy rings however they are in fact Neolithic or Bronze age ritual stone circles. The fairy rings come from an old need to explain these sites and obviously people looked to the faries. Hence we cant use "fairy rings" as any sort of proof of fairies.

Some stone circles vary in preservation from sites such as Stonehenge to a circle of tiny little eroded lumps in the ground


Lough Gur has practically everything. Stone age settlement, Crannog sites, Ringforts and rectangular dwellings, settlement dating from 3000bc to 1000ad !!! And THEN a Tower House (simular to Leap) which goes on right through the Medieval Period. Its truely fantastic. The burials could date from any period but im sure its out there somewhere.

Anyway point being, 100 years ago people saw these strange stone circles and attributed them to fairies however they were deffo man made sites. Claiming they originate from fairies is like saying a cyclops built Christ Church Cathederal :P

Zillah

Thaedydal wrote:

Asking the fey to cleans your aura ???
I'd but that up there with juggling with chainsaws, but please let us know the results if you try it.

If you could point me towards someone whos had the equivalent of having their hands hacked off by the Sidhe I'd be very interested to see it

Nevyn

Why don't you try it for yourself as all experiences are after all subjective.

WindSock

I would think it a bad Idea to open yourself up to the trickery of the sidhe. But I don't know much about them are they considered good or evil, or are they just a class of their own?

kshiel

Now I dont know how accurate/false any of this is in the attached links but might interest some?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_beings_referred_to_as_fairies


http://faerie.monstrous.com/faeries_tricks_and_crimes.htm

karynp

I am a firm believer in faeries, im also a positive thinker on them, I see them as nature spirits with a mischevious side to them, a naughtiness if you like.
I have had the most amazing messages from them channelled for me, twice, by two channels who did not know me, they both said the same thing, that i was from the faery realm and here as an incarnate,that it would become clear in time to me, they both gave me the same name that i am known by and said i was the bringer of joy, of course,at the time, i didnt believe a word of it,until recently,i have met this lady,and she is also a channel,works with the White Brotherhood, she asked me if id ever thought i was a faery,she has on tape that a faery would be sent to her,in human form,she also spoke the same name as the other 2, so now, im speaking with the spirit world to find out more............i also have a deck of faery oracle cards, i did not buy them , i dont know where they came from, i just have them....
When i was about 16 i got visited by a troll in my bedroom,he was a very negative troll and to hypnotise me,a long story,but yes, faeries are real,as are trolls............

ladybirdirl

Grimes wrote:

Ah Lough Gur ! You are luck to live by such a site. I guess its local legend that these are fairy rings however they are in fact Neolithic or Bronze age ritual stone circles. The fairy rings come from an old need to explain these sites and obviously people looked to the faries. Hence we cant use "fairy rings" as any sort of proof of fairies.

Some stone circles vary in preservation from sites such as Stonehenge to a circle of tiny little eroded lumps in the ground


Lough Gur has practically everything. Stone age settlement, Crannog sites, Ringforts and rectangular dwellings, settlement dating from 3000bc to 1000ad !!! And THEN a Tower House (simular to Leap) which goes on right through the Medieval Period. Its truely fantastic. The burials could date from any period but im sure its out there somewhere.

Anyway point being, 100 years ago people saw these strange stone circles and attributed them to fairies however they were deffo man made sites. Claiming they originate from fairies is like saying a cyclops built Christ Church Cathederal :P

Thanks for the info but I think you're missing my point - yes the stone circles are there but the local termed ' fairy ring' is a differeny thing altogether

Lb

Riamfada

do you mean rings of mushrooms?

Nevyn

Fairy rings can be amde up of serval things and there are of course fairy trees.

Zillah

Thaedydal wrote:

Fairy rings can be amde up of serval things and there are of course fairy trees.

Of course.

Whats a fairy tree?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

does azezil count?

Nevyn

Mordeth wrote:

does azezil count?

No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_ring

Zillah wrote:

Whats a fairy tree?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_hawthorn

In Gaelic folklore, hawthorn (in Scottish Gaelic, Sgitheach) 'marks the entrance to the otherworld' and is strongly associated with the fairies.[2] Lore has it that it is very unlucky to cut the tree at any time other than when it is in bloom, however during this time it is commonly cut and decorated as a May Bush (see Beltane).[3] Hawthorn trees are often found beside clootie wells; at these types of holy wells they are sometimes known as 'rag trees', for the strips of cloth which are tied to them as part of healing rituals.[4]

http://www.client.teagasc.ie/environment/press-articles/farmers_journal/archive/2003/03.05.03.asp
http://www.whitethorn.net/whitethorn.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy
When you are refering to fairies you have to rememer that there are many culture that have such beings and that when you are refering to those of this land then it is a very certain group whuch is made of pf differing tribes and have have thier own rules and laws of hospitality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%ADdhe

imprezza

What's the point of a board where everyone just gives links, we all have google and anyone can write stuff for wikipaedia so I for one don't believe verything there. The best book I ever read on this subject is "Fairies at work and at play" by Geoffrey Hodson. It was published in the 1920s or 30s but you might get your hands on a copy. It describes nature spirits etc I was gobsmacked because I'd seen a lot of what he described when I was a kid.

Nevyn

There is a limit of what I will post about this in the the paranormal forum.
Hence the links.

WindSock

Mordeth wrote:

does azezil count?

What's azezil?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

you lucky, lucky bastard

WindSock

''When you are refering to fairies you have to rememer that there are many culture that have such beings and that when you are refering to those of this land then it is a very certain group whuch is made of pf differing tribes and have have thier own rules and laws of hospitality.''

I suppose I would like to hear about the Irish ones including pookas, banshees, leprechauns etc. But it would be interesting to hear of other ones from other countries/cultures too.

WindSock

Mordeth wrote:

you lucky, lucky bastard

Whats that now? Something to do with The life of Brian, that I missed?

Nevyn

boreds I would suggest that you look at folklore stories about them.
Even Pieg had some stories about them in it.

mossieh

Thaedydal wrote:

There is a limit of what I will post about this in the the paranormal forum.
Hence the links.

Why? Genuinely curious about this stance...are fairy stories somehow less valid than tales of other paranormal phenomena? Are they any more or less proveable?

Nevyn

I would say less provible to paranormal investigation and my beilefs and interactions are part of my spiritual path.

GuanYin

Lads, lets just remember what forum we're in and the rules that govern it.

GuanYin

Grimes?

would you mind explaining the mushroom comment in your next post please?

Nevyn

mossieh

Thaedydal wrote:

I would say less provible to paranormal investigation and my beilefs and interactions are part of my spiritual path.

I would have thought (note - only my opinion) that a lot of what is usually described as 'the paranormal' would have similar roots to the European/Irish folktales and for that matter, most of the major religions, i.e. a need to provide explanation for what were at the time, inexplicable occurences and phenomena. The varying contexts of geography and cultures gave rise to local differences in the stories but the subject matter was often consistent. Are the fairies/faerie/sidh of folklore not likely to be what people then called what some users of this site would describe as spirits?

My position on these beliefs is probably not difficult to deduce but I find it hard to understand how if one can stretch ones credulity or willingness to believe far enough to encompass the regular subject matter on here, surely it's not a major leap of the imagination to include the fairies?

One final question, (and again, I'm not being facetious, I think any belief system worth having should be robust enough to stand some gentle questioning), what exactly constitutes a 'spiritual path'? It seems quite a precise term and I'm curious as to it's meaning.

Nevyn

mossieh wrote:

I would have thought (note - only my opinion) that a lot of what is usually described as 'the paranormal' would have similar roots to the European/Irish folktales and for that matter, most of the major religions, i.e. a need to provide explanation for what were at the time, inexplicable occurences and phenomena. The varying contexts of geography and cultures gave rise to local differences in the stories but the subject matter was often consistent. Are the fairies/faerie/sidh of folklore not likely to be what people then called what some users of this site would describe as spirits?

I personally don't view those things as paranormal or supernatural.
A paranormal frame for me means looking for a way to phycially record or measure such events in a scientific manner which means it has to be repeatible and that is of intrest of to me rather then using those scientific means to futher my understandings.

mossieh wrote:

My position on these beliefs is probably not difficult to deduce but I find it hard to understand how if one can stretch ones credulity or willingness to believe far enough to encompass the regular subject matter on here, surely it's not a major leap of the imagination to include the fairies?

I can certainly see how that may be the case for some but it is not so for myself I would not but them in the same catagory at all.

mossieh wrote:

One final question, (and again, I'm not being facetious, I think any belief system worth having should be robust enough to stand some gentle questioning), what exactly constitutes a 'spiritual path'? It seems quite a precise term and I'm curious as to it's meaning.

Such questioning may be done in forums other then this, I have posted a lot about my belifs in both the paganism and the spirituality forums.
Again you may raise the topic of what is or consitutes a spiritual path in either of those forums as it would be off topic to here.

mossieh

Thaedydal wrote:

I personally don't view those things as paranormal or supernatural.
A paranormal frame for me means looking for a way to phycially record or measure such events in a scientific manner which means it has to be repeatible and that is of intrest of to me rather then using those scientific means to futher my understandings.

I'm sorry, but, what? I don't understand the last part of that statement at all.
And it didn't address my question in any way. What is the point of using scientific deduction if not to further understanding? And why could the scientific techniques (if such exist, I don't know) which are applied to the detection of the paranormal not be applied to the detection of fairies?

Thaedydal wrote:

I can certainly see how that may be the case for some but it is not so for myself I would not but them in the same catagory at all.

That's fair enough. Out of interest, what category would you put them in?

Thaedydal wrote:

Such questioning may be done in forums other then this, I have posted a lot about my belifs in both the paganism and the spirituality forums.
Again you may raise the topic of what is or consitutes a spiritual path in either of those forums as it would be off topic to here.

Sorry, your mentioning it piqued my curiousity, I'll certainly do that.

WindSock

Thaedydal wrote:

boreds I would suggest that you look at folklore stories about them.
Even Pieg had some stories about them in it.

I've read a couple of books about different the types of Irish Sidhe, but I would like to hear more of personal experiences.

Nevyn

mossieh wrote:

I'm sorry, but, what? I don't understand the last part of that statement at all.
And it didn't address my question in any way. What is the point of using scientific deduction if not to further understanding? And why could the scientific techniques (if such exist, I don't know) which are applied to the detection of the paranormal not be applied to the detection of fairies?

I don't need data from scientific techniques to futher my personal understandings and so have no intrest.

Those techniques could most certingly be applied to trying to detect 'fairies' but I would be doubtful to them having any sucess.

mossieh wrote:

That's fair enough. Out of interest, what category would you put them in?

They have several of thier own depending on what type and tribe and from where at least to my knowledge and understandings.

boreds it is usally not something easily spoken of tbh for a lot of people.
I would suggest you look at the ucc and ucd folklore dept and the current collection being done in and around co claire.

WindSock

Thaedydal wrote:

it is usally not something easily spoken of tbh for a lot of people.
I would suggest you look at the ucc and ucd folklore dept and the current collection being done in and around co claire.

Oh right. I guess thats why I don't hear much about it then. I Don't really know much on the subject and perhaps should do some more research. I just presumed Irish Sidhe were much in the same realm as ghosts and other spirits, and that people usually talk so readily about haunting experiences. I didn't realise Fairy experiences were perhaps different. Thanks, I will try and find the work from the ucc/d collections somehow.

dreamingoak

karen that all sounds facinating... u can come to me anytime for a reading, as id love to have a poke about and see whats going on there! Ive been a practicing clairvoyant for some time, dealing with all sorts of levels, spirit babies, those who've passed on, guides of different levels, angels etc, etc, and my interest is just starting to turn to the fairy level. so if u dont mind being a guinea pig, pm me. xx

karynp

Hey Dreaming Oak, I just pm d you girl!

stormkeeper

My mum told me that she actually saw a fairy once some time ago. She told me that it was looking in, and was a bit bigger than a dragonfly, which I found pretty interesting.

karynp

Thats cool, would love to see one in the flesh, in my meditation the other night i saw a fairy,sitting on a rock,all cheecky and messed hair, I had been asking to speak to the fairy realm as im looking for info off them.The troll type man who visited me years ago was about 3 foot tall.

stormkeeper

It'd be interesting to see for sure, although I'd need a few minutes to tell myself I wasn't in some fantasy world! I'm luckily able to tell the difference between fantasy and reality, but there's some times when you have to wonder if your imagination is running away with you!

karynp

you better believe it,theres times when im unsure if im here or not, i seem to live in my head a lot,lol, always thinking of spirit world and then the daydreams come in and the night dreams,hee hee, and then theres reality on top of that, as for fairy folk, well i totally believe they are real,naughty but nice, i dont believe they dance you off and keep you captive,no,i believe,they reside in nature and do their own thing........