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Life on mars

  • 08-04-2007 04:00PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭


    so this tuesday is the ending for the great show

    any opinions on how it will end?
    is he insane?
    is he in a coma? (too obvious)
    Has he gone back in time?

    well they did promise us a surprise so its probably none of the above


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭purplegeko


    I think he is just in a coma but has been for a lot longer than we think. i have no idea how it will end i haven't been as excited about this series as i was about the last i have no idea why i because i still think the writing is top notch i am excited about the finale though
    Unusual they are ending after 2 seasons but they are going out on a high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Sidney77 wrote:
    well they did promise us a surprise so its probably none of the above
    They shot two alternate endings.

    One giveaway is the story early on in the current series where he arrests the casino owner that he know will murder later on in life, and whom he gets committed to a mental asylum.

    In the 'coma' flash-backs, or flash-forwards, the villian has gotten out of the looney-bin and is trying to disconnect Sam from the life-saving equipment at the hospital in the present day.

    This meants that actions Sam performs in 1973 effect in events in his future. So therefore he must be really in both a coma *and* in 1973.

    Having said that, and having enjoyed the series very much, I suspect that they are going to go with a way-out and highly disappointing ending.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Well t'is over, bit of a predictable ending with a twist.

    Leaves the way open for the rumoured sequel, 'Ashes to Ashes' which is supposed to be set in 1980, and of course Sam will still be in a coma after jumping off that roof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭fatboypee


    I missed it, what happened ?

    Thanks

    Fatboy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Well t'is over, bit of a predictable ending with a twist.

    Leaves the way open for the rumoured sequel, 'Ashes to Ashes' which is supposed to be set in 1980, and of course Sam will still be in a coma after jumping off that roof.

    Great series and I liked the ending.
    Ashes to Ashes, which will include most of the cast, is confirmed but Sam will not be back. Blog here from the Manchester Evening News.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Yeah, I don't know, I'm kinda dissapointed with that ending. Not sure I even understood it to be perfectly honest.

    Without the counterpoint of Sam I can picture Gene Hunt's antics getting old fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Earthhorse wrote:
    Yeah, I don't know, I'm kinda dissapointed with that ending. Not sure I even understood it to be perfectly honest.
    Me too. He goes and tops himself because he prefered life in a coma? Sorry, don't get it.

    Great link is_that_so, check out the linked 'The Railway Arms' site for all things Mars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Well we don't know that he's dead.

    I think it ended as well as it could really end. Sad to see it go in one way, glad they went out when they did in another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    BuffyBot wrote:
    Well we don't know that he's dead.

    That's the thing. He would appear to still be in a coma at the end, but it's unbelievable that he could put himself back in that state by jumping off the top of a building, unless he never actually woke up in the first place.

    I don't know, it's too unclear if you ask me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Earthhorse wrote:
    I don't know, it's too unclear if you ask me.
    I read the interview from one of the writers posted up by one of the posters.

    Basically, Sam is dead. When he tunes out the radio station saying "I never liked that channel" the voice on the radio is saying "we're losing him...he's gone".

    He drives off into the sunset...smash me over the head with the metaphor why-doncha.

    Plus the scary test card girl switches off your TV at the very end, is supposed to symbolise the end of Sam's story to the viewer.

    Plus, John Simm has refused the offer to play Sam Tyler again.

    All in all, I think it's a very bleak-end to the series. It makes no sense why the character of Sam Tyler would top-himself to get back into an unreal world again.

    I can see them developing Sam's 'Coma World' late into series 2 of 'Ashes to Ashes' as being some sort of 'cop-heaven', as the new female character will have Sam's original notes and will experience the same characters.

    Still, it's been one of the most original series that the beeb have cranked out since Quatermass.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,720 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Ah, fair enough. My dad kept going to switch over to the soccer for the last two minutes, thinking it was over, so I was quite tense yelling at him not to.

    Thanks for posting that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 maireadrua


    I tell ya, being in my BBC-less flat, trying to track down a non-torrent d/l of this ep is like trying to locate the Bermuda Triangle - nigh on impossible! (except for that one ep of the X-Files where Mulder and Scully were on a boat there, but that was just plain odd...:p )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 893 ✭✭✭Doodlebug


    Having followed both series, I was very happy with the ending - the LOST crew should take a look at this! :)

    It certainly kept you on the edge of the seat until the very end!

    Not bad from a few Eastenders writers!

    Looking forward to Ashes to Ashes next year - roll on 1981!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭grumpytrousers


    Course they're frigged if they try to extend the franchise to the nineties...can YOU think of a Bowie track that troubled the charts in the last 17 years...

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Basically, Sam is dead. When he tunes out the radio station saying "I never liked that channel" the voice on the radio is saying "we're losing him...he's gone".

    All in all, I think it's a very bleak-end to the series. It makes no sense why the character of Sam Tyler would top-himself to get back into an unreal world again.

    It makes perfect sense within the logic of the story, why put up with a bleak miserable reality of 2006 when you have a girl waiting for you in sunny 1973?


    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    mike65 wrote:
    It makes perfect sense within the logic of the story, why put up with a bleak miserable reality of 2006 when you have a girl waiting for you in sunny 1973?
    ...because she's not real. She's a makey-up girlfriend who exists only in Sam's head!

    Although I think when they come to writing Ashes to Ashes, they'll have to give the Gene Hunt world an external reality as the female lead character will travel back to that same place, or maybe the female character will reconstruct it in her own head, as she was the one Sam gave all his notes about his coma-world in the present day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    ...because she's not real. She's a makey-up girlfriend who exists only in Sam's head!

    Although I think when they come to writing Ashes to Ashes, they'll have to give the Gene Hunt world an external reality as the female lead character will travel back to that same place, or maybe the female character will reconstruct it in her own head, as she was the one Sam gave all his notes about his coma-world in the present day.

    Simple DublinWriter, when reggie the barman told sam that you were only alive "if you can feel it", or something along those lines he realised just how REAL 1973 was to him.
    He went back to the future, so to speak, and was bored, he didnt FEEL like he was living, symbolised by the bit where he cut his finger during the meeting.
    So all in all 1973 WAS real to Sam, he could feel it.
    It seemed to me that the writers were trying to show that we were already living in that Orwellian future that we all fear, where everything is so sterile and bland?

    I felt it all tied up a little to easy though, maybe it should have ended with Sam throwing himself off the building, leaving the viewer guessing and adding a little melancholy and uncertainty to it all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Can't be doing that that these days I'm afraid no-one would watch the repeats.

    Mike.

    ps Glad you understood my point!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Eirebear wrote:
    So all in all 1973 WAS real to Sam, he could feel it.
    Kinda like the dilemma Kirk faced in the Nexus...damn, now you have made me accidentally out myself as a Trekor (never a Treckkie).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Kinda like the dilemma Kirk faced in the Nexus...damn, now you have made me accidentally out myself as a Trekor (never a Treckkie).

    LOL sorry DW i would never intentionally do that to anyone :p


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