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Aircraft Tracking Over Ireland

  • 08-04-2007 10:06am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 847 ✭✭✭


    It really amazes me to see how many aircraft fly over where i live in Waterford. With the sky being so clear lately you get to see how busy our Irish skies really are. I have always wanted to know where these aircraft are travelling to and what kind of aircraft they are. Is there anyway i can do that? Is there any live tracking facility that covers Irish skies? Tia


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 DrFunkenstein


    Was looking for images of flight paths and timetables as well due to the very noticable increase in traffic up there, without any luck :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 847 ✭✭✭mickger


    Was looking for images of flight paths and timetables as well due to the very noticable increase in traffic up there, without any luck :(

    I searched myself but with no luck. There must be someone out there that has info on this. Just came back from a walk and i counted 10 jets in the sky most of them going in a westerly direction with a few going east.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 847 ✭✭✭mickger


    nevf wrote:

    :D just a tad outside my price range lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    mickger wrote:
    I searched myself but with no luck. There must be someone out there that has info on this. Just came back from a walk and i counted 10 jets in the sky most of them going in a westerly direction with a few going east.

    Over 90% of traffic between Europe and North America transits Irish airspace.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    Hi,

    You may notice early in the morning most of the traffic is eastbound , in the afternoon , westbound.

    As therecklessone says a lot of the trans atlantic traffic goes over Ireland.

    I have had really nice views of the Lakes of Killarney a number of times travelling from LHR-USA .

    That's why Shanwick exists ( in a virtual sense in that there is no actual place called Shanwick )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Birdman of Alca


    mickger wrote: »
    It really amazes me to see how many aircraft fly over where i live in Waterford. I have always wanted to know where these aircraft are travelling to and what kind of aircraft they are. Tia

    I, too, have been watching the planes flying over Waterford recently. The first thing that struck me was sometimes there is no vapour trail or con-trail (condensation trail) coming from them. You would hear a jet and look up and have to scan the sky until you spotted it because there was no trail to follow to it. I figured it was the cold weather and I looked it on Wikipedia and I was more or less right. When it's colder, the vapour freezes to ice chrystals or something, not visable from the ground. Yesterday, watching jets criss-crossing the sky, I had the same thought as Mickger, where are they coming from and where are they going? I did a search "Places of departure and destinations of airliners whose flight paths take them over Waterford, Ireland" Not much luck, but I found this page and joined so I could give my thoughts on the subject, even it's a few years since this thread first started. As one posted pointed out, most of the air traffic over Waterford is U.S. bound. Having flown that route 3 times, most recently in 2008, I know that route takes you over Northern Ireland, along the coasts of Iceland and Greenland, down the coast of Newfoundland, over New Brunswick and into the U.S.

    But I don't imagine all airlines take the same exact route, and the ones that pass over Waterford are probably emanating from countries further south than Ireland, this means most of southern Europe, Eastern Europe, the Middle and Far Easts, Africa, etc. Those from the Scandinavian countries, Russia, etc., most likely take a route north of Britain and Ireland, and so don't pass over Waterford. For instance, look at the map and you will see that Copenhagen lines in a direct straight line going west that runs just under Ireland, but I doubt (and I stand corrected if I'm wrong) that flights from there would take that route, then go up the west coast of Ireland towards Iceland. A more likely route would be up the coast of Norway, passing directly over the Faeroe Islands, (belonging to Denmark) and on to Iceland. That would mean that an emergency landing could be made on Danish territory if anything went wrong between Norway and Iceland. Air India flights from Canada did pass just south of the Waterford coast, the 747 brought down by a terrorist bomb in 1985, would have headed up the Bristol Channel towards London, and then on to New Delhi and Bombay. It is possible that some of the jets seen in Waterford City (I'm not sure if Mickger is in the city or county) might not be over land with the coast only 8 miles away. Well, there are my thoughts on the subject, for what they're worth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Birdman, no flights go "direct" to Copenhagen or to any airport for the duration of their flights, however Irelands proximity to the north atlantic tracks means you will see alot of aircraft, yes. We no longer have upper airways in Ireland any longer, but here is the map to give you an idea.....aircraft are routing to the most westerly fixes you see here.

    282ybyghuyo4jamdtnq9.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    mickger wrote: »
    I have always wanted to know where these aircraft are travelling to and what kind of aircraft they are. Is there anyway i can do that? Is there any live tracking facility that covers Irish skies? Tia

    Search function, this has been done to death:)

    http://www.radarvirtuel.com/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Birdman of Alca


    Hi, Neon-Circles,
    Thanks for your reply and very interesting map of flight paths.
    I know most flights are not direct and require connecting flights, I was just using Copenhagen as an example because of that straight line from there that takes you along the south coast Of Ireland. As you are in Limerick, do you have any connection to Shannon that explains your knowledge of such matters?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Steyr wrote: »
    Search function, this has been done to death:)

    http://www.radarvirtuel.com/

    Its 3 years old,

    Zombie thread walking.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Steyr wrote: »
    Search function, this has been done to death:)

    http://www.radarvirtuel.com/
    Delighted to get that information three years later I'm sure :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Hi, Neon-Circles,
    Thanks for your reply and very interesting map of flight paths.
    I know most flights are not direct and require connecting flights, I was just using Copenhagen as an example because of that straight line from there that takes you along the south coast Of Ireland. As you are in Limerick, do you have any connection to Shannon that explains your knowledge of such matters?


    Yes and no....



    Anyway, generally aircraft use a great circle routing across the ocean....therefore if you're flying Moscow to JFK you're not gonna use a NAT as its just adds to the length of the flight

    If you look at the fixes SLANY BANBA BAKUR and EVRIN on that chart, most stuff will come across that way from UK/Europe....some will go via BAGSO (near Dublin)....the rest over Belfast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭gman2k


    Noticeably quiet the last few days overhead for some reason!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,483 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    Steyr wrote: »
    Search function, this has been done to death:)

    http://www.radarvirtuel.com/

    As the original starter of this thread can't believe its been resurrected :) Just to let you know i used the search function 3 years ago and radarvirtuel didn't pop up :D Am loving radarvirtuel and flightradar24 though, exactly what i was looking for all those years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Shanair


    To get an idea which way NAT traffic is routing you can view the daily NAT Track structure which varies with weather patterns at
    Westbound
    http://www.jetplan.com/tda/westLatest.html
    Eastbound
    http://www.jetplan.com/tda/eastLatest.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,287 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Just noticed 2 Ryanairs seemingly on delivery flights from Boeing Field, Seattle..(EI-EKZ,EI-EMA).

    What route would they have taken to get here? (i.e. what would have been their last stop before going TATL)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Shanair


    And EI-ELY was another ahead of them. They route from Boeing Field direct to Dublin non-stop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭Tiriel


    Hoping someone may help me - I've been searching but can't seem to find a simple map of flight paths or just general zones for flights? Basically I'm doing a project on a proposed wind turbine and trying to see if my proposed site is within a flight path! (site is in Maynooth..) If anyone can help I'd really appreciate it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    Hey cork girl.

    The only risk i would say you have is from weston. what height is the turbine going to be. For flight paths/ areas your best bet would be to contact the irish avaition authority http://www.iaa.ie/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Shanair


    The IAA has to approve wind farm plans as these can also affect ground based radar installations as well as any affect they may have on flight paths. A wind farm at Maynooth would possibly affect Dublin Airport, Baldonnel and Weston


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭Tiriel


    Hi guys - thanks for replying. It's just a college project - so I really don't want to be bothering the IAA with my query! I was hoping that there was a general map which indicated areas which were listed as unsuitable etc.

    What my project is proposing is not a wind farm - just a single turbine of a height of 60m approx.

    If you know of any maps indicating flight paths etc. I'd really appreciate it - project is GIS based so I'm hoping to show buffers etc. if they are available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    If its only 60m high it would not affecting anything IFR related.

    For VFR it might, but for that there are no set routes around Maynooth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭Tiriel


    If its only 60m high it would not affecting anything IFR related.

    For VFR it might, but for that there are no set routes around Maynooth.

    I'm sorry but I don't know what the abbreviated IFR and VFR stand for! Thanks for your help :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    VFR= visual flight rules, basically flying by visual waypoints on the ground and tends to be more light aircraft.

    IFR= instrument flight rules, flying by instruments when you cant see the ground or in zero visability. tends to be more high level traffic and commercial traffic. IE. Airlines,frieght etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭loldog


    Someone put together a nice video recently showing aircraft gradually returning to the skies over Europe:

    http://vimeo.com/11205494

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    loldog wrote: »
    Someone put together a nice video recently showing aircraft gradually returning to the skies over Europe:

    http://vimeo.com/11205494

    .

    looks something like europe being attacked with lightning :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭SarahC11


    live flight tracker.
    http://www.flightradar24.com/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    Clear skies and a NAT track taking aircraft over Ireland is directly proportional to the number of chemtrail posts in the Conspiracy Theories.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 maria50


    HI just new here but v intersted in increased flights in skies over ireland recently. it looks like the aircraft are making clouds. On a clear day, it soon becomes cloudy as the aircraft increase and the patterns are unusual. It really looks like the vapor trails are deliberate and patterned to become 'coverage'. Anyone else think the same?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭pclancy


    Maria50 take a look in this forum for the answers you are looking for relating to coverage:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=576


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,157 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    maria50 wrote: »
    HI just new here but v intersted in increased flights in skies over ireland recently. it looks like the aircraft are making clouds. On a clear day, it soon becomes cloudy as the aircraft increase and the patterns are unusual. It really looks like the vapor trails are deliberate and patterned to become 'coverage'. Anyone else think the same?

    Conspiracy Theories forum is that way ->


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,009 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    maria50 wrote: »
    HI just new here but v intersted in increased flights in skies over ireland recently. it looks like the aircraft are making clouds. On a clear day, it soon becomes cloudy as the aircraft increase and the patterns are unusual. It really looks like the vapor trails are deliberate and patterned to become 'coverage'. Anyone else think the same?

    you would love area 51 , yeah they are making clouds to make Ireland green thats how we do it, did you not know that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭FWVT


    Let me stop you right there Maria. I wrote this article to put to bed the idiotic chemtrail theories. Science beats conspiracies every time.

    http://irishweatheronline.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/contrails-v-chemtrails-the-science-that-debunks-the-conspiracy/


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