Screaming Dog

LegacyUser

My really sound neighbours have recently got a young dog, which freaks out everytime they leave it in the back garden. He precedes to literally scream his head off until every morning when they finally let him back in the house. All is quiet for a few minutes when they stupidly decide to try to put him back out again and he inevitably starts screaming again.

The people who own the dog are muppets. A few months ago I caught the old man coming home pissed one night, who probably lost his key and then tried to take a short cut through my back garden. The next day the front window of their house was smashed so he must have tried to break in.

I have held off knocking on their door until yesterday as there is a good chance any arguement with him could turn physical. When I did nobody answered despite the fact I heard the wife telling the dog to stop screaming a few minutes earlier.

Anybody have any bright ideas?

In other closely related news my next door neighbours house alarm decided to go off yesterday for no apparent reason. Nearly 30 hours later and it's still going off. I tried ringing the phone number on the alarm but got an out of service message. Directory enquiries have no listing for the company and I even rang the local cop shop but was told there was nothing they could do.

Anybody have a solution that doesn't involve me getting a ladder and smashing the alarm?

Victor

Wish I was deaf wrote:

Anybody have a solution that doesn't involve me getting a ladder and smashing the alarm?

Go out for the day (its a nice sunny day) and on the way back, stop in a pharmacy and get some ear plugs.

Trinity

Wish I was deaf wrote:

My really sound neighbours have recently got a young dog, which freaks out everytime they leave it in the back garden. He precedes to literally scream his head off until every morning when they finally let him back in the house. All is quiet for a few minutes when they stupidly decide to try to put him back out again and he inevitably starts screaming again.

The people who own the dog are muppets. A few months ago I caught the old man coming home pissed one night, who probably lost his key and then tried to take a short cut through my back garden. The next day the front window of their house was smashed so he must have tried to break in.

I have held off knocking on their door until yesterday as there is a good chance any arguement with him could turn physical. When I did nobody answered despite the fact I heard the wife telling the dog to stop screaming a few minutes earlier.

Anybody have any bright ideas?

In other closely related news my next door neighbours house alarm decided to go off yesterday for no apparent reason. Nearly 30 hours later and it's still going off. I tried ringing the phone number on the alarm but got an out of service message. Directory enquiries have no listing for the company and I even rang the local cop shop but was told there was nothing they could do.

Anybody have a solution that doesn't involve me getting a ladder and smashing the alarm?

Well are they sound or are they muppets?

The dog needs to be trained or they will never be able to leave him out., this can take weeks of letting him scream and yelp. Its not their fault and its not unusual. At least they are taking him in and trying to keep him quiet which means they are probably aware of the disruption to you.

I suggest you get onto the council or failing that the community garda for your area. They can normally set up talks with nasty neighbours.

dame

Trinity1 wrote:

Well are they sound or are they muppets?

He was being sarcastic.


OP, there have been a few threads on boards before about dogs barking (possibly in the Accommodation & Property Forum?). Have a read through those and see if they can help.

I don't know what you can do right now about the alarm. Have the neighbours next door to that house got keys or phone numbers for any of the occupants? I'm assuming they haven't since it's been going off for so long, but if they had they could contact them, find out where to get a key, or get them to send a relative around to knock the alarm off. I'd write a letter to the occupants or approach them as soon as they get back and tell that if their alarm goes off again they must be contactable and have arrangements made for avoining this situation in the future.

As a side note; an alarm that rings continuously for 30 hours plus is not effective as a deterrant to burglars any longer. Anyone could break in and nobody would pay any heed because the alarm has been ringing for so long already. Suggest to your neighbours that they alter their system to at least stop ringing after a certain time period.

Trinity

dame wrote:

He was being sarcastic. QUOTE]

Sorry that went right over my head.

Dark Artist

Trinity1 wrote:

Sorry that went right over my head.

Mine too, to be honest.

King of Kings

Trinity1 wrote:

dame wrote:

He was being sarcastic. [\QUOTE]

Sorry that went right over my head.

me too.

OP - just bite the bullitt and confront them otherwise move house.
A workmate of mine ended up moving house cos his neighbours were assholes AND NOISE ETC..and went mental when he complaned.

LegacyUser

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Victor wrote:

Go out for the day (its a nice sunny day) and on the way back, stop in a pharmacy and get some ear plugs.

Good advice, but I had a hard time finding one that was open.

Thanks'

LegacyUser

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Trinity1 wrote:

The dog needs to be trained or they will never be able to leave him out., this can take weeks of letting him scream and yelp. Its not their fault and its not unusual.

There must be a right and a wrong way of going about this though and if anything the dog is getting worse not better. I saw the wife today carrying the dog around like a baby even though it's not that small so the dog is just screaming like a baby would as thats the way its being treated.

At least they are taking him in and trying to keep him quiet which means they are probably aware of the disruption to you.

If you knew them you would probably agree that the reason for this is to give themselves a break from the screaming.

I suggest you get onto the council or failing that the community garda for your area. They can normally set up talks with nasty neighbours.

I don't think this is worth the hassle as it could all be sorted if they treated the dog like a dog.

Thanks for your advice.'

LegacyUser

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dame wrote:

He was being sarcastic.

Thanks

I don't know what you can do right now about the alarm. Have the neighbours next door to that house got keys or phone numbers for any of the occupants? I'm assuming they haven't since it's been going off for so long, but if they had they could contact them, find out where to get a key, or get them to send a relative around to knock the alarm off. I'd write a letter to the occupants or approach them as soon as they get back and tell that if their alarm goes off again they must be contactable and have arrangements made for avoining this situation in the future.

The occupants are foreigners and the landlord is abroad so there is nobody to contact. When they come back I will tell them their alarm is useless and should be disconnected.

As a side note; an alarm that rings continuously for 30 hours plus is not effective as a deterrant to burglars any longer. Anyone could break in and nobody would pay any heed because the alarm has been ringing for so long already. Suggest to your neighbours that they alter their system to at least stop ringing after a certain time period.

I was thinking the same thing but that would need a clever burglar to take advantage and they are probably few and far between.

The alarm is still ringing by the way and the best idea I can think of is trying to find a window cleaner who is a part-time electrician.'

LegacyUser

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King of Kings wrote:

OP - just bite the bullitt and confront them otherwise move house.A workmate of mine ended up moving house cos his neighbours were assholes AND NOISE ETC..and went mental when he complaned.

You say confront them and then tell me a story about somebody in a similar position who did as you say with the result being he moved house.

How is that good advice?'

astrofool

At the very least, start noting down the date and times of the barking, with duration if possible as well. If it goes any further it'll make the case easier.

King of Kings

Wish I was deaf wrote:

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You say confront them and then tell me a story about somebody in a similar position who did as you say with the result being he moved house.

How is that good advice?'

ok.....then....

He confronted them - rather than continue live in misery - he moved house eventually cos he said life was too short and his mortgage too high to live beside scum much longer.

My advice was to bring the issue to a head rather than live in the current unpleasantness.

Although if you are happier to cower in your house and post anonymously on an internet forum rather than stand up for yourself then by all means go ahead.

For tha one story I have a few more that worked out fine for example:
My neighbour used to have parties where this guests would be all over the road and in his backgarden at all hours until I had a word with him that i was none too pleased. he apologiesed and the parties have died down.

sportswear

i bet i know who this is. if i were you id find a way to poison the dog.

Trinity

sportswear wrote:

i bet i know who this is. if i were you id find a way to poison the dog.

Because he has irresponsible owners that are 'raising' him wrong?

Dogs bark, growl, howl. Always will. Including the next one they get if anything happens this one. And if they found out who poisoned the dog you think they would let it go and suddenly become the perfect neighbours?

There would prob be murder, if the OP thinks asking them to keep the dog quiet will cause a row what do you think that poisoning their dog would make them do.

event

sportswear wrote:

i bet i know who this is. if i were you id find a way to poison the dog.

jesus

if they had a baby that cried, would you do the same?

Bob the Builder

As for the alarm, you could ring the fire brigade or the gardaí or both. The fire vrigade would turn off the alarm and subsequently bill the people responsible for such a false alert.

As for the dog, my heart goes out to you, but you might as well just tell them to stop...no other choice, and you do have your rights...

...Do other neighbours get as annoyed by the sound as you do?

The_Conductor

How about ringing the ISPCA and reporting them for cruelty to the dog?

Sam Vimes

Wish I was deaf wrote:

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I was thinking the same thing but that would need a clever burglar to take advantage and they are probably few and far between.

break in yourself and rob their stuff. and if the dog is in there, release him in the mountains.

but seriously, there's probably not much you can do about it except get ear plugs tbh. or throw a chew toy over the wall and hope he chews that instead of barking

Sam Vimes

smccarrick wrote:

How about ringing the ISPCA and reporting them for cruelty to the dog?

they're not really being cruel though. the dog just doesn't like being in the back garden. it just needs training

the_syco

sportswear wrote:

i bet i know who this is. if i were you id find a way to poison the dog.

Word of advice: if someone poisoned my dog, and I found out who they were, I'd show them what a sledge-hammer looks like up close.

In other words: bad idea.

SarahSassy

Are there other neighbours who are also annoyed about it? You could check around and a group of you approach the owners to complain...

dermot_sheehan

Serve a notice on them pursuant to the control of dogs act
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/ZZSI59Y1987.html
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/ZZA32Y1986S32.html

and then file a complaint with the district court under section 25 of the control of dogs act

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/ZZA32Y1986S25.html

Victor

sportswear wrote:

i bet i know who this is. if i were you id find a way to poison the dog.

Commander Vimes wrote:

break in yourself and rob their stuff. and if the dog is in there, release him in the mountains.

Both banned.

rs

gabhain7 wrote:

Serve a notice on them pursuant to the control of dogs act
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/ZZSI59Y1987.html
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/ZZA32Y1986S32.html

and then file a complaint with the district court under section 25 of the control of dogs act

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/ZZA32Y1986S25.html

I've done this. There a a few things to note that are not made too clear on the web docs.

1. You are supposed to raise the problem with the neighbor first. You can do this in person or via a letter, but save a copy of the letter if you do have to go to court.

2. You need the name of the neighbour. This is not always easy to get, particularly from someone in rented accommodation. I did a land registry search for my neighbour, but he owned his house. You can also lookup Thoms Dublin street directory at you local library. Once again, this is typically only useful for finding owner/occupiers.

3. You have to go to the local district court office and fill out the summons (you need their name for this, because the summons has to have a name on it). In my case, we got a court appointment within a week, so it was pretty quick.

4. YOU have to hand deliver the summons to the neighbor.

5. When going to court, it's best to have some evidence. A tape recording of video footage is ideal.

In my case, once we got to the court, I approached the neighbour and we sorted it out. He gave me his mobile number and said to call or text if ever there was noise and he would sort it out.

Once we were called up in front of the judge, we just said we had found a solution and all was well. Never had a problem with the dog after that.

Apparently, the judges these days typically are very good about stuff like this. They will issue a court order against the dog owner. If this does not work, you will have to bring them to court again. The second time around the judge will start issuing fines or possibly even get the dog confiscated by the local dog warden.

Anti

If it were me in your situation i would take shotgun to the alarm box. But its best you dont do that. So i would leave a little letter in the letterbox saying " your alarm was going off all weekend, and i have not been able to sleep a wink... Thanks alot. "

And about the dog, ring your local vets, they might be able to put you in touch with someone that can help, as its not very fair for the dog to be left out all night barking its head off.


Now the fun starts, and where my vendictive side comes out. The next weeken you have free. Throw a massive house party on friday night, and one on saturday night, and a nice big bbq on sunday afternoon. Cause as much noise as possible, flick cigerette butts in the front garden. Let that one friend of yours that always gets siock at a party throw up all over their car. Invite your neighbours form the other side though, then they cant complain if they were at this shindig.*


* probably best you ignore that paragraph.

Anti

rs wrote:

I've done this. There a a few things to note that are not made too clear on the web docs.

1. You are supposed to raise the problem with the neighbor first. You can do this in person or via a letter, but save a copy of the letter if you do have to go to court.

2. You need the name of the neighbour. This is not always easy to get, particularly from someone in rented accommodation. I did a land registry search for my neighbour, but he owned his house. You can also lookup Thoms Dublin street directory at you local library. Once again, this is typically only useful for finding owner/occupiers.

3. You have to go to the local district court office and fill out the summons (you need their name for this, because the summons has to have a name on it). In my case, we got a court appointment within a week, so it was pretty quick.

4. YOU have to hand deliver the summons to the neighbor.

5. When going to court, it's best to have some evidence. A tape recording of video footage is ideal.

In my case, once we got to the court, I approached the neighbour and we sorted it out. He gave me his mobile number and said to call or text if ever there was noise and he would sort it out.

Once we were called up in front of the judge, we just said we had found a solution and all was well. Never had a problem with the dog after that.

Apparently, the judges these days typically are very good about stuff like this. They will issue a court order against the dog owner. If this does not work, you will have to bring them to court again. The second time around the judge will start issuing fines or possibly even get the dog confiscated by the local dog warden.

Sorry for the double post, but just noticed the end part of your post. Having the dog consifcated is not the best solution to the problem, as if the dog cannot be re-homed in a certain period of time time it will be put down if it cant be re-homed.

MarkR

I thought that there was little you could do if a dog was barking during the day, that it was only if they were disturbing people after 11 pm then action could be taken?

Jules

please please dont listen to the foolish replies some have given on here your best bet would be the pets/animals forum under rec. lots of good advice given there about dogs and barking.

To be honest there is nothing you can do yourself, maybe a polite note left under the door with some numbers of trainers attatched would help plus no face to face interaction with the owners. People have said training can take hours but that is not correct. Results can be seen in a matter of hours if the time is put in with the pet.

You can get in touch with the garda for kind of disturbing the peace kinda thing, but i think as long as its not after 8pm or something nothing can be done offically, im unsure of this. But even ring your local station and explain the suitation. Either that or ring the DSPCA 01 493 5502 / 04 and ask for advice

hope things work out for ya.

Pythia

Maybe you could ring you local county councillor and see if there's anything htey could do for you?

akw_old

sportswear wrote:

i bet i know who this is. if i were you id find a way to poison the dog.

idiot.

listen the dog needs to be trained and i'm afraid this may take a while. if its a pup, its probably just a bit scared and will get used to it.
i hope they have a kennell for it.

as for the alarm, the cops should have been able to do something about it. not much point in having an alarm, if when it goes off the cops ignore it.

if you want to complain to the gards or local concil i suggest you make a complaint personally (not in a group) to your neighbours first, this show you tried to sort the situation yourself first, and that you have a pair.

fits

Go to animals and pet issues forum. There have been lots of threads about this recently.

Anyone who thinks that leaving a pup out on its own in the back garden is 'training' needs their head examined. The poor dog... Animals dont make these noises just for fun

StormWarrior

I had a similar problem. I didn't dare approach the owners as they were horrible big tough blokes. So I did 2 things:

Report them to environmental health for the noise disturbance

Call the RSPCA and told them will all the wailing and crying the dog did I was worried it was being abused.

When these 2 people came knocking, it worried the owners enough to make them shut thier blasted dog up.