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where are they going

  • 06-04-2007 3:17pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭


    I have been watching lost from day one, never missed an episode, but i would like to know where in god blazes are they heading with this program. The submarine idea was bad and there are one or two things in lost now that are starting to bug me.

    I heard someone the other day referring to lost as s--- when they saw a bit of it the other day ( this person never watched it from day one ) and i could not defend lost, i did not even try, whereas last year i was defending it.

    I have to keep watching it now, i cant leave it.

    Oh, that ad clip of Jack in a tv studio saying " its the best program on tv now" ----bull i say to that, last year i would not have said bull. I guess he has to say it as he wants to a be a major star.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    What was wrong with the submarine?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭Killaqueen!!!


    Nobody is forcing you to watch it ffs....

    The clip of Matthew Fox saying that it's the best show on television isn't far from the truth. I watch Lost, Desperate Housewives, Heroes, Ugly Betty, CSI etc. and Lost is my favourite. The fact that you are still watching it despite your dislike with where the show is going just shows the pull factor that the programme has.

    I agree that the poorest episodes of Lost have been in season 3 but, bar 'Expose' (and thats just IMO), the last few episodes have been excellent. And I would have thought that people like you who aren't enjoying Lost this season would have changed their minds after those episodes.

    Oh well..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Nick_oliveri


    I agree that the poorest episodes of Lost have been in season 3

    Nah, Season 2. Definatly. I can watch Lost now, unlike some of season 2 which was unbearable. Namely Michelle Rodriguez. STFU Michelle!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭DS


    Yea Lost was at its worst during season 2. It was during season 2 that the pace really dropped and everyone realised we were going to be drip fed the plot from then on. Having come to terms with that though season 3 has been generally very good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭qwertplaywert


    where are they going.....i believe they hope , home :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭upmeath


    Patience Jack, patience...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    If you don't want to watch, then don't. No one is making you watch. Patience and it will all br reveled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭upmeath


    logik wrote:
    If you don't want to watch, then don't.

    Easier said than done, anybody who's watched serials that went on for longer than they should have (ahem... X-Files) will know that once sucked in, no matter how much patience you lose watching the show, you can't get out of it, it'd be like wasting a night every week for 3 years, you're not going to quit Lost now if you've been watching since day one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    upmeath wrote:
    Easier said than done, anybody who's watched serials that went on for longer than they should have (ahem... X-Files) will know that once sucked in, no matter how much patience you lose watching the show, you can't get out of it, it'd be like wasting a night every week for 3 years, you're not going to quit Lost now if you've been watching since day one.

    I understand what you mean mate. If that is the case then, people should not moan and complain about it then. But that is not going to happen either :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭man1


    Nobody is forcing you to watch it ffs....

    The clip of Matthew Fox saying that it's the best show on television isn't far from the truth. I watch Lost, Desperate Housewives, Heroes, Ugly Betty, CSI etc. and Lost is my favourite...

    ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    I'd actually like to repeat the original question of the thread, but take a different angle in asking it.

    Right, in season 1, it all built up to opening the hatch and in season 2, it all built up to what happens when the button isn't pushed. What exactly is season 3 building up to?

    Like, the hatch idea was introduced about half way through in "All the Best...", the button not being pushed was introduced as early as the third episode of s2. There's been bugger all to suggest what the grand finale'll be this season, and we're 2/3 of the way through now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    I'd actually like to repeat the original question of the thread, but take a different angle in asking it.

    Right, in season 1, it all built up to opening the hatch and in season 2, it all built up to what happens when the button isn't pushed. What exactly is season 3 building up to?

    Like, the hatch idea was introduced about half way through in "All the Best...", the button not being pushed was introduced as early as the third episode of s2. There's been bugger all to suggest what the grand finale'll be this season, and we're 2/3 of the way through now...

    Season 3 = telling us what the Island is and why there has been people living on it and working on it for many years. Also to explain what smokey is :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    The writers have said season 3 is all about the Others, so the larger questions of who they are and why they are on the island should be revealed by the end of this season. Also their connection to Dharma, smokey and the island itself should become clearer.

    Hopefully :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    Yes! It Worked!! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    logik wrote:
    Season 3 = telling us what the Island is and why there has been people living on it and working on it for many years. Also to explain what smokey is :)
    Grand. But season 2 was kinda all about the hatches, so they had a sequence of events through the series that eventually led to the season finale. I don't see the same happening in s3 as one minute we see Locke meeting daddy, the next we see Nikki and Paulo buried alive and the next we see Kate and Juliette scrapping. There's no real consistency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Grand. But season 2 was kinda all about the hatches, so they had a sequence of events through the series that eventually led to the season finale. I don't see the same happening in s3 as one minute we see Locke meeting daddy, the next we see Nikki and Paulo buried alive and the next we see Kate and Juliette scrapping. There's no real consistency.

    Yeah good point mate, where as in Season 2 they were following some sort of guide line, it seems in Season 3 that each ep is something new and is not really following a main theme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    I think the Season 3 cliffhanger will involve Penny Widmore and her gang showing up on the island. We haven't seen anything of her this season apart from Dessie's flashback so I think she's being kept for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    agamemnon wrote:
    I think the Season 3 cliffhanger will involve Penny Widmore and her gang showing up on the island. We haven't seen anything of her this season apart from Dessie's flashback so I think she's being kept for that.

    Oh i wonder how Desmond would react.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    agamemnon wrote:
    I think the Season 3 cliffhanger will involve Penny Widmore and her gang showing up on the island. We haven't seen anything of her this season apart from Dessie's flashback so I think she's being kept for that.

    Hmm, double post, sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    agamemnon wrote:
    I think the Season 3 cliffhanger will involve Penny Widmore and her gang showing up on the island. We haven't seen anything of her this season apart from Dessie's flashback so I think she's being kept for that.

    WTF, triple post, sorry, boards froze and it posted 3 times.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Lost has great production values, good cast, savage sets, good special effects etc etc but the plot development is complete and utter sh1te

    Excellent concept i.e. there's a plane crash, strangers on island, weird things happen, another group on island. All good yet how do they make it so slow moving and frustrating. Very little actually happens on the island each episode, while i do like the flash backs for character development it takes hugely from the progress made in the main plot lines.

    I think Lost has cornered itself, the flashbacks prevent alot of progress on the island but the flashbacks are entertaining. They are a little shallow but I'm sure someday someone will realise they know each other through previous encounters and give it much more depth.

    my 2 cents


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    logik wrote:
    Oh i wonder how Desmond would react.

    He'll run off to have a shave and brush his teeth before dragging Penny into the bushes for some reunion lovin'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    agamemnon wrote:
    He'll run off to have a shave and brush his teeth before dragging Penny into the bushes for some reunion lovin'.

    LMAO, after been stuck there for as long as he has, i doubt he would bother with the shave or the teeth. He would just go buck mad from the word go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭Killaqueen!!!


    I don't see why every single episode in a series has to have a certain theme. IMO that would be pretty boring. there has to be more storylines than just one in any given series to keep viewers interested.

    But if we're going by that than indeed

    season 1 would be the hatch
    season 2 would be the button
    season 3 would be the others (plus smokey plus other hatches)

    What's the problem? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    I don't see why every single episode in a series has to have a certain theme. IMO that would be pretty boring. there has to be more storylines than just one in any given series to keep viewers interested.

    But if we're going by that than indeed

    season 1 would be the hatch
    season 2 would be the button
    season 3 would be the others (plus smokey plus other hatches)

    What's the problem? :)

    I think what we are trying to say is that we have about 7-8 eps left in season 3 and the writers have so so much left to explain still. We are just saying it would be nice if they were sticking to some sort of theme.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    Granted, you can get away with not having a theme in certain shows. CSI springs to mind, for example. But shows like Lost and 24 need some shape of a theme throughout the series. Lost is at another disadvantage in that it can't go off in a completely different tangent like 24 does at the start of every season either.

    Lost needs to get something in the next couple of episodes that'll give an idea as to what's going to be uncovered in the finale. Otherwise, the finale's gonna be pretty useless.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    wow

    just remembering there how excited I was about the hatch at the end of season 1.. coming up to , and after.

    kind of sad to think I've lost that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    Mordeth wrote:
    wow

    just remembering there how excited I was about the hatch at the end of season 1.. coming up to , and after.

    kind of sad to think I've lost that.
    Exactly. Unless you look at the spoilers, you haven't a clue what to look forward to or be able to might any rational predictions as to what's gonna happen next. Like, as soon as Locke dropped Boone's torch hitting the hatch, you wondered WTF was going on knowing that it'd probably be resolved in the finale. With this season, there's no idea what the hell they're going to do next...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    This season is obviously building up to revealing who the Others are. And unlike last season which focused on hatches and buttons as the big mysteries, I feel this year is more about the people, these "others" and the mystery of their motivations. As such I think this series has remained very true to the spirit of Lost like we saw in the early first season.

    I love the way the writers are bit by bit humanizing these figures who we previously viewed as villains. My favourite scene so far this season was the moment between Ben and Sawyer at the end of 3x04 when Ben revealed they were on another island. Great acting from Michael Emerson. I hate it when I hear people go on about Ben being so evil, I just see so many layers to his character. And I'm certain by the finale we'll discover Ben is actually a hero.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    The last two episodes are meant to be Ben flashbacks. I wouldn't bet against your theory in that case.

    I wouldn't say Ben's evil, just extremely manipulative. He's by far the best character in the show imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    This season is obviously building up to revealing who the Others are. And unlike last season which focused on hatches and buttons as the big mysteries, I feel this year is more about the people, these "others" and the mystery of their motivations. As such I think this series has remained very true to the spirit of Lost like we saw in the early first season.

    I love the way the writers are bit by bit humanizing these figures who we previously viewed as villains. My favourite scene so far this season was the moment between Ben and Sawyer at the end of 3x04 when Ben revealed they were on another island. Great acting from Michael Emerson. I hate it when I hear people go on about Ben being so evil, I just see so many layers to his character. And I'm certain by the finale we'll discover Ben is actually a hero.

    Yeah would love this also. Ben is a great character and as many have said before, he brings so many different views to the show. Would be nice to see the Island from his point of view as he was born there and not just how the losties see it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭jackdaw


    DS wrote:
    Yea Lost was at its worst during season 2. It was during season 2 that the pace really dropped and everyone realised we were going to be drip fed the plot from then on. Having come to terms with that though season 3 has been generally very good.

    Really ??
    you think that .. jeez I honestly think S2 was the best, especially from ep 10 - the finale, (except for 'Dave' -- which was the worst ep ever !!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    jackdaw wrote:
    Really ??
    you think that .. jeez I honestly think S2 was the best, especially from ep 10 - the finale, (except for 'Dave' -- which was the worst ep ever !!)

    Yeah,

    Hurley’s imaginary friend, that was a poor ep but still funny in parts. As I said before, I think Season 3 is on par with Season 2.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭Killaqueen!!!


    I see what your all saying now about where season 3 is going but it's pretty obvious it's all about the Others so I presume there's going to be a llot more on them by the end of the series.

    When you think about it, season 1 was very slow moving. They hadn't even opened ONE hatch by the end of season 1 and how long were they supposed to have been on the island? I loved season 1 - it was probably the best series, but you can't have the best of both worlds. People say they want answers yet now that things are getting a bit clearer in season 3 people are still complaining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    jackdaw wrote:
    (except for 'Dave' -- which was the worst ep ever !!)

    Jesus that episode freaked the sh!t out of me, it's the only one I can't watch a second time. Also because it was a bit crap. But mostly the freaked out thing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    SumGuy wrote:
    Jesus that episode freaked the sh!t out of me, it's the only one I can't watch a second time. Also because it was a bit crap. But mostly the freaked out thing

    How did it freak you out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    logik wrote:
    How did it freak you out?
    That kind of "all in your head" stuff just freaks me out.
    Like in A Beautiful Mind. Although that was a good film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    SumGuy wrote:
    That kind of "all in your head" stuff just freaks me out.
    Like in A Beautiful Mind. Although that was a good film.

    Ah ok, understood.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    its starting to annoy me how they still havent even mentioned the giant LOTR style statue from the series 2 finale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    its starting to annoy me how they still havent even mentioned the giant LOTR style statue from the series 2 finale.

    The big foot with four toes?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    And how has Sawyer not yet referred to Charlie as a Hobbit??!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    logik wrote:
    The big foot with four toes?
    Yes I'm dying to find out what the hell it is :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Yes I'm dying to find out what the hell it is :D

    It's a monument, to remember the ancient giants that used to walk the island :)

    But seriously, i am kinda guessing that the writers will forget to ever include that again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭nick23


    Yeah it seems like they just threw loads of random crap in just to confuse us with no intention of explaining any of it!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    Hmm. Seems as though my point is no longer valid. Let the countdown to the finale begin!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 SatelliteTVTalk


    Yes I'm dying to find out what the hell it is :D

    Oh man, that blooming foot... it's really baking my noodle! Surely it's relevant...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    yeah i meant the foot, its gotta have something to do with the Islands past IMO, as in what was originally on the island and what may have drawn dharma/ the others/ people from the mainland to the island initially


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Doug McClure has got to show up at some stage surely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    yeah i meant the foot, its gotta have something to do with the Islands past IMO, as in what was originally on the island and what may have drawn dharma/ the others/ people from the mainland to the island initially

    Agreed, but i really hope that the writers don't forget about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,898 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    as far as i can remember, little things like that always turn back up,
    remember the station with the cameras, and they pass notes in the tube, later you notice a lostie (kate I think) walking past a pile of tubes, they put them back in sooner or later


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