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US: 2X22 - "Sona" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

  • 03-04-2007 2:57am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭


    - WARNING: THIS THREAD WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN SONA -

    Episode Title: "Sona"
    Airdate: April 2th 2007

    TV.com Summary:
    Michael tries to save his brother and himself from the unstoppable Mahone. Kellerman's testimony at Sarah's trial proves different from what was expected, could this be the end for Sarah? Sucre puts everything on the line to save his Maricruz. Just like old times, T-Bag and Bellick are at it again but this time there will be a winner.

    Next Episode: 3x01 - ???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    just thought i'd give my opinion in a separate post rather than lump it in with the first one.

    what a season finale.

    kim shot presume not dead
    mahone in jail
    mike in jail
    sucré screwed.
    linc a free man.
    sarah free too.

    loved some of the filming in this especially the flashbacks and the general scenery of panama.

    michael walking into the light at the end, does it mean the end for michael?

    could of sworn the guy on the floor that michael looked at was bellick.

    i'd also like to see how mahone is going to survive being in that prison let alone being in the same one as michael.

    that baldy guy, saying "we want michael to break out again" wtf are they doing? what with all the white jump suits and surgical masks. they prepping to clone michael so that they could put all the clones into all the prisons to test their escapability properties?

    after seeing the flashback again of linc going up to the car with dead steadman in it, he looks awfully like the baldy guy, could montana stedman be a decoy? to allow the real steadman to go about his job freely.

    does anyone know when it will return? a rough date even?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,373 ✭✭✭Irishpimpdude


    Cremo wrote:
    just thought i'd give my opinion in a separate post rather than lump it in with the first one.

    what a season finale.

    kim shot presume not dead
    mahone in jail
    mike in jail
    sucré screwed.
    linc a free man.
    sarah free too.

    loved some of the filming in this especially the flashbacks and the general scenery of panama.

    michael walking into the light at the end, does it mean the end for michael?

    could of sworn the guy on the floor that michael looked at was bellick.

    i'd also like to see how mahone is going to survive being in that prison let alone being in the same one as michael.

    that baldy guy, saying "we want michael to break out again" wtf are they doing? what with all the white jump suits and surgical masks. they prepping to clone michael so that they could put all the clones into all the prisons to test their escapability properties?

    after seeing the flashback again of linc going up to the car with dead steadman in it, he looks awfully like the baldy guy, could montana stedman be a decoy? to allow the real steadman to go about his job freely.

    does anyone know when it will return? a rough date even?
    I presume stedman was a decoy the way he was in love with his own sister and all that crap... it was quite a good episode, as always i was pissed off when it ended argh have to wait a while now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,195 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Avoiding reading the actual thread as i haven't seen the episode yet but cheers Cremo for putting it up.

    Completely forgot about it until this morning!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 804 ✭✭✭TimTim


    "Its in his blood"

    I'm gonna go right ahead and assume Micheal is genetically modified research project for the US Army.

    And I wonder who was following Sarah when she left the police station.

    And yeah that did look like Bellick on the floor in a mess in the prison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭deman


    Cremo wrote:

    could of sworn the guy on the floor that michael looked at was bellick.

    Good eyes Cremo. Didn't notice it at first but had a second look at it. It looks a lot like him yeah.

    bellick.jpg

    And he almost looked like he was trying to say something to Michael.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    Reading his lips you could see Bellick saying "Ouch Michael, I just got buggered by 15 Panamese brick sh!thouses!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    10/10 , i felt a surge of joy when kim got shot! he is dead because the cops where like "we dont take murder lightly on panama soil" glad to see kellerman did the right thing. can only assume sucré will die there. I did not like the ending one bit,answers most questions except what happens to michael:( cant wait till next season!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 612 ✭✭✭billstraighten


    season 3 starts 29th August 2007

    need i say more?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    only 4 months away¿ good if its true, but shame on youif it isnt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭RadioGaGa


    4 months would be a bit quick seeing as season 3 was confirmed only a few week(s) ago. I can't wait though


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭steviec


    Wow. I don't know what to think.

    I was expecting some closure, didn't realise there was a third Season coming. It just seemed like everything was heading towards a final resolution. And now this, Michael right back where he started.

    Not sure if that's a good thing or not. I dunno, I was just all set to see a happy ending! I guess more Prison Break next year can't be a bad thing. Will be interesting with Michael sharing the prison with Mahone and Bellick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭BopNiblets


    Good episode, I was kind of expecting them all to be thrown in a Panama jail, but leaving some people on the outside was probably a good idea, the whole role reversal angle, it's Lincs turn now!

    Huh, they released Sara after her "statement", did she change her mind and give Michael up so they released her?
    And who was that dude in the black coat following her? omg!

    Michael should have tried to explain his way out, the big silly bear.

    OMG! We never saw Kellerman actually die! (but he's probably dead anyway...)

    So now Michael, Mahone, Bellick (of course it was him) and most likely T-Bag, will be in a nasty looking prison for season 3, nice. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    that's true we never did see kellerman die, but we all remember the last time we didn't see someone die and all were like "mahone's dead!!!!111one", this could turn out the same but i doubt it considering the amount of bullets shot into the back of the truck.

    29th of august huh? i don't know if i can wait that long, i need something to fill the gap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 612 ✭✭✭billstraighten


    ive started watching OZ to now fill the gap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭Redisle


    Good episode but i get the impression that the writers only threw in all that stuff about sona as an afterthought,they were only making up new stories to bring the show into its third season, i honestly would have preferred the show to end at season 2, i cant see any other good storylines come out of it, that whole sona thing is starting to look a whole lot like some other things,(looks like experiments on people and labs!!?(lost,resident evil anyone?))
    The show has been excellent up to now, best ive seen probably but i can see the quality degrading badly in the third season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Holy sh*t dude, that was something else altogether. I was wondering who the bitch on the floor was, didn't recognise him and still not sure but I guess it could be. That was awfully fast if it is.

    Good setup for next season but I wonder if it's stretching the story a bit too much. Hopefully not. I'm thinking that silent baldy (now a General) dude has someone in that prison that they need out and Michael could be a way for them to get him out, but what all the white suits and masks were about is anyone's guess. There's obviously something very important about Sona that we're not being told yet.

    Will Michael work with Mahone, Bellick and T-Bag to get free again? I can't see him wanting to do that, but then he's not going to have too many friends, or even familiar faces, in there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭big_moe


    i wonder whats going on in sona... the bald general guy asked kim in a previous episode "what do u know about sona" and kin said "only what i've been authorised too" so something dodgy is goin on in there...

    and i dont believe kellerman is dead until i see it! like when the lads opened up the back door he goes you took your time (or whatever...) ten they shot the guard i reckon...

    cant wait for season 3 now! august 29th... jaysus...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭cmoney


    wow!!!!

    10/10 from me....

    season 3 can go in so many directions now :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pub_ZkG4Sq0

    the next 20 feet.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭kaisersose77


    I read the rumours of the season 3 storyline last week and was thinking it was gonna be terrible but after seeing the end of this episode, I can't wait! Dont think they could have a better ending for Michael going to prison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭quigo


    Im slightly worried that the show may slip into the lost category... so much for 90% of the conspiracy being resolved :rolleyes:

    Much as I'd like to see Kellerman back :D I do think he is dead.

    I do also think Kim is dead, his role in the show is over now that General is all chatty.

    I was surprised that Sucre wasn't featured... I imagined he'd end up happy ever after.

    I really don't know where the show is going, I know for sure come next August I'll be watching with interest.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    I don't know what to think. Is this place an actual prison? I have my doubts and they only needed one person to go in, hence Mr Kim trying to shoot Linc at the boat. I think Kim is dead btw. I really have no idea what to expect for season three but I am looking forward to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭RobertFoster


    quigo wrote:
    I was surprised that Sucre wasn't featured... I imagined he'd end up happy ever after.
    He'll be the man on the outside that'll some how manage to get in contact with the inmates and help them out. He'll get in contact soon enough, do a small favor at first to get Bellick to give up the location of Maricruz. Once she's safe (she has only 3 weeks remember, and that was 2 episodes ago - if 1 episode is 1 week then 3x01 is when she carks it...), Sucre will come back to help Michael out of pure loyalty. He might also find the rucksack with all the cash, though you never know.

    Either that, or something totally different will happen ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭lukin


    I was almost violently ill when I saw Mr. Kim kick the five mill into the river like that! I spose that's the last we'll ever see of it.
    That "Sona" place is definitley not a proper prison, it's some kind of US military research facility as someone already said; you could tell when the guard said to Michael at the gate "this is as far as we go".
    Sounds like they are plagiarising Lost! (Dharma initative anyone?)
    Baldy bloke with the notes is a general and he wants Michael to escape,hmm, sounds a bit ridiculous.
    I'm willing to bet Kellerman is still alive, they just showed the guns being fired, they didn't show who got shot. The driver was in on it; he stopped the van, Kellerman was expecting the guys with the uzi's as he said "you took your time", they shot the guard, not Kellerman.
    T-Bag survives for season 3 as do Mahone and Bellick, all locked up together in the same prison. Season 3 will be about them working together to escape from that hell hole. It doesn't look nearly as secure as Fox River so it should be a walk in the park for Michael.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    What next for Sara and Linc?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    kim is dead, the guards who were outside the hut shouted in we dont take kindly to murderhere on panamanese soil


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    but the guards also ran after michael, linc and sara. maybe they are presuming that kim is dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,195 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    I, for one, thought the closing moments of the episode were absolutely superbly done with Michael walking through the halls of a dirty, darkened hallway full of scumbag characters. And Bellick beaten half to death by a sort of "bulky steroid-ridden Tweener lookalike". This dark and very cold atmosphere actually gave me chills.

    And this exact atmosphere sort of confirms what the writers have said will come in season 3.. not to spoil anything specific but they've promised a much more grittier and violent season 3.

    With regards to season 2, it was a damn enjoyable second season. And kicked the last couple of season of 24's arse in my opinion... am torn on whether to say whether it was better than season 2 of 'Lost' (as i'm a big softie for
    The Hatch
    in Lost's 2nd season).

    The follow-up season was never gonna be easy to do especially with such a radical departure from the prison setting of season 1. Yes, it was daft in parts and full of little quibbles and goofs but it was still the first on my list to watch for a Tuesday night and i really enjoyed it as a whole.

    I think we got closure on the first two seasons pretty much with regards to Lincoln / Steadman. Some loose-ends alright: T-Bag, Bellick, Sucre & Maricruz (etc) but needed to keep the viewer tuning in to see the characters fates fir season 3. But the overall story-arc (i.e Lincoln on death-row for a murder he didn't commit) is now done-and-dusted.

    As i've said, those final creepy moments of Michael walking down the hallway and into the light will keep me awaiting it's return in August!

    A definite 10 / 10 (episode gets a 9 but some of the stunning direction and visuals in it pushed it to a 10).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    Great last episode.

    I had deliberately stayed away from rumour chat rooms for the last few weeks, cause I knew that the idea of a third season was being nosed around, and I wanted to go into the last episode not knowing if was going to be the very last or not.

    IMO: -Kellerman is alive, it's just a question of which side he'll be working for in the next series. (He could have been taken by the company, or he could have set up the ambush himself - I'm sure he still has connections after all.)

    -Michael, Mahone, T-Bag and Bellick will obviously work to escape, but I think that they could be out within a week. Bellick is the only person who knows where Marie-Cruz is and she only has a weeks worth of food and water left. (Either that or Michael will get the info off of Bellick in return for promising to free him.)

    -I don't think that Linc will have much to do with the freeing of Michael. I get the impression that his time will be taken up with whomever was following Sarah.

    - I doubt that the bald General guy has anything to do with Steadman. Don't forget he all but ordered Pres Rennolds death in the first series!

    - Kim is dead (the bullet hit him in a fairly vital area!), and I don't think that Franklin will feature in the third series.

    Just my opinions, but I for one can't wait for the next series.
    Great last episode, much better than the last episode of the first series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Old_-_School


    The person who put up the thread "Confirmed: Season 3 of Prison Break!" completely ruined this episode for me. How could anyone be so irresponsible? It meant I knew that it wouldn't end in this episode which in turn meant it was almost certain that either Linc or Michael would end up back in prison. If they had put up the thread with the title "Will there be a Season 3?" and then answered it inside in the thread it'd have been a much better idea. Putting spoilers in thread titles with no warning is very careless. After every episode I watch, I come into this board and read about it. I never watch any promos or read discussions about any future episodes - I prefer not to even know the next episode's title if I can help it, but feel very let down that such a blatant spoiler was allowed where it was impossible not to see it. If there's even a whiff of a mention of downloading episodes people get banned but ruin a whole season of prison break for people - no problem.
    For next season I hope to go into episode 3-22 without knowing if there's a season 4 or not, and unfortunately the only way to do that is not visit this forum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,195 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    The person who put up the thread "Confirmed: Season 3 of Prison Break!" completely ruined this episode for me.
    What would you propose the thread title be?

    Quit your whining!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭BKtje


    but ruin a whole season of prison break for people - no problem.
    Slight over exageration surely ;) .. good point all the same though infairness.

    I too got chills when he was through that hallway at the end. I knew right away it was Bellick tho on the ground, i mean how could you not :p

    Regarding Kim and the "murder", there is no way the cop would have known that there was a murder unless Kim had told them when they rang that he had witnessed/seen something as they never saw the body before they started chasing them.
    Which leads me to the question, what had Kim told them exactly and surely he didn't leave himself much time to off Linc (and presumably frame Michael)before the cops showed up. That whole scene doesn't totally add up for me at the moment. Will watch it again and see if it makes more sense as i must have missed something.

    Roll on season 3 :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Scraggs


    Was it not when Mahone rang and said two american men killed a well dressed asian?

    Great episode, I'm so disappointed though I thought there was another one left in this season and I just can't wait til August! I really don't think Kellerman is dead..well I hope he isn't anyway. I really loved the final scene with him walking through the prison, I thought yer man was 'Agent Brad Belick FBI' :p but wasn't too sure til that screenshot was posted. Did Mahone go in behind him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭CivilServant


    season 3 starts 29th August 2007

    need i say more?
    sweet, but you know they are really going to stretch it out 1 episode every 2-3 weeks, dripfeed us ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭lukin


    What were yere opinions on the season as a whole? I thought it was pretty good, they overdid some things alright, like the battle of wits between Mahone and Michael, the brothers being captured and escaping etc. but there was more good than bad in it I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Please god no, leave LJ out of Season 3. He can't act for sh1t! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭hefty_langer


    Can I ask a question... Michael had the whole Panama thing planned from way back in this series... but is it just a co-incidence that the US government have some facility in Panama too that the "Company" seem to be trying to hide (SONA)?

    Another question... As the police arrived after Sarah shot Kim, why didn't Mike, Linc and Sarah just sail away on that boat instead of trying to outrun them? strange decision...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭BKtje


    was wondering that too but i guessed that since they'd never been on board before they weren't sure of it or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭kinda lost


    I cant belive hes back in prison!!!!!I just hope season 3 isnt another 22 episodes of him trying to break out of this one!!!Season two was a fantastic season through out and that was a great finally!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭BazMcG


    Season one for me was better.. not overly complicated but i think they are dragging this on way too long they could have easily finished it in season 2. Still ill watch season 3 hope its good.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Meh. Filler.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Enjoyed it but the ending was a bit of a "WTF?!" It gave Lost-esque vibes but it'd be ridiculous to call plagarism on it - the show hardly invented the conspiracy.
    The genetic engineering conspiracies around Michael are interesting, although it would mean that he was a project begun decades ago, which would be odd. Maybe he's been modified since?

    Linc having to free Michael - nice touch!

    Sucre being completely desperate and everyone else in jail does indeed line it up for next season. I don't believe everyone's favourite smarmy Asian is alive and I certainly don't believe Kellerman is - not only did he receive a heroic death, ending his character's arc, but the actor has been cast in the "Grey's Anatomy" spin-off which would limit his ability to appear on the show.

    Good season and a hell of a lot more fun than most stuff on TV currently. Let's hope those writers keep taking their crazy pills!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    wtf? I got completely lost in the last 5 mins or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    Michael looks down to see a familiar face. Bellick lays shaking on the prison floor, near naked and beaten within an inch of his life.
    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    im nearly sure kellerman is dead

    firstly have you noticed very prison transfer in prison break gets destroyed somehow, my guess is that someone from the company had sabotaged it and was tailing them till they stopped,also kellerman saying about the firing squad being an honour to smile, he smiled :P im assuming "you took long enough"could be related to the fact that he would have been quicker or he could be saying it because its been weeks since the company "deleted" him, with bellick im guessing that he came in acting the bossman again or somthing and ended up liike that.im still wondering myself as to what Sona is although im going to say its most likely a prison judging by the people however it doesnt look like a prison, what with the walking down a long corridor just in the front door and all the inmates looking at him because i doubt they would be allowed that close to the exit considering its onnly one door to the outside and stuff

    lol im babbling on now,



    my 2c


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    great last episode, like the movie adaptation said, if you can get the audience in the last act they will forget any or the errors made in the previous acts. Unlike grumpy pants earlier :D, I didn't read anything about a 3rd season (I tend to only scroll down and enter the thread specific to the episode then exit this forum) and I honestly thought the season was coming to an end, they where tying up most of the loose ends pretty well until Kim showed up on the dock, then the proverbial sh!t hit the fan...

    I personally love the direction the show has taken now, a "Bourne Identity"-esque twist, where Mike might be genetically engineered to escape? maybe not? Either way really looking forward to next season. Another season in a prison, w00t, I got my wish :D

    So much happened its hard to recap it without overlooking something. What did silent dude mean when he wrote "only one is needed?" does this mean that maybe both linq and Mike where engineered? I really haven't a clue.

    Oh and Kim and Kellerman are dead. End of. Their story arcs are over. Kellerman was all repentant of his sins, whats he going to do next season? Plant posies? Plus if Kim was alive, why would Mike be in prison? No, i've a feeling next season will introduce a whole new bunch of bad guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭Rollo Tamasi


    Penitenciaría Federal de Sona aka Sona Federal Penitentiary, so it's a jail then.

    I doubt Micheal was purposely put in this jail to help anyone else break out because after all the jail is in Panama. I'm sure you can pay your way out of jail with a box of suntan lotion and a samboro or something.

    Good solid episode 9/10. I like the direction the show is going.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 3,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭LFCFan


    I reckon it's something and not someone that they want Michael to liberate from Sona. Kellerman said in court that the testimony would get him killed which is why he was expecting the hit squad so I reckon he's deffo dead. Excellent Finale. Opens up a whole new can of worms for season 3 :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 Padrock


    First off, does anybody have any ideas what the whole conspiracy might be? At first it was to cover up the whole Steadman thing but that storyline is finished now.

    Also, with regards MarieCruz, Bellick only found out that Sucre knew where the money was when he was about to apprehend him so why would he plan ahead & keep Mariecruz hostage in order to gain leverage? He didn't know about the money so why would he need leverage?! I reckon she's grand, out picking apples & wondering where Sucre is, they'll be reunited I'm sure & will live happily ever after ala C-Note.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭lukin


    I hope Scheuring manages the same innovation with season 3 that he achieved with this season.
    The way he used different locations in the US (Utah, New Mexico) and outside it (Panama, Mexico) made it more interesting for the viewer I think.
    Also the use of codes and and clues was kind of a challenge for us to work them out (eg "Bolshoi Booze","The Message").


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I hope Kellerman is dead. I loved his character, but it was a perfect way to finish him off. The whole 'smile just before they shoot you' worked like a charm.

    It does seem to be going a bit mad though. The general and all that. If the words genetically engineered start popping up, i'll be really annoyed. I dont want no sci-fi crap ruining the story (even though im a big sci-fi fan).

    Overall i loved the episode. Great finish to a great season...oh and that definatly was Bellick.


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