even more aerlingus charges

SoBe

god will they ever quit

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0402/aerlingus.html?rss

Ruu_Old

Argh, here Mannion, yes its the shirt off my back! Hope it doesn't effect long haul flights too in the future.

breadmonkey

Personally, I couldn't give a fúck where I sit. It seems that it's couples with kids to look after that are getting gouged the most these days.

SoBe

Ruu wrote:

Argh, here Mannion, yes its the shirt off my back! Hope it doesn't effect long haul flights too in the future.

tis only a matter of time.im online at the min booking a flight for my gf to come over for a wedding in may and i tell you aerlingus aint even close on price.gona be either delta or aa

EDIT: aa won the price war. $200 cheaper than aerlingus as usual

BuffyBot

Seems a bit OTT to be honest, but not surprising. Trying to out-Ryanair Ryanair will cause them grief in the end, because no matter how much they try, they will never quite get there.

jonny68

Aer Lingus are bad but not as bad as Ryanair :mad:

SoBe

jonny68 wrote:

Aer Lingus are bad but not as bad as Ryanair :mad:

there getting there.

personally i think since Willie Walsh left them and went to ba they have consistently gone worse and worse.give them a year or so and watch them go tits up to the sky.then ba or the like will come in and bail them out and then we can look forward to every transatlantic flight going through london.

/ shudders

*rant over

mikedragon32

I see they'll be charging even more if you want a seat in the first few rows or a seat by an exit.

Does this mean they'll have no control over who sits at the exits on the basis that someone has paid to sit there, thus compromising the safety of passengers.

jmayo

You are not compromising safety.
If you are willing to pay extra for emergency exit seats then you must be safety conscious and thus deserving to sit there.
BTW what are the extra charges exactly ?

BuffyBot

Does this mean they'll have no control over who sits at the exits on the basis that someone has paid to sit there, thus compromising the safety of passengers.

They'll still be able to move you, if they decide they have to.

mikedragon32

Irish Times wrote:

From tomorrow until May 22nd, customers buying tickets online can prebook seats on flights in Europe for €3 per flight.

However, from May 23rd the cost of prebooking will rise to €10 for the first five seat rows, €15 for an exit-row seat, with all remaining seats costing €3 to prebook.

It's not a question of being safety conscious and deserving to sit in an exit seat, it's a matter of CAN the person sitting there be confident of their ability to open the exit should the need arise.

Ruu_Old

Its all geared towards the business customer sez Aer Lingus marketing chap.

xebec

It's already a practice with BMI to charge €3 to allow people to choose their seat at the check-in kiosk, this upgrades you from baby to economy so it's definitely aimed at the less frequent/non business traveller.

BuffyBot

Introduced due to "customer demand".

I'd love to know which customers were demanding to be charged for something that was previously free..

xebec

The customer demand is for the particular seats. I'm not a fan of this, but it makes economic sense for Aer Lingus. There is obviously enough demand that people are prepared to pay for this service. Those that want it can pay, those that don't won't get charged extra. Aer Lingus are not adding extra charges to their ticket price, they're selling an extra service. Now as long as they do it nice and simply and make it obvious how to select/de-select it unlike Ryanair!

Ruu_Old

Anyone know what airlines have the seat charge thingy for transatlantic routes like Enda Corneille mentioned?

Zaph

The demand is there, I've used the seat selection option myself, but €10 and €15 is taking the p*ss completely. It's typical of this country, introduce a charge, but instead of making it a small charge that very few people will object to and lots might use, let's screw the public for as much as we think we can get away with.

SoBe

god wouldnt you love to walk up to the check in desk with 10 kids and say "put them where ever you want"

daveg

Coming back from Rome with Ryanair recently several people checked in and had paid for priority boarding. Everyone went to the departure desk and the priority boarders went out to the bus first. Everyone else joined and then the bus drove to the plane where everyone piled off and ran to the plane. If I'd paid for priority boarding I'd have been well pissed. There was no way priority boarding could have been serviced (with the bus involved). I wonder did anyone get a refund?

BuffyBot

Anyone know what airlines have the seat charge thingy for transatlantic routes like Enda Corneille mentioned?

None of the main, scheduled airlines that I know of.

FlutterinBantam

Simply cannot understand why people find these charges so hard to swallow

Surely people don't think Aer lingus's airfares can support their cost base???

Expect...charges for space on the overhead racks.

Extension seat belts.

seats with reclineability

Sick bags.

Until they get their costbase down to industry levels for LCA's,this is what is going to happen.

SoBe

FlutterinBantam wrote:

Simply cannot understand why people find these charges so hard to swallow

Surely people don't think Aer lingus's airfares can support their cost base???

Expect...charges for space on the overhead racks.

Extension seat belts.

seats with reclineability

Sick bags.

Until they get their costbase down to industry levels for LCA's,this is what is going to happen.

people find it hard to swallow because its increase after increase with aerlingus.they still have that fuel surcharge going,which prices them out of the market.

how are they going to be considered a lfa when all the surcharges will add up to be more than the price of the flight?

next thing you will see on their planes will be a coin slot on the toilet door with a big sign for €2,no wait knowing them it will be a note scanner with a sign saying €10 for a pee and €15 for a dump

all i can say is price around and without a doubt you will save more with other airlines

Our man in Havana

I for one welcome these new charges. I am 6ft 4 and I would galdly hand over €15 to get an exit seat. Well done Dermot.

Zaph

Happy to pay €15 for something that you could have had for nothing the other day?

jester77

I find these charges ridiculous, especially the emergency exit seats. If business people were willing to pay extra for seats then why don't they bring back business class and let them pay that way?

Our man in Havana

You in theory could have gotten exit row seats for free but in practice they are not given to people that deserve them i.e. the tall. I would pay to ensure I got one. €15 is not alot to pay to ensure the comfort of having long legs in a plane for several hours.

FlutterinBantam

Bond-007 wrote:

I for one welcome these new charges. I am 6ft 4 and I would galdly hand over €15 to get an exit seat. Well done Dermot.

heh heh..EVERYBODY who travels on a 'plane is 6' 4" includin the women;)

xebec

FlutterinBantam wrote:

heh heh..EVERYBODY who travels on a 'plane is 6' 4" includin the women;)

Eh no, that's why those people wouldn't need the extra leg room and therefore shouldn't feel the compulsion to pay €15 extra for an exit seat.

Imposter

FlutterinBantam wrote:

Simply cannot understand why people find these charges so hard to swallow

Surely people don't think Aer lingus's airfares can support their cost base???

Any time i've priced a flight in the last 2 years flights were a lot more expensive (except for once) than they were back when they weren't trying to be a low cost airline. If you get the flight during a sale then it's different but those seats are generally ones they couldn't sell anyway.

mullmick

If you are willing to pay extra for emergency exit seats then you must be safety conscious and thus deserving to sit there.

Having an exit seat, I would suspect is rarely to do with being safety conscious, and more to do with getting an extra few inches of leg room.

On the charges-I think its a shame. The first 5 row thing is a potential revenue generator for some flights, but not for say, cross- atlantic flights, where it is likely that people will have luggage in the hold, its not really of any advantage... just longer to wait at the carrousel for your luggage.

To be Frank.

These days theres almost as many SALE emails from aer lingus arriving to me as there are for ciallas and viagra.

A whole lot of fuss about nothing here in my opinion.

There are only 6 of the exit seats out of how many on the plane? (don't count the ones behind the exit seats because iirc they dont recline)

Before the days of ryan air it would have cost you as much to fly to London as it now does to New York never mind the cost to Europe.

The first 5 row thing is a potential revenue generator for some flights, but not for say, cross- atlantic flights, where it is likely that people will have luggage in the hold, its not really of any advantage... just longer to wait at the carrousel for your luggage.

Well the first 5 rows of the trans atlantic EI flights cost about €3000 - hows that for a premium and all you get is some outdated 70's style half reclining seat and cheap plonk on tap with admitedly very nice food.
For that market they'll have to get their act together given AA's new 160 degree product flying from Dublin soon.