PS3 without HDMI

Hank_Scorpio

I have these connections on the back of my television, YPbPr Analog Component Video, RGB Analog Component Video, S-Video Analog Component Video. I don't have HDMI but I have a nice large television. I don't want to go down the route of buying an expensive television just yet.

With these connections what is the best way to hook up the PS3 and what will give me the best resolution and what is the best resolution I can hope for?

I am considering going for the full 1080 television, but that won't be for a while, well at least until my credit card forgives me.

The_Conductor

You most probably have a scart connector at the back of your TV. You can pick up a HDMI to DVI connector and then a DVI-D to Scart connector very easily- the two connectors which you would have linked to each other should come to less than 20 Euro. Try Maplin Electronics / Peats.

Hank_Scorpio

Any idea of the res you'd get from that?

The_Conductor

Theoretically 1600 x 1280 at least (depending on the quality of your components)
All three standards- thats the HDMI cable, the HDMI to DVI adaptor and the DVI to Scart connector support resolutions far exceeding that which most televisions are capable of displaying.

Providing you get the right cables, and high quality components (silver plated non-oxidised copper or gold-plated copper connections) there is no reason that display should not be at the max resolution of your TV.

Note: shielding for cables and length of cables are another factor (especially important with Scart).

Kintarō Hattori

As a matter of interest, what type of television do you have? Is it an older lcd/plasma or the tube type of TV? If it's the tube type, no matter what you do the highest resolution it will support will be around the 640x480 mark. That's pretty much the max of CRT technology.

mathias

You can pick up a HDMI to DVI connector and then a DVI-D to Scart connector very easily- the two connectors which you would have linked to each other should come to less than 20 Euro. Try Maplin Electronics / Peats.

I am pretty sure this will not work , the reason being that HDMI is a digital interface only and there is no analog component to the signals , unlike DVI on some computer graphics cards which do have an analog component .

http://www.interfacebus.com/HDMI_Pinout_Bus.html

In the case of a DVI Computer graphics card its the analog RGB component that gets routed to the scart , thats impossible with a HDMI connection as there is no analog RGB present.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVI

HDMI DVI have all the digital signals in common so can be interchanged , not so HDMI and Scart. Therefore , HDMI to DVI to Scart = no signal

Your best bet with the PS3 is to use the Multi AV out , which is analog , I have no idea if it supports HD though.

mathias

Found this on the net ,

http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/videooutput.html

So from the D terminal ( if you have one ! ) on the PS3 the full range of HD options is available , so its just a matter of buying the right cable from the D connector to component in on your TV , all other connections are SD only so if you dont have a D terminal its HDMI or nothing.

Hank_Scorpio

I have a Toshiba 42WH46P http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=Toshiba%2042WH46P%20&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7AMSA&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

mathias

That TV is not ( as far as I can see ) a HD TV so HDMI is no benefit there , just use the standard AV out terminal to connect , or the component , it doesnt matter , its a good SD TV so the picture will be a good picture , but HD is not available to you from the PS3 with that TV , the best resolution is probably 576p

Hank_Scorpio

Well considering the connections that are at the rear of the TV and a quick chat with the guys in the Sony Center this morning apparently the Component AV cables will get better high definition but not the 1080, more around the 720 mark. Which is still quite good. I will have to pop over to Maplins or the Sony Center on my break and have a chat with some of their AV guys about the options. I am getting a lot of mixed feed back on this subject.

mathias

According to the guys on AVforums that TV is a Widescreen 100hz TV , thats it , it doesnt do HD , neither does it do progressive , it cant do HD , 576 is not HD , its just SD , ( or what the states might call EDTV , )

rogue-entity

eo980 wrote:

..If it's the tube type, no matter what you do the highest resolution it will support will be around the 640x480 mark. That's pretty much the max of CRT technology.

I do not believe that is quite true, my 19" CRT computer monitor operates with a resolution of about 1900x1024 quite happily.

OP, the PS3 should come with Componant YPrPb outputs as well as HDMI, and if not, if you can get HDMI to YPrPb cables, your HD TV should happily display a HD signal using these cables, but be aware that if you are wanting to watch "protected" HD content on BD Discs, you may get a down-scaled picture because you are not using a HDMI connector at the TV, it is part of this crappy new copy protection system. Other then that, their should be no problems, and no need for two different sets of converting cables

8T8

Wrong forum for this methinks

Anyway component supports up to 1080i on most TV's that support that resolution.

Newer TV's support 1080p with component but those are a minority at the moment.

720p if of course supported.

PS2 component cables are compatible with PS3 & there are plenty of component third party cables for the PS3 out their.

As mathias pointed out your TV is not a HDTV, it is a standard definition TV the most you can get is either 480p or 576p out of it which is really a waste of the hardware. Do use the component connection as it will be of better picture quality then the others inputs available on that TV & of course if the you do get a new TV use the HDMI output if available.

Kintarō Hattori

rogue-entity wrote:

I do not believe that is quite true, my 19" CRT computer monitor operates with a resolution of about 1900x1024 quite happily.

I was referring to CRT televisions, rather than monitors, as the OP was talking about his TV. He doesn't have a HDTV, rather an older style non HD television. As 8T8 pointed out, this is really in the wrong forum.