Online Vs Live...bringing your 'A' game

DeadParrot

This is something that has started to bug me.
Online in the anonymity of my house in my boxers*, I can play my usual game and turn a nice little profit. However, I've noticed in myself, playing live at events like JP's, the student game, the SE etc, I've developed a habit of getting too attached to hands/letting meself become shortstacked/MUTBS and generally stinking up the place. Now I dont play terrible but silly things like chip handling, bet sizing and hand reading really throw me out of my comfort zone. I dont wear glasses or listen to music as to be honest it struck me as a bit pretentious but now think that at least music may help me concentrate.
Am I alone in this or has anyone else found the transition affect their play?
and more importantly, bar experience, what turned it around?

*not really true, underwear is for wimps

ianmc38

when i first started i played mainly live, did ok and won a bit. after a while i started playing much looser and playing much much worse having regular losing nights (more so than winning nights). After that i said fook this and decided not to play live for a while. I played a load of hands online, then played another load and another load. Since I got back from Vegas, I've played probably 4 or 5 times in the casino and have made a profit everytime because I adapted my game from being on the loose side of TAG to being very standard TAG (as I'd play online). I feel this change has benefitted my play and results greatly!

jacQues

DeadParrot wrote:

underwear is for wimps

I agree.

For me its the other way around. See the other (older) Onlive vs. Live thread. I win win win live and lose lose lose online. I don't wear glasses and 99% of the time don't use my iPod (1%=only when there are annoying people at the table).

There must be some fundamental difference. But I have no clue what.*

jacQues

* Maybe its the waitress?

Rnger

i'm also the opposite. I have hardly any disicpline when playing online. I listen to my ipod about 90% of the time! Is it pretentious? I like music! Its usually low enough so i can still hear everything

58o

I stink playing online cash. Raising nearly every hand playing waaaaaay too aggressive, whereas Live i have no problem sitting there and folding for hours on end. No idea why there is such a difference between the two.

bohsman

I tag it up completely online but the second I play live cash its lag all the way

DeadParrot

Rnger wrote:

i'm also the opposite. I have hardly any disicpline when playing online. I listen to my ipod about 90% of the time! Is it pretentious? I like music! Its usually low enough so i can still hear everything

Im not saying it's pretentious, just that it appeared to me pretentious when I started playing live. I'm starting to come around now.
Some great answers btw
TAG vs LAG or visa versa depending on the personna

LuckyLloyd

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DeadParrot

LuckyLloyd wrote:

I am a losing online player, but a winning live one. This might mean that I just amn't very good (as a lot of regulars around here value online much more); or it might mean something else. I dunno.

I take so much more out of playing live. The amount of information available to you before you make decisions is so much greater. I get a buzz out of playing live that just doesn't exist on a computer screen for me.

To Deadparrot:

I have sat at the same starting table as you during the last two decent structured events I have played. On both occassions you were visibly hungover. Furthermore, you seemed uncomfortable handling chips and slightly unfocused on the flow of the game.

I don't have these problems as I started playing live. I can only imagine that if you had began the game online where everything is laid out for you (blinds, stacks, levels, etc.) it could be a struggle to adjust to the pace and props of a live game. I have seen other good players who aren't very comfortable at a live table (Rounders is a prime example).

The best advice I could give you is to get a bit of sleep in before your next outing and try to turn up sober and rested. Bring the Ipod and stick it on if you find the chatter dull or the action at the table slow. Also, I can't riffle chips (and my chip stacking abillities are not great) - but I think it best to just keep them in ordered piles. It is important to be able to quickly tallly how much you have, and if they are ordered it just makes the task of getting the right amounts to call / raise a bet together. If you have been having problems, I would suggest that anything that allows you to focus on the important stuff would be beneficial.

Good luck.

Good advice Lloyd, the hangover thing most of all
Fit and Rested me at the next one and we'll see how we go....

valor

when I play live I get bored really easily and start playing trash

Wreck

I find that when I play live I'm more prone to making one big error that will cost me my stack, usually somewhere between 2 and 3 hours into any given tournament. Its generally a move or call I would never make playing online. Have no idea why, and its only when I come to analyse it after the event I see the mistake. I also have problems with bet sizing live, although I am improving in this regard.