Jefferey Archer

Filan · 23-03-2007 9:30pm #1

Has Jefferey Archer written a revised New Testament? Saw a newspaper headline but didn't get a chance to explore it

5uspect · 24-03-2007 5:00pm

He was on the Late Late last night, I'm sure it'll pop up on youtube if it was particularly silly.

Dave! · 24-03-2007 8:37pm

Yeh saw some of it last night. He was explaining that it's an example of Christians not being complacent and accepting everything as fact, but rather being sceptical and using external sources to corroborate stories described in the Bible. He said that a few of the supposed miracles never happened, eg. walking on water. Of course, 90% of the miracles did happen (rising from the dead and so on :rolleyes: ), but not everything did. He was on the show with some other bloke (a priest), whom he spent most of the time verbally fellating. Didn't recieve a particularly strong response either way from the audience, and there was some tosser of a religious journalist who was quite critical and insulting of the book and authors.

5uspect · 24-03-2007 8:51pm

I turned off after the nonsense that was the miracle "discussion".

Dave! · 24-03-2007 9:46pm

Yeh that was fairly infuriating.... grrg

Asiaprod · 24-03-2007 11:43pm

Filan wrote:

Has Jefferey Archer written a revised New Testament? Saw a newspaper headline but didn't get a chance to explore it

Are you refering to his new book "the Gospel According to Judas"? Just finished reading a review of it in this morning's paper. Looks interesting.

Filan · 25-03-2007 12:25am

No but I believe that the portrayal of Judas has been revised in this new catechism by Archer

Dave! · 25-03-2007 12:44am

I'm pretty sure 'the Gospel according to Judas' is the book they were talking about......

Asiaprod · 25-03-2007 4:02am

DaveMcG wrote:

I'm pretty sure 'the Gospel according to Judas' is the book they were talking about......

I feel so, I have never heard of any New Catechism by him.

Filan · 25-03-2007 9:26am

Maybe it's not a new Catechism...but he has rewritten the new testament apparently with Vatican approval. The miracles of walking on water and turning water into wine have been deleted and the betrayal by Judas brought in line with the Gospel of Judas

philologos · 25-03-2007 12:17pm

Filan wrote:

Maybe it's not a new Catechism...but he has rewritten the new testament apparently with Vatican approval. The miracles of walking on water and turning water into wine have been deleted and the betrayal by Judas brought in line with the Gospel of Judas

That's very much pick and mix religion though. If you don't believe in one thing, why believe in any of it.

5uspect · 25-03-2007 12:30pm

But thats the majority of them. As you are seeing in the creationism thread believing every single thing thats written down to be literal truth results in vast selective self blinkering to the observed facts.

Excelsior · 26-03-2007 11:19am

The Gospel of Judas is a Gnostic text written in or around 325AD. Taking it to be a serious historical document would be akin to finding a text today that claimed to be written by Napoleon's right hand men and finding in the prologue discussion of nuclear weaponry and airstrike assaults.

It is absolutely preposterous to me that in a day when so much of the theological and historical research points back again and again to the canonical Gospels being eye-witness reports, the mass population are more convinced than ever that anything old must be of equal validity.

Archer is a fraud and a pulp-fiction author. I would recommend people go to historians for their history.

Jefferey Archer

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