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Differing Prices - Nikon D2xs

  • 22-03-2007 11:40pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭


    Hi

    Did a comparison of prices this evening on the Nikon D2xs which I am thinking about buying.

    Conns: €4699
    BH Photo Video (New York): €3337 (inc. VAT and express courier)

    Is it worth buying from BH to save €1400 or am I best to buy local and have service on my doorstep?

    Anyone got a view on this?

    I have bought lenses from BH before so I know they are trustworthy, I am concerned at the price diff.

    S


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    take into account the percentage you'll undoubtedly pay on duty charges bringing the thing in from the US


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭slumped


    rymus wrote:
    take into account the percentage you'll undoubtedly pay on duty charges bringing the thing in from the US

    Digital Cameras are duty exempt - there is a code you can get from Revenue in Tipperary and as long as this code is clearly displayed on Address then it will clear no problem.

    I've done this before, albeit on smaller coolpix cams.

    What would u do Rymus?>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    exempt? mother of god.. I'm off to buy a 1Ds then

    For a €1400 difference, I'd buy two and sell the other one off for a huge profit :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭slumped


    rymus wrote:
    exempt? mother of god.. I'm off to buy a 1Ds then

    For a €1400 difference, I'd buy two and sell the other one off for a huge profit :D

    Duty Exempt - Not VAT exempt

    S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭Biker.ie


    I think its only items valued below €250 that are exempt, above that it's 3% duty then 21% VAT on the whole lot including shipping costs, bearing in mind the correct value should be marked on a package for insurance purposes.

    I wouldn't buy a D2Xs with the D3 around the corner, its quite noisy at anything above ISO 600 I believe, lots higher than the new D80 for instance and that crop factor seems to be a gimmick as you can manually crop anything yourself afterwards in photoshop. If anything the prices should take a dive when Canon's MKIII rival hits the shelves which should be quite soon, the only thing I like about it is a predictive zoom feature that adjusts the focus point in front of a rapidly moving subject travelling towards you.

    Lenses like the 600 F/4 and 70-200 Nikkors are ridiculously cheap (relative to Dublin/UK prices) in the states also, €1,400 would get you a fine hotel and holiday in New York city and bring the equipment home in your luggage ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭slumped


    So I suppose my next question is will the D2xs drop significantly?

    The D3 has a RRP in the US of $7500 which means it will be closer to €9000 here.

    That still leaves a huge gap to the D2xs.

    Anyone else got a view??

    S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭GristlyEnd


    Just to clarify there is no duty on digital cameras (no matter what the value), only 21% VAT of the cost & transport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭slumped


    DarrenG wrote:
    Just to clarify there is no duty on digital cameras (no matter what the value), only 21% VAT of the cost & transport.

    thanks-thats what I thought.

    S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Slumped did you check out the pirce of the D2x in Denmark, Canon 1d MKIII is €4000 there which is approx €2500 les than retail here. Might be similar saving on D2X?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭digitally-yours


    Borderfox wrote:
    Slumped did you check out the pirce of the D2x in Denmark, Canon 1d MKIII is €4000 there which is approx €2500 les than retail here. Might be similar saving on D2X?

    Any links ?

    I am thinking of buying a D200 with 18-200 vr

    Any links for shops offering good prices are much appreciated


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Borderfox wrote:
    Slumped did you check out the pirce of the D2x in Denmark, Canon 1d MKIII is €4000 there which is approx €2500 les than retail here. Might be similar saving on D2X?
    Where is giving that quote? €6,500 seems excessive even for Ireland!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭localchap


    I could highly recommend you guys very good UK seller, bought from them twice 580ex, canon 24-70 f/2.8. Them are really flexible on pricing, you might find their prices attractive i hope http://www.amazon.co.uk/shops/digital-4-u
    Had very unpleasant experience on buying from America recently, 21%VAT plus tonns of unclear miscelanious fees are just killers. Not a chance to get anything through post which is over 23 euro in value without paying VAT and the whole lot. More over don't even try to ask your overseas friends or relatives send any photogear without detailed invoice confirming its value, it just simply WONT GET THROUGH THE CUSTOMS, alas:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭mathias


    Lenses like the 600 F/4 and 70-200 Nikkors are ridiculously cheap (relative to Dublin/UK prices) in the states also, €1,400 would get you a fine hotel and holiday in New York city and bring the equipment home in your luggage

    The only way to go , thats how I got my 5d , quick trip over to the states and a visit to B&H , still saved lots on the price here which was 3.6K at the time. Unforeseen cost of 100 dollars for a flight change as BH do not open at the weekends but I'll know better next time.
    Brought over an empty camera bag , came back full , no hassle and great memories.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭slumped


    strange thing here

    went to bh photo site and added the D2xs to my basket and when went to checkout I was told they cannot ship that camera to Ireland due to manufacturers restrictions,

    Tried the D200 and got the same message

    Have Nikon told US stores not to ship outside of US given the poor state of the dollar???

    S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭localchap


    mathias wrote:
    The only way to go , thats how I got my 5d , quick trip over to the states and a visit to B&H , still saved lots on the price here which was 3.6K at the time. Unforeseen cost of 100 dollars for a flight change as BH do not open at the weekends but I'll know better next time.
    Brought over an empty camera bag , came back full , no hassle and great memories.
    Its not 100% guaranteed no hassle, maybe a year or so ago.A friend of mine came back from Americo a couple weeks ago. The customs check up was quite thorough upon arrival Dublin, he had camcorder in its carrying case which was inspected to be not brand new or something, so I'd say its 50/50, besides you have to bring in camera packaging and manuals somehow in your luggage as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭localchap


    By the way, speaking about prices for Mark III. Pay your attention to Swiss, through google.ch, converting to euros its only 3150 something plus travel expences to Swiss since they don't ship outside the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭localchap


    here we go, here Nikon D2xs same price as american plus 3 yrs extended warranty! if you contact them and buy directly 50£ off the price, if you buy from them refer my this post please and I'll get further discounts in future
    http://cgi.ebay.ie/Nikon-D2Xs-Digital-SLR-Camera-UK-Seller-EU-TAX-FREE_W0QQitemZ270103018185QQcategoryZ31388QQcmdZViewItem
    enjoy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭Valentia


    mathias wrote:
    BH do not open at the weekends.

    They are open on Sundays, all day. I was there last Sunday.

    slumped, they also do a "MACK" warrenty which covers you internationally. I believe it is even better than the manufacturers own warranty. I got one for the 17-40L that I bought and it cost $25. That was on a value of about $690 so it would be proportionate I imagine in your case.

    BTW the 17-40L in Conns would be over €900 so nearly a €400 saving. It would be well worth having a short holiday in NY. That can be done on the VAT, duty and cost saving with a few bob left over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    I have Mack international warranties with all my lenses, they range form 3-7 years. Provides a little extra peace of mind, seeing as Fajitas uses them the odd time :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Roen wrote:
    Where is giving that quote? €6,500 seems excessive even for Ireland!

    http://www.berminghamcameras.ie/store/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭daenis


    Just checked your link for Berminghams and its €4450. Maybe you should be sure of prices before you post links to them

    http://www.berminghamcameras.ie/store/index.php?target=categories&category_id=181


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Sebzy


    Ah now it's €4,450.00 without vat which sets Jo Soap back 5,384.00 EUR

    vat@ 21% = 934.5EUR

    EDIT: oh wait I got it wrong the price above the 4450 is with vat just not too clear on the website.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭slumped


    daenis wrote:
    Just checked your link for Berminghams and its €4450. Maybe you should be sure of prices before you post links to them

    http://www.berminghamcameras.ie/store/index.php?target=categories&category_id=181

    go easy on him!!

    anyone else try getting a Nikon from US by mail order???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Sorry boys must have been a preview price


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭daenis


    slumped wrote:
    go easy on him!!

    anyone else try getting a Nikon from US by mail order???

    Didn't mean to sound harsh. Just didn't think it was fair. I think people can be a bit harsh about Irish shops on here sometimes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    It's 4175 now, 3450 ex. VAT. Hmmm, someone from Berminghams is following this thread. If only I had a VAT number......

    Linky


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭daenis


    Roen wrote:
    It's 4175 now, 3450 ex. VAT. Hmmm, someone from Berminghams is following this thread. If only I had a VAT number......

    Linky

    It's the D2Xs we were talking about. Unless i'm wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Just a thought Slumped, do you know anybody that can claim the VAT back for you on the D2x? That brings the Irish to €3677


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    I think myself and Borderfox were on about the 1diii.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭localchap


    I don't get it why some people try to compicate things with having headache to be focused on UK market only????
    Lads, open your eyes and look around,
    For those who die for Mark III, nearly the US price in here http://www.architronic.ch/?id=000888062 for as much as 3115 in euro.
    Just buy your ticket from airlingus or ryanair for a couple euros and fly over there for a day when that new mark 3 i comes in the market.
    now, D2xs, ebay price 3345 euro something from UK seller, as good as US price.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭daenis


    Sorry about that. Got a bit lost there on the thread. New to this so just finding my feet. 4450 was for a D2Xs, my apologies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    The last price I was talking about was the D2x seeing if he could get the VAT back on purchase.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭slumped


    My employer might be convinced to buy it for me and claim back VAT - I've done some work for them so it could be an expense............

    I'm still wondering though if Nikon (Europe) have told Nikon US not to ship cameras to this side of the pond??

    S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭localchap


    slumped wrote:
    My employer might be convinced to buy it for me and claim back VAT - I've done some work for them so it could be an expense............

    I'm still wondering though if Nikon (Europe) have told Nikon US not to ship cameras to this side of the pond??

    S
    There's a sucha marketing policy of giants like Canon, Nikon, to keep their business localy. This measure aimed to prevent dumping on prices in different trade markets. US dollar is quite weak today compare to euro not to mention UK pound, thats why it happens, imagine if a lot of European start buying in States, what would happen then???European market would simply collapse.
    big companies try to hold the market, they sell cheaper in States, yes, its caused by local living standards, pricing plus strong desire to dominate in giant market which USA is, same for Nikon. But they compensate their credible losses in Americo by selling dearer in Europe according to European living standards and pricing, quite simple though:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭daenis


    Not too sound too 'girly' but alot of companies have started to do this. Tiffanys is one example, you can't buy on their US site unless you are a US resident. You have to buy from the UK in Europe. Price difference is massive!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭localchap


    daenis wrote:
    Not too sound too 'girly' but alot of companies have started to do this. Tiffanys is one example, you can't buy on their US site unless you are a US resident. You have to buy from the UK in Europe. Price difference is massive!!!
    This is not hot news though, lots of companies do the same, Abercrombie, Gap, etc.I don't think its fair towards Europeans but thats the way it works unfortunately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Well, the thread started by Lenisterman all those months ago really helped educate people toward alternatives to buying outside Ireland. Add to that the sticky above recommending places to buy and anyone here should have a fair clue about the whole photo game

    We can't really blame the Irish retailer for high prices either, they buy at a high price and need to make a profit. They're as much victims as anyone. There will always be a few that will take the piss however.


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