Why no cricket on RTE?

Revelation Joe

I can't believe that the state broadcaster doesn't even have a highlights programme for Ireland's first appearance in the cricket World Cup. :mad: I know Sky has the games live but not everyone has access to Sky.
The BBC has a highlights show and I think it's very slack of RTE not to have sorted something out. If the team do qualify for the Super 8 stage, where they'll be out there for another four weeks, and interest in the tournament grows here, then maybe they'll have their act together! :rolleyes:

godtabh

Revelation Joe wrote:

I can't believe that the state broadcaster doesn't even have a highlights programme for Ireland's first appearance in the cricket World Cup. :mad: I know Sky has the games live but not everyone has access to Sky.
The BBC has a highlights show and I think it's very slack of RTE not to have sorted something out. If the team do qualify for the Super 8 stage, where they'll be out there for another four weeks, and interest in the tournament grows here, then maybe they'll have their act together! :rolleyes:

I wouldnt have thought there would be a demand for it

KdjaCL

kearnsr wrote:

I wouldnt have thought there would be a demand for it

But they won a game so the wagon rolls, Cricket be in Croke Park next


kdjac

DMC

If Ireland lost their two opening matches, this thread probably wouldn't exist.

Yes, it would've been nice for RTÉ to cover it with highlights, but it would only be a direct lift from Global Cricket Corporation or the BBC (which itself is repackaged GCC coverage)

Something like this might get RTÉ interested in the future

Kinetic^

I'd say it's due to RTE having enough bad programs already.

lostexpectation

KdjaCL wrote:

But they won a game so the wagon rolls, Cricket be in Croke Park next


kdjac

hilarious lol

Mossy Monk

don't think there would have been enough interest for RTÉ to show highlights. highlights are widely available on the BBC anyway

Kenny 5 wrote:

I'd say it's due to RTE having enough bad programs already.

that is just priceless :rolleyes:

Revelation Joe

DMC wrote:

If Ireland lost their two opening matches, this thread probably wouldn't exist.

Yes, it would've been nice for RTÉ to cover it with highlights, but it would only be a direct lift from Global Cricket Corporation or the BBC (which itself is repackaged GCC coverage)

Something like this might get RTÉ interested in the future

I e-mailed them around New Year to ask if there was going to be any coverage and they didn't even bother to reply
I know it's a minority interest but putting it on at 2am, even if it *is* just someone else's coverage, would have been better than nothing.

Mossy Monk wrote:

highlights are widely available on the BBC anyway

So? Eastenders is available on the BBC, but that doesn't stop RTE showing it! Why do so many people assume that everyone has access to the UK channels?

Maybe they could have put it on TG4? They show Wimbledon after all!

Oh and this *isn't* bandwagon jumping. I'm English and have followed cricket for about twenty years!

Mossy Monk

i am sure that the majority of those who follow cricket have been using UK television channels to watch up until this World Cup. i mean where else would people have seen it? hell let's go the whole hog and get RTÉ to give coverage to every single sporting event that has an Irish team

RuggieBear

now there is an idea.

It is the Nation's broadcaster after all. I for one would think it a much better spending of the licence fee on Irish teams participating internationally than poxy English and Australian soaps.

Revelation Joe

Mossy Monk wrote:

i am sure that the majority of those who follow cricket have been using UK television channels to watch up until this World Cup. i mean where else would people have seen it? hell let's go the whole hog and get RTÉ to give coverage to every single sporting event that has an Irish team

I've just had to put up without it. I just thought that with it being Ireland's debut in the World Cup that they or TG4 might have made an effort to cover it.
There's Wimbledon and Aussie Rules on TG4 and I wouldn't be surprised if there's more cricket fans in Ireland than tennis and AR fans. There's no tennis or AR forum on here, so they can't be *that* popular

DMC

Ruggiebear wrote:

It is the Nation's broadcaster after all. I for one would think it a much better spending of the licence fee on Irish teams participating internationally than poxy English and Australian soaps.

Sadly, living without soaps would be commercial suicide. You or I might not be the target audience, but it has an audience. And they might not warm to cricket straight away. Imagine the uproar if RTÉ decided to drop Lost or Desperate Housewifes to show cricket? Far more people watch that than play circket! (btw, I am of the opinion that Eastenders on RTÉ1 is a joke)

Revelation Joe wrote:

I've just had to put up without it. I just thought that with it being Ireland's debut in the World Cup that they or TG4 might have made an effort to cover it.
There's Wimbledon and Aussie Rules on TG4 and I wouldn't be surprised if there's more cricket fans in Ireland than tennis and AR fans. There's no tennis or AR forum on here, so they can't be *that* popular

Just because there isn't a forum for it on boards.ie doesn't means that it isn't popular! There is a racket sports forum, but swimming is a big leisure pursuit, yet doesn't have a forum here. And as for Aussie Rules, its not live on the TV, so we make do with highlights. Most people know the results, but can't see the matches to discuss it. Aussie Rules also has cross-over with GAA.

Rights costs might have been prohibitive because Sky own the live rights and then trying to fit them into the schedule, without alienating an existing audience. If it cost them a few hundred thousand and put them on at 1am, I wouldn't consider that money well spent.

gucci

i would have thought they would have it on TG4 and have a few ex hurlers talking about it a lá ITV with john barnes and martin johnson as they're experts on american football can you imagine a decent hurling goalie laugh at the cricketers wince as the ball is thrown at them....

lodgepole

It's too expensive and has too small an audience. I don't think people realise how much it costs for a channel to move into a sporting market like that. Your best bet is Setanta picking up a highlights package. They already show ICC Cricket (maybe not on the Irish channel, but the UK ones certainly do), although it's a load of old poxy ****e.

hot fuss

Sky have ALL the rights to show Irish and UK action in the Cricket World Cup. BBC have the ONLY terrestrial rights to show highlights. As a result of this, RTÉ can't show any of the cricket world cup. Basically they can't afford to outbid Sky when bidding for rights and it's as simple as that.

RTÉ also won't be showing any of the Irish games in the rugby world cup later in the year..

Mossy Monk

isnt Setanta showing the rugby
along with ITV

Revelation Joe

I wasn't being *totally* serious when I said sports can't be popular if they don't have a Boards forum ICBW but aren't AFL matches shown live on Sky?

gucci wrote:

can you imagine a decent hurling goalie laugh at the cricketers wince as the ball is thrown at them....

A cricket ball hurts. A lot. Especially if you're a fielder with no helmet or pads or a big hurley to hit it away with Why do you think the wicketkeeper has those big gloves?

hot fuss wrote:

BBC have the ONLY terrestrial rights to show highlights.

How can the BBC have the Irish terrestrial rights to broadcast highlights? They are not an Irish company. If RTE wanted to acquire the Irish rights, I'm sure they could have.
The BBC don't have the rights to show the Premiership in Ireland, which is why RTE can show matches on Saturday at 3pm.

DMC

Only the AFL Grand Final in September is live on Sky. Otherwise it looks the same as TG4. Same highlights package, but there can be one 2 hour extended package.

The BBC (nor any other UK broadcaster, not even Sky) has the rights to the 3pm Saturday kick-offs. Why? Because its a blackout period. Games at that time cant be shown at 3pm to protect gate. Ireland, and RTÉ and Setanta can, because we are a different jurisdiction.

Back to cricket... the other thing that you have to remember is, RTÉ would have to buy the highlights rights for the whole tournament, not just the Ireland games. And that costs a lot of money and outlay. RTÉ would be unable to show the highlights any earlier than the BBC show theirs, due to the time difference between the Caribbean and here.

I'm a cricket supporter, but I understand why RTÉ don't cover it.

limerick_man

Yeah, I would like to see something somewhat substancial from the world cup. I'd like some sort of highlights set up (wouldn't actually watch the entire match)... but would tune in to see 'best bits' (I am a bandwagon jumper).

hot fuss

Revelation Joe wrote:

How can the BBC have the Irish terrestrial rights to broadcast highlights? They are not an Irish company. If RTE wanted to acquire the Irish rights, I'm sure they could have.
The BBC don't have the rights to show the Premiership in Ireland, which is why RTE can show matches on Saturday at 3pm.

The BBC have the terrestrial rights to Irish and UK action in the Cricket World Cup. Unfortunately it's not quite as simple as, 'if RTE wanted to acquire the Irish rights, they could have'. Sky sold ONE highlights package and the BBC bought it - simple as that.

hot fuss

Mossy Monk wrote:

isnt Setanta showing the rugby
along with ITV

Yes. Setanta is showing the world cup, and TV3 will be showing all Irish games.. In fairness at least we'll be able to watch the Irish matches on terrestrial TV and don't have to rely on having cable.

gucci

Revelation Joe wrote:

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A cricket ball hurts. A lot. Especially if you're a fielder with no helmet or pads or a big hurley to hit it away with Why do you think the wicketkeeper has those big gloves?

i understand a cricket ball hurts but so does a sliothar walloped at you!! have had them rifled at me in the past, no claiming bravery here, just not quick enough to get out of the way!!

Revelation Joe

hot fuss wrote:

The BBC have the terrestrial rights to Irish and UK action in the Cricket World Cup. Unfortunately it's not quite as simple as, 'if RTE wanted to acquire the Irish rights, they could have'. Sky sold ONE highlights package and the BBC bought it - simple as that.

I don't know anyhting about European Broadcasting regulations but I'm surprised the EU allows a company from one member state to own the broadcast rights in another member state
Does that mean that the Dutch broadcasters don't have highlights either?

hot fuss

Revelation Joe wrote:

I don't know anyhting about European Broadcasting regulations but I'm surprised the EU allows a company from one member state to own the broadcast rights in another member state
Does that mean that the Dutch broadcasters don't have highlights either?

I don't know a huge amount European Broadcasting regulations either, but according to the official Cricket World Cup website, "Cricket fans in the UK and Ireland can turn on BskyB for live matches and BBC for highlights." As far as I'm aware, Sky had one highlights package for sale in the UK AND Ireland, and the BBC bought it. It seems that the UK and Ireland were deemed one group by the company distributing the rights worldwide.

Rjd2

BBC Radio 4 for those without sky have live coverage of cricket.

DMC

Thats Radio 4 Long Wave, 198 kHz. Ireland's game tomorrow against the West Indies wont be live ball-by-ball coverage, they are broadcasting the Sri Lanka - India crunch tie.

All of Ireland's games in the Super 8's will be broadcast live on Sky Sports and on the radio on Radio 4 LW.

J.R.HARTLEY

hot fuss wrote:

I don't know a huge amount European Broadcasting regulations either, but according to the official Cricket World Cup website, "Cricket fans in the UK and Ireland can turn on BskyB for live matches and BBC for highlights." As far as I'm aware, Sky had one highlights package for sale in the UK AND Ireland, and the BBC bought it. It seems that the UK and Ireland were deemed one group by the company distributing the rights worldwide.

maybe for broadcasting rights were seen as the british isles *ducks and runs*

DMC

For a lot of broadcast rights that Sky Sports gets (Ryder Cup is the most recent example) they do get the UK and Ireland rights. Cricket, and because there was not market for the right here, probably thought the same.